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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2013, 12:45:08 AM »
I'm no lawyer, but these terms may be pertinent:

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I guess it could be argued that "convert, reformat, and encode" gives them the right to add DRM. It's not how I would read it, but I can see how it could be open to interpretation. I'm sending them an email anyway. They are usually pretty good about getting back to you, even if their replies rarely make sense.

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2013, 06:33:51 AM »
I publish to Kobo through Smashwords so I don't have the option to uncheck a box for DRM, though I'm pretty sure Smashwords didn't request the DRM...

If someone figures out what we can do about this please let us all know.

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2013, 07:50:28 AM »
Wow, even my books are there. With DRM, despite having explicitly disabled it at Kobo (and everywhere else, for that matter). Not that I've ever sold anything through Kobo or affiliates, but still, this sucks.

Blog post on the subject. http://www.simon-royle.com/blog/whsmith-breaking-trust-putting-drm-in-ebooks-without-permission-from-the-authors/

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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2013, 08:06:34 AM »

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2013, 09:02:11 AM »
Pretty outrageous, if true.

My only question is, has anyone verified that the DRM is installed, and that it isn't just a listing glitch?

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2013, 09:19:45 AM »
I'm an old, old lurker and just joined.

Here's what Kobo told me about my books:

Thank you for contacting Kobo Writing Life.

There is a known error on the WHSmith website that is showing DRM-Free books as DRM ePubs. They're working on fixing this issue when they update their website in May.

Even though your books appear as DRM ePub's, any customers that want to purchase your book from WHSmith are directed to our site to make the purchase. On our site your book is correctly listed as DRM-Free.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience that this may cause and hope that this has clarified things for you.

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2013, 11:42:24 AM »
I'm an old, old lurker and just joined.

Here's what Kobo told me about my books:

Thank you for contacting Kobo Writing Life.

There is a known error on the WHSmith website that is showing DRM-Free books as DRM ePubs. They're working on fixing this issue when they update their website in May.

Even though your books appear as DRM ePub's, any customers that want to purchase your book from WHSmith are directed to our site to make the purchase. On our site your book is correctly listed as DRM-Free.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience that this may cause and hope that this has clarified things for you.

Sincerely,
The Kobo Team


Hope this helps.

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That does help and it sounds reasonable to me.

I just took a look and my e-books ARE listed as DRM on the WH Smith website - however they ARE listed as DRM-FREE on the Kobo website itself.

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2013, 11:43:45 AM »
I'm an old, old lurker and just joined.
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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2013, 01:42:59 PM »
Thank you Lear, and welcome  :)

I guess we will have to wait till May to find out the truth.
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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2013, 03:04:28 PM »
I was just scanning Sony's site and they have the same tagline as WH Smith. Now I jumped around between fiction and non-fiction and various category's and all the ones I brought up were marked DRM

Didn't proceed past the description, so I do not know if a purchase sends them to a site like kobo who make the claim that they posted above.

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2013, 06:13:06 AM »
Pretty outrageous, if true.

My only question is, has anyone verified that the DRM is installed, and that it isn't just a listing glitch?

THIS!!!! My first reaction is that they have a template that pulls the DRM notice whether the book has it or not.

Has anyone actually BOUGHT their book and checked the downloaded file for DRM?

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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2013, 07:45:55 AM »
The DRM notice has gone.

It appears that it was just a bug - glad it's been fixed; two months ahead of schedule. Kudos to WHSmith and Kobo for reacting fast and fixing the problem. Thank you. Will now proudly boast that my books are for sale on your site.

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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2015, 07:56:34 AM »
Hmm. I've just realised that all ebooks at WH Smith got this daft thing.

 
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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2015, 08:03:47 AM »
This thread is two years old!


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Re: WH Smith putting DRM in books distributed by Kobo
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2015, 08:13:12 AM »
Thanks for mistakenly bringing this thread back to life as it got me to search and I have finally made it onto the WH Smith website for my British English and England set non-fiction, but not my American English novel. Now to add the buy links to my websites.
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2015, 12:40:56 PM »
Thanks Cherise for pointing out the necroposting. I was halfway to a blistering blog post.

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2015, 09:03:39 AM »
Sgroyle: Thanks for the heads up. I go through D2D myself
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