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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2015, 07:57:56 AM »
As writers, don't we owe it to today's children to teach them how to behave towards one another and help them to form normal, loving, sexual relationships?

No, PARENTS owe it to their children to teach them how to behave. I don't write for children. I write for adults.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2015, 07:58:17 AM »
I refuse to write sex scenes. I'm a devoted follower of the dictum 'write what you know'.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2015, 08:00:25 AM »
OK, folks....

A few things.  I actually think that this is a good discussion for the WC (and not the first time it's come up over the years).    Note that Shelagh has posed a question.  Agree or disagree. 

This is a sincere discussion--please leave the popcorn comments out.  Post if you have a contribution to make; otherwise, lots of other threads.

And please, let's post without denigrating men or women.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2015, 08:01:18 AM »
Oh. HELL. No.

And if I say any more than that on this topic I will probably be banned from this forum.

Ok. No. I will not be silent.

This is absolutely grossly offensive. Who are you to dictate what constitutes "normal" sexual behavior? Who are you to sex shame people? It is up to children's PARENTS to speak with and educate their young so that they are not ignorant of the FACTS of sex, but as writers we have NO write to enforce our own personal sexual agenda on the masses.

And what are you talking about with this, "sink to their base instincts" nonsense? Did you SERIOUSLY just SEX SHAME another board member for her positive stance on women's sexual liberation and the perfectly NATURALE act of masturbation? I'm sorry, and you're worried about the possibility of PORN warping children's mind and giving them a twisted view of sex and their bodies?

OMG. Ok, I'm going to peace out. Cool down. And come back when I'm feeling a little more zen.

Someone better lock this thread before I forget how to be polite.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2015, 08:01:32 AM »
Says who? Who gets to decide what behavior is appropriate? Do I get to decide that religion is banned because I find that offensive? And if so, what religions do I get to outlaw from fiction? If I find monogamy unrealistic and offensive, do I get to ban that from you? Who gets to say what activities are okay and which ones aren't? Studies have shown abstinence only programs increase teenage pregnancy and STDs. Does this mean I get to hand condoms out to your kids? How exactly does being the morality police work?

Firstly, banning books is not the solution. Secondly,  people take offense rather than are offended, so writing books that no one found offensive would be nigh impossible. Thirdly, morality police is the last thing I would advocate.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2015, 08:02:16 AM »
Your words sadden me beyond measure. Instead of pulling men up to our high standards, we have to sink to their base instincts.

Seeing masturbation as giving into one's "base instincts" represents a profoundly warped and unhealthy attitude toward sexuality, IMO, one in which the body is viewed as dirty and untouchable, and pleasure for its own sake is not allowed because ... dunno. Because we're bad and don't deserve it, I guess. If this is the mindset that erotica-avoidance generates, bring on the erotica. I never want my daughters to feel this way about their bodies.




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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2015, 08:03:23 AM »
Your words sadden me beyond measure. Instead of pulling men up to our high standards, we have to sink to their base instincts.

Wow, really?

Honestly, if you are handing erotica to your kids as "instruction manuals for a healthy sex life" you have failed all on your own as a parent, no help from us dirty authors at all. Erotica, books with sex of any sort, is intended for adults. When you start telling adults what they are allowed to read and write, you step into some dangerous territory that is guaranteed to come back and bite you on the bum later when it's your preferences that become the target.

How about instead of telling authors what they should and shouldn't write, you write some parenting books to teach adults how to be better at including themselves in their children's lives  to make sure the kids don't get their hands on any mind warping naughty books? If your passion is saving the children, focus on parental education, not author censorship. :)

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2015, 08:03:56 AM »
Re-reading some of the earlier points, I'm not sure a discussion about the specific negative affects of porn (which is very serious) actually has to a lot to do with authors.  Are most children really exposed to porn through books?  Maybe it should be in a forum for filmmakers.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2015, 08:05:54 AM »
Yeaaah. Uh.

Parents have a responsibility to *themselves* to teach their children the standards of behavior (be that morality, beliefs, activities, whatever) they believe are the best fit for the family and the child's well being. Eventually, their child will go onto make their own choices, but it is a parent's duty, not a media creator's, to provide the best options for media consumption.

Authors have a responsibility to *themselves* to write to their own standards of comfort and belief. I, personally, have limits to what I'm comfortable "condoning" in my work, and have a lens that brings certain attitudes to my work. So, I will write to those. No one else in the world is required to follow my lead on my beliefs.

Readers have a responsibility *themselves* to not consume or recommend what upsets or distresses them. They have a responsibility to *themselves* to support authors and creators who they agree with, if they feel that is important.

That's pretty much the end of it. No one has a duty to anyone else in anything they do. End stop.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2015, 08:06:01 AM »
I think a better use of energy would be more articles that explain and teach parents how to monitor, discuss, and handle situations regarding their children and their access to technology. Just like it took time for parents to understand that the TV has many channels and sometimes content really NOT okay for kids at 3PM in the afternoon because it's a syndicated rerun of an adult drama that originally aired at 10PM . . . many parents need help learning about the devices they buy kids but don't take the time to learn to use themselves.

For example, Amazon now has locked devices for children that restrict content to specific categories. Also, you can put a password on a Kindle to restrict purchases. All of this has to be done at the individual family level though because what's right for one family isn't the same for another. My 14-year-old is allowed to read books with swearing in them. Another parent may not want their 14-year-old reading swears. So that's why these tools and tricks are not just universally applied.


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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2015, 08:06:43 AM »
This thread reminds me that I need to call my mother and thank her for always being open and honest about sex and relationships. 
We could also read or watch anything we wanted.   
http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,216185.msg3013849.html#new

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2015, 08:07:51 AM »
Did you SERIOUSLY just SEX SHAME another board member...

Someone better lock this thread before I forget how to be polite.

I can't believe the mods are okay with that.

I am feeling the same way. This is NOT acceptable.

I think I need to go cool off.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2015, 08:08:21 AM »
No.  Authors do not have a duty to protect your child.    You don't like porn fine.   Don't watch or read it.   But do not get all judgemental and try to tell another adult what they should or shouldn't do.

I want to know why you think you have any rights to tell me what I should do with my mind or my body.  You are not paying my bills or supporting me in any fashion so what I do in my home and with my body is none of your business.
If I want to ______ every guy at the party, that is not your business.   
If I want to watch a movie or read a book, it is my choice of book.   Note I am not forcing you to do the same.

So until you are supporting me in every way, you have no right to tell me what to do.

I'm not telling you what to do; I'm bringing to attention the findings of a study about young people and pornography.

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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2015, 08:08:26 AM »
Don't give your child the password to the wifi.   

And hope you don't have neighbors stupid enough to have open networks.  :D


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Re: Authors have a duty of care
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2015, 08:09:22 AM »
OK, folks....

this thread is moving so fast I'm missing stuff.  Locked while I review.

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