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Massive database of book promotion results
« on: December 22, 2015, 10:56:34 AM »
Hello Kboarders,
   Indielisters is helping authors develop a method for their promo-picking madness. Browse the list to find out what works. Then share your numbers to help out your fellow authors.

Let's get our promo results out of the trenches and into the light, and all in one spot!

Gain access here

And when you add your results, let authors know by posting a "reply" in this thread!

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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 11:18:11 AM »
Matt Manochio has released a blog article giving numbers for several ad purchases he did as an experiment:

https://mattmanochio.wordpress.com/2015/04/09/lessons-in-advertising-my-ebook-what-worked-what-didnt/
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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 11:24:02 AM »
thanks for that!

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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2015, 07:23:56 PM »
Welcome to Kboards!

You're welcome to promote your business and website here in the Writers' Caf!

Now that you have an official thread, you'll want to add your listing to our Yellow Pages Listing, found here:
http://www.kboards.com/yp/

The listing is free to KB members and is completely self-service; you can add and edit your listing from the page.  More information on our Yellow Pages listing can be found here.

In your thread here, we ask that the same basic rules be followed as we have for authors in the Book Bazaar:  you may have this one thread about your service and must post to it rather than start a new thread each time.  New threads about the service wil be removed.  Please bookmark this thread so that you can find it again to post to.  And, you may not make back-to-back posts to the thread within seven days.  If someone responds (such as this post), you may reply but otherwise must wait seven days, thanks!

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Note that this welcome does not constitute an endorsement or vetting of a service by KBoards.  Members should do due diligence when considering using a service, for example, by asking KB members for feedback and doing an Internet search such as "service provider name" complaints.
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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2015, 07:33:08 PM »
Interesting idea, Jason, and great link, Joshua!


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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 05:20:19 PM »
Thanks, Joseph! I hope you'll participate! 8)

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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 06:39:57 PM »
I have added numbers from my three most recent promotions for $0.99 books.

I think helping others get an idea of which promotions work in various genres is very important, so thanks for this.

For those interested here, the results I shared were as follows:

1. Robin Reads - $0.99 reduced price promotion for Soul Stealer - Legacy of the Blade. 23 sales. I have given away between 500 and 700 on free promotions with Robin Reads. This was my first promotion for a paid book. Soul Stealer fell in line with predicted results for a fantasy book.

2. Book Barbarian - $0.99 reduced price promotion also for Soul Stealer. 38 sales. I have always been happy with Book Barbarian.

3. BKnights - $0.99 reduced price promotion (basic package mentioning the Kboards discount) for Shadow's Rise - Return of the Cabal. 5 sales. From what I understand, BKnights does better with free promotions. Also, with all the packages offered, there can be a challenge finding what works. Obviously, my paid promotion was not one of the more successful options.

Good luck to everyone on their promotions!


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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2015, 08:48:34 AM »
Joseph,
   Thanks for this awesome data, and thanks for sharing it on IndieListers!  I've already worked on functionality to give you the power of the sort!

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Re: New Tool Shares Actual Book Promotion Results
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2015, 09:35:44 AM »
Sounds like this will be a useful tool for our membership, Jason!

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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2015, 10:18:59 AM »
Thank you, Betsy. I hope it saves authors time, money, and heartache!  ???

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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2015, 07:50:07 AM »
Looks promising. Could be a useful resource if enough people enter data. I added my one paltry promo.
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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2015, 08:01:39 AM »
I think this is an absolutely great idea.

Just one concern, though:
How do you prevent false information from being entered, perhaps by a dishonest promo site, in order to skew the data?
Hopefully it wouldn't happen, but Hope is a poor watchdog.
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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2015, 09:33:31 AM »
In case you missed them, may I suggest reading through a few previous threads here regarding what kind of info to collect would be most beneficial, and what's happened to previous attempts at collecting these stats (as Adrian alludes)...

http://www.kboards.com/index.php?topic=206173.0
http://www.kboards.com/index.php?topic=223864.0
http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,207656.0.html

I'm sure there are many others. These were just the first I remember top-of-head.

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Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2015, 10:30:41 AM »
Asher: thank you! Paltry promo results are exactly what we need!

Adrian: of course, that is a concern. There are a few different methods to combat this if it becomes a problem. I've toyed with the idea of requiring a screen capture of the promo submission or confirmation email. Definitely something to think about.

Phoenix: thank you! Hopefully we can implement some controls to prevent the same kind of thing from happening! I already have some in place! ;)


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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2015, 11:30:58 AM »
And are you addressing any of the concerns raised in the other threads as far as capturing accurate and useful stats?

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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2015, 01:19:01 PM »
Phoenix, I checked out the threads you sent and they had some great things to offer. As far as useful goes, the list will evolve as the author community provides feedback as to what the most useful information is.

The IndieListers is spreadsheet is not manipulated directly. IndieListers add their information by using a password-protected Submission Form.

As far as inaccurate data goes, the biggest threat would be from someone with malicious intent. For this reason, IndieListers uses an Author Verification process to verify the registration email before granting the access to the password-protected Submission Forms.

I've also added a mandatory "Disclosure and Statement of Good Faith."

If IndieList grows big enough, we might be able to detect anomalies in the data that are inconsistent with a particular service's norm.

Every venture requires a little bit of faith and honesty. But I realize we live in a fallen world where virtue is not always the aim.

I'm always open to suggestions to make it the best resource possible! :)


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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2016, 05:53:18 PM »
Authors, 
   The IndieListers community continues to grow, and I'm starting to get some great feedback! So far, people are liking this tool.

I also continue to see gratitude for authors who post their book promotion results in places like these forums.

The point of IndieListers is to make it easier to find this valuable data, and to try to get it all in one place!

So if you've just wrapped up a book promotion, or have one coming up, we'd love to see your results posted on IndieListers!

You can find out more in the link on my signature line :)

P.S. My next FREE promotion is going on January 25th, and so far I have lined up ENT, BookSends, ChoosyBookworm, Digital Books Today, plus more, all strategically chosen by analyzing the data on IndieListers.


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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2016, 11:13:23 AM »
I've seen a lot of activity with book promotions.  I hope you'll consider sharing your results on IndieListers (link in my signature line).

Promo results shouldn't have to be buried in forums. Let's get them all in once place so we all can benefit!


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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2016, 03:51:04 PM »
Hello Kboarders!

   I just wanted to give you an update on IndieListers. We've already hit over 100 subscribers which is totally encouraging!  So far we have Indie authors, hybrid authors, and USA Today bestselling authors browsing the list and sharing results from their book promotions.

We've also had authors with agents and publishers assistants asking to help and share their numbers.

Very cool!

I'm waiting for our first New York Times bestselling author to join.

Is it you?

Anyway, I continue to see good threads about promos here. I'd love for you to help us get them all in one place for everyone to see!

Also, I'm continuing to make improvements and am always open to suggestions.

Hope to see you on board! Check it out in my signature line (IndieListers).


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Re: Share Your Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2016, 12:02:35 PM »
The waiting is over. We now have New York Times Bestselling authors on IndieListers!

I just ran my second free promo for One of the Few on 25-26 Jan.

I used IndieListers data to optimize and plan my promos.

The result was 5,475 downloads, #1 in four Amazon categories, Top 3 in two others, and #41 of all free Kindle ebooks.

This is the highest number of downloads on IndieListers for a promo without a BookBub ;)

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Re: Browse and Share Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2016, 06:42:31 PM »
The number of authors on IndieListers has been growing every single day!

Come check us out.

We want to make sure your next promo is a carefully aimed bullseye--not a shot in the dark!  8)

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Re: Browse and Share Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2016, 04:52:30 PM »
This sounds good and when I get more time a bit later I'm going to join. I have a question in the meantime, is it possible to get a view of which promotion sites work better for specific genres?

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Re: Browse and Share Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2016, 05:33:41 PM »
This sounds good and when I get more time a bit later I'm going to join. I have a question in the meantime, is it possible to get a view of which promotion sites work better for specific genres?

Aderyn,
   That's the kind of question that I hope IndieListers can answer in the future, when we have more data to analyze.

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Re: Browse and Share Book Promotion RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2016, 06:53:05 PM »
If we join and enter our numbers do we get to download an Excel spreadsheet to do analysis upon?


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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2016, 07:37:52 PM »
If we join and enter our numbers do we get to download an Excel spreadsheet to do analysis upon?

SidK,
  I definitely plan on having this as an upgrade option in the future.

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