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Re: Pick effective promos with Indielisters. Browse and share RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2017, 04:40:51 PM »
I don't want to be a jerk, but I understand why you ask indies to subscribe to add their promo results (anti-manipulation), but why are you asking me, who only wants to see the results to subscribe?

Updated to remove the sentence: Are you trying to help writers or harvest emails? as it seems to touched a raw nerve with OP which was not my design. Agree to disagree. Good luck!
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Re: Pick effective promos with Indielisters. Browse and share RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2017, 06:27:43 PM »
I don't want to be a jerk, but I understand why you ask indies to subscribe to add their promo results (anti-manipulation), but why are you asking me, who only wants to see the results to subscribe? Are you trying to help writers or harvest emails?

The purpose of this community is to help authors. As you question my motives, are you trying to help writers or harvest discord? You seem to think helping authors with a valuable service and building an email list are mutually exclusive. Not the case.


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Re: Pick effective promos with Indielisters. Browse and share RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2017, 08:22:42 PM »
Dear Jason, Although I've never done any promos (except "comments section" of the Boston Herald) - I plan doing so after my next book.


Edited. Promotion is not permitted in the Writers' Cafe. - Becca
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 09:30:51 PM by Becca Mills »

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Re: Pick effective promos with Indielisters. Browse and share RESULTS here!!!
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2017, 04:19:52 PM »
Dear Jason, Although I've never done any promos (except "comments section" of the Boston Herald) - I plan doing so after my next book.


Edited. Promotion is not permitted in the Writers' Cafe. - Becca

Thanks Jon! Looks like a very interesting book!
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 09:31:22 PM by Becca Mills »

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #54 on: February 14, 2017, 03:04:28 PM »
Indielisters has a new logo :)

And don't forget to sign up for Monthly Reminders so you can remember to share your latest results.

See the Indielisters link in my signature.

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2017, 09:59:31 AM »
New results in for AskDavid, Buck Books, and The eReader Cafe!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2017, 06:10:55 PM »
Any ad numbers for Facebook ad results?


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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2017, 08:45:24 AM »
Any ad numbers for Facebook ad results?

I've added "Facebook Ads" as an options on the Submission Form.

Great suggestions! Keep 'em comin'!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2017, 01:47:34 PM »
I was juuusssst about to finish my bout of Kboards procrastination and get back to writing when I spotted this thread.  I'm new here so I hadn't spotted it before.  I just did a 99 cent promo and posted a hefty breakdown of my experiences.  Rather than clutter this thread, you can find it here: https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,248041.0.html

I'll definitely check out your site.  Two questions:  Do you make note of whether an ad is on "Day One" of a promo ad campaign?  Since many subscribers belong to multiple lists there must be diminishing returns for promo sites scheduled later... and yet if THEY had been the day one choice, they might have outperformed the one an author chose.  I'd LOVE to see some data of how different sites performed on Day One only.

Question two: do you take genres into effect?  Forgive me for not dashing over there right now and answering these myself but I've GOT to get back to work.  Thanks!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2017, 02:28:11 PM »
Need a sorting feature.. also people listing 5 sites doesen't help much unless they specifically state which worked best -  its a good start and I suggest working on the input fields descriptions to get the best/most helpful data possible.

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2017, 03:10:42 PM »
I was juuusssst about to finish my bout of Kboards procrastination and get back to writing when I spotted this thread.  I'm new here so I hadn't spotted it before.  I just did a 99 cent promo and posted a hefty breakdown of my experiences.  Rather than clutter this thread, you can find it here: https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,248041.0.html

I'll definitely check out your site.  Two questions:  Do you make note of whether an ad is on "Day One" of a promo ad campaign?  Since many subscribers belong to multiple lists there must be diminishing returns for promo sites scheduled later... and yet if THEY had been the day one choice, they might have outperformed the one an author chose.  I'd LOVE to see some data of how different sites performed on Day One only.

Question two: do you take genres into effect?  Forgive me for not dashing over there right now and answering these myself but I've GOT to get back to work.  Thanks!

Nick Sullivan
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Nick,

There is a place for leaving comments. This is where you could add some explanation (e.g. "ServiceX on day one, 250 downloads from that day alone").

And yes, there is place to list the genre of your book as well as a lot of other data to help get a feel for the overall situation.

Great questions!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2017, 09:30:45 AM »
Need a sorting feature.. also people listing 5 sites doesen't help much unless they specifically state which worked best -  its a good start and I suggest working on the input fields descriptions to get the best/most helpful data possible.

Great feedback! Taken on board. Regarding which sites worked the best, for now, that's something authors can make a note of in the comments field.

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2017, 09:01:06 AM »
Mega-list updated with several new promotion sites added :)

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2017, 03:59:43 PM »
I'd love to add a sorting feature to Indielisters.

The challenge is making it sortable for everyone in real time, without changing/deleting the data.

Calling all techies! If you want to help me with a solution, hit me up! :)

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2017, 10:40:28 AM »
Still looking for help to figure out how to make the list sortable for everyone :)

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2017, 04:54:29 PM »
Still looking for help to figure out how to make the list sortable for everyone :)

I'm not a subscriber, but from the screen shots, it looks like its powered by Google Sheets, not any kind of database, and the sheet is embedded in a web page?

If I have that correct, Google Sheets can't be sortable natively when embedded (some weirdo idea Google came up with), but you might be able to do it using the Awesome Table gadget: https://sites.google.com/site/scriptsexamples/available-web-apps/awesome-tables

Hope that helps some :)

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2017, 09:33:52 AM »
I'm not a subscriber, but from the screen shots, it looks like its powered by Google Sheets, not any kind of database, and the sheet is embedded in a web page?

If I have that correct, Google Sheets can't be sortable natively when embedded (some weirdo idea Google came up with), but you might be able to do it using the Awesome Table gadget: https://sites.google.com/site/scriptsexamples/available-web-apps/awesome-tables

Hope that helps some :)

thank you for this. I'll be checking it out!  Do you have experience with this program?

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2017, 01:29:52 PM »
No, but since its recommended by Google, figured it was a good one :-) 

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« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2017, 12:25:17 PM »
No, but since its recommended by Google, figured it was a good one :-)

I've checked it out. It has potential. I'd have to do some restructuring.

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2017, 11:50:34 AM »
New listing for AMS and Bargain Booksy. Check it out!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #70 on: April 08, 2017, 10:55:22 AM »
New entry for AwesomeGang. Doing audiobook promotions? You can list them here, too. I have AudiobookBoom.com on there as an option.

I don't know all the audiobook promotions sites, so if you know of any, please reply and then I can add them to the list!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2017, 11:03:59 AM »
New BookBub results posted today. Thanks for the entry!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2017, 09:30:05 AM »
more and more authors are using Indielisters to help schedule their promotions. So glad they're finally finding it!

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2017, 12:11:47 PM »
Need a sorting feature.. also people listing 5 sites doesen't help much unless they specifically state which worked best -  its a good start and I suggest working on the input fields descriptions to get the best/most helpful data possible.
Totally agree with this. Trying to figure out the value of one site is almost impossible when it's grouped with fifteen others. I also agree with others here that a sorting feature would be helpful.

Having said that, this is an awesome resource. Not only does it help me when figuring out where to promote, it also makes me more willing to take risks on unfamiliar sites, because I can easily share the info I collect with other authors. The value of spending $30 on an unknown site to find out whether it's any good is low; the value of spending that $30 so LOTS of people can know whether there's good ROI is pretty high to me.

I'll add my recent promos to this list when I get the password.

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Re: Massive database of book promotion results
« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2017, 01:21:15 PM »
Totally agree with this. Trying to figure out the value of one site is almost impossible when it's grouped with fifteen others. I also agree with others here that a sorting feature would be helpful.

Having said that, this is an awesome resource. Not only does it help me when figuring out where to promote, it also makes me more willing to take risks on unfamiliar sites, because I can easily share the info I collect with other authors. The value of spending $30 on an unknown site to find out whether it's any good is low; the value of spending that $30 so LOTS of people can know whether there's good ROI is pretty high to me.

I'll add my recent promos to this list when I get the password.

thanks Emma! The sort feature is something I've wanted for a while. For now, authors can use the "Comments" portion of the entry to describe which site had the best results. For example, they can do this if they're tracking clicks with separate Bitly links per promotion.

Kboarders, what are some other ways to trac your promotion stats when you have a stack on a single day?