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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1925 on: May 01, 2017, 06:53:02 AM »
It's interesting how perspectives differ. I would have said it was a sci-fi novel with strong historical elements. :P

Yes, I did finally get around to reading it, and I thought it was great! I'll be posting a review as soon as I finish my current project, which is nearly done.

Excellent! I'm glad you liked it. The meshing of historical fiction and science fiction will be alive and well in the sequel, War of the Worlds: Firestorm.

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1926 on: May 01, 2017, 07:54:22 AM »
Report on yesterday's promo (Book Gorilla and Book Barbarian for Different Lee: 42 sales, all US. The book was over 97,000 in the Kindle store in the early morning, something like 5,800 24 hours later.

At a $0.99 promo price, I'm not making back what I spent, but in terms of exposure, I'm happy with the results.

Thanks for sharing the info. Most people are saying promo results lately have been a little softer than usual. In any case, it's good to stir things up a bit and generate more visibility for our books. I just finished my Shadowglade launch period and priced Beyond the Forest back to its normal price a few minutes ago. I'll report my results in a separate post, and you and others can tell me if I should have tried a different strategy.

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1927 on: May 01, 2017, 08:18:50 AM »
As I mentioned in a previous post, I decided to launch Shadowglade at full price and discount book one, Beyond the Forest, hoping to get readers started in the series.

Question: Is it easier to "get sticky" with a new release than with an older title? Does Amazon's algorithms favor "hot new release" data? If so, maybe I should have tried to get the lowest possible sales rank for Shadowglade rather than BtF, but I've never had any luck getting sticky so far, so I don't know if it would have mattered. 

Shadowglade launched on the 19th, and I priced it at $3.99, and reduced BtF to $0.99. I had planned to run my main promos through the weekend, and then have a dribble of smaller promos into the following weekend, hoping to keep my sales rank from cratering too quickly. Unfortunately, I didn't do as well as I did in my February promos. In February, I had tripped the algorithms and gotten a boost from Amazon, which gave me a day with 78 sales and a sales rank under 2500. This time, my biggest day was 54 sales, and I stalled out at a sales rank of 3883, although I did get down to 1283 in Canada, and was in the top 100 within my categories in all the English speaking markets. Disappointed with these results, I added more smaller tier promos and made a second push into last weekend (ended yesterday), and I temporarily lowered my rank, which had started to drift higher, but I was wasting money, since so many people had already seen my book in the prior newsletters that I didn't get a lot of sales. Lesson learned.

Final results from the 19th - 30th. Only 207 eBook sales of Beyond the Forest, far fewer than February, but set new records in KENP = 12,547.
eBook sales of Shadowglade came in at 29 sales. Lowest sales rank 36,174.  KENP starting to trickle in = 1104.
15 paperback sales between both books.

I plan to run a Kindle Countdown deal in mid-June, with both books at $0.99 for a week.


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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1928 on: May 01, 2017, 08:34:11 AM »
(Clean Romance) What Lies Beneath the Mask - Laura Greenwood - In Kindle Unlimited - (Has 12 Reviews)

I posted a review for Laura's book: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R38ZUYDOOJ1ZSH/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01N778J7W

Since Time Burrito is already at 19 reviews, I'm going to put Atmospheric Pressure on the list

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1929 on: May 01, 2017, 11:55:46 AM »
Sorry I've been quiet! Had a hectic month! But I did promise that I'd cross post my experiences with doing a double release (both books were PNR). This also appears in a post in the FB group, along with a screenshot of my rough ROI (works out about 31% but may go up slightly in the next few days): https://www.facebook.com/groups/873131669496666/permalink/946638448812654/



Report on the double release! Apologies for a long post!
Before I start, let it be known that I'm not happy with my ROI. But this was a useful experience.
Firstly, there's a couple more days where I'll likely see a tail from promos as the last one went out today.
A note on what I'm tracking: I've been tracking sales of my three Paranormal Council books (The Dryad's Pawprint, The Vixen's Bark & The Necromancer's Prey) and the spin-off, Spellbound. I've also tracked pre-orders of book 4 of the Paranormal Council series (The Vampire's Bite) but these HAVE NOT been assigned a monetary value on my spreadsheet.
How costs are worked out: Listed on the left is the promos I booked (in dollars). Underneath them is the conversion into GBP (my home currency). Sales are recording in GBP.
Sale = 0.27p per unit
KENP = 0.0045 per page
Pre-orders gained BEFORE the promos started on the 19th April, haven't been counted in the totals (though they are viewable on the spreadsheet (on the right you can see pre-order numbers).
There were a few hiccups along the way, including me forgetting when I'd booked a promo, Necromancer's 2nd & 3rd reviews being not so great (thankfully, reviews 1 and 4 through 22 have all been much better!), and a mess up with Spellbound's pre-order meaning that the wrong file was sent out. Somehow I managed to escape the pre-order mess up unscathed, no one stars and no returns...so God knows what I did to get so lucky! Oh and amazon took over a week to link book 4 to the rest of the series, so I think I missed out on a few pre-orders because of it.
What didn't work:
ReadCheaply - Heard GREAT things about this one...didn't do much at all.
The Fussy Librarian - Same as Readcheaply really. It was very disappointing.
What kind of worked:
Genre Pulse- not the worst performance of them all, but I'm not rushing to book again
Genre CRAVE book fair - these have worked great for me in the past, but not quite so well this time.
Shifted Sheets Promotions/Uncarved - these are the same people. I think some of the effectiveness was lost because I'd had the ARC team builder run a few days before. But I'll happily use them again.
What REALLY worked:
Romancing the Dragon Newsletter Service Series Promo - I'm really impressed with this one. It sold copies of Vixen and Necromancer, and as of earlier, I've also seen the sales figures for that day of the Box Set containing book 1. Safe to say, should they put the sale on this again, I'll be jumping at the chance. It was definitely worth the $25 it cost me (I'd be a little more hesitant at $50)
Additional Notes:
I used the Shifted Sheets Promotions ARC Team builder during this. There is another thread about my experiences with them, but to say I'm pleased with the results is a massive understatement!
I'm not happy with the ROI I've got from this, but I've learnt some useful stuff, and it's influenced my future plans for release.
Pretty sure that's everything!
OH if you're considering doing a double release: DON'T! It's hell!

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1930 on: May 01, 2017, 12:12:32 PM »

Question: Is it easier to "get sticky" with a new release than with an older title? Does Amazon's algorithms favor "hot new release" data? If so, maybe I should have tried to get the lowest possible sales rank for Shadowglade rather than BtF, but I've never had any luck getting sticky so far, so I don't know if it would have mattered. 

I don't know this answer, but I understand it takes a good 250 sales your first week to get sticky.

Also, all the extra sales may lead to sales of Shadowglade down the road. It's to hard to tell.

After my "free" day with Love, Lies & Clones, I've sold a little more than a book a day priced at $3.99 since then. I'm going to start playing more with free strategy than countdown deals. We'll see what happens. (Though, I am trying another strategy for Blood & Holy Water and doing a countdown at the end of June. Less promo, spaced closer together.)

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Cool. I'm adding you to the list.

Sorry I've been quiet! Had a hectic month! But I did promise that I'd cross post my experiences with doing a double release (both books were PNR). This also appears in a post in the FB group, along with a screenshot of my rough ROI (works out about 31% but may go up slightly in the next few days): https://www.facebook.com/groups/873131669496666/permalink/946638448812654/


Laura - this is great stuff! Yeah, ROI sucks...I haven't found the secret either. My ROI tends to be about 50% and I don't add in any small sites anymore, lots of work to add and not enough sales to make the effort worth it. I look at it like a learning experience. We'll figure it out sometime!

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1931 on: May 01, 2017, 12:14:31 PM »
** Kindle Scout Survivor Books in Need of Reviews **

Remember, to get on the list, you need to have reviewed a book on the list (pick whichever one interests you & contact the author for a digital copy or read in Kindle Unlimited.) Once you hit 20 reviews, you'll fall off the list. (Or sooner, if you like.) Let me know if I missed anyone. (Also, I'm throwing in a reminder that we have a private Facebook group you can join here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/873131669496666/permalink/904011373075362/)

Please keep reading. The more you review, the more this system will work.

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I don't know this answer, but I understand it takes a good 250 sales your first week to get sticky.

Also, all the extra sales may lead to sales of Shadowglade down the road. It's to hard to tell.

After my "free" day with Love, Lies & Clones, I've sold a little more than a book a day priced at $3.99 since then. I'm going to start playing more with free strategy than countdown deals. We'll see what happens. (Though, I am trying another strategy for Blood & Holy Water and doing a countdown at the end of June. Less promo, spaced closer together.)

Cool. I'm adding you to the list.

Laura - this is great stuff! Yeah, ROI sucks...I haven't found the secret either. My ROI tends to be about 50% and I don't add in any small sites anymore, lots of work to add and not enough sales to make the effort worth it. I look at it like a learning experience. We'll figure it out sometime!
Exactly! We'll figure it out at some point! And because in this I haven't included preorders in my ROI, it's not as bad as it looks! I've learnt plenty so not too much of a waste!

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1933 on: May 01, 2017, 12:31:57 PM »
I don't know this answer, but I understand it takes a good 250 sales your first week to get sticky.

Also, all the extra sales may lead to sales of Shadowglade down the road. It's to hard to tell.

After my "free" day with Love, Lies & Clones, I've sold a little more than a book a day priced at $3.99 since then. I'm going to start playing more with free strategy than countdown deals. We'll see what happens. (Though, I am trying another strategy for Blood & Holy Water and doing a countdown at the end of June. Less promo, spaced closer together.)


Interesting data about the 250/wk to get sticky. My February promo saw 230/wk, and my sales rank tanked immediately after it ended. I had decent KENP follow-through, but sales, not so much.

My theory was, as you suggest, that current sales of BtF will lead to future sales (and KU borrows) of SG. We'll see!

I've heard really disparate opinions on the free days. It's great to have folks report how their promos went, since we may not get the same results, but at least we can make an informed choice based on the data. I'll be looking forward to hearing your strategy for Blood & Holy Water.

My next promo attempt will be a countdown deal in mid June. This time, I'll be discounting BOTH books, advertising both a couple places, and only SG in the rest. Some sites only book 30 days out, and we're leaving for a couple weeks vacation which will mess up my ability to apply right at the 30-day mark. Other places book farther out, and are ALREADY booked up! Yikes! So, I'll be using your strategy of less promos but timed closer together, since I don't have a choice.

Promos are addictive. I shudder at the cost, but it's sort of like going to the casino, lol! You figure you're going to lose most of your money, but you're having fun while you do it. (And I'm not even a gambler). It's a rush watching the sales activity when things are going well. Of course, when thing's aren't going well, it's like being on a losing streak on the slot machines.

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Exactly! We'll figure it out at some point! And because in this I haven't included preorders in my ROI, it's not as bad as it looks! I've learnt plenty so not too much of a waste!

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Good point, Laura. We have to keep in mind that every reader we gain now is a future reader of our next release, and hopefully our entire series.

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1935 on: May 01, 2017, 12:43:57 PM »
Here are my two blog posts on my launch strategy for Blood & Holy Water and my analysis of how it went. Still not perfect...but 1000 times better than Love, Lies & Clones.

My detailed plan: https://joynellschultz.com/2017/04/02/planning-the-perfect-book-launch/

What I learned/results: https://joynellschultz.com/2017/04/28/book-launch-results/

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Good point, Laura. We have to keep in mind that every reader we gain now is a future reader of our next release, and hopefully our entire series.
Exactly! I have 27 preorder of the Vampire's Bite which has been up on amazon for 12 days or so. No promo except linking it to the other books on amazon (which took twice as long as normal so has only been linked for 6 or so of them) and in the back matter of book 3. So I've gained more than the ROI suggests!

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1937 on: May 01, 2017, 02:31:36 PM »
Update for you:

As I posted earlier I had an amazing free promo with Time Burrito and made a costly mistake this week!

Here's the Final month stats for April
Amazon.com
35 Sales
10436 KU (which is amazing because my book is only 270 for a read through)
+a dozen sales of other books that have not sold in a while, hard to say if the promo helped
2000 KU of other books (hard to say if linked to Time Burrito)

amazon.co.uk
1 sale (CEL-LA-BRATE GOODTIMES COME ON!)
No KU

Other iterations of Amazon:
A nothing party!

Mistakes I made: I set up an AMS AD, to try and jog sales a bit, and picked "use as fast as possible" and also a $1 per click and then forgot about the add. One day later, I made 3 sales and spent all $100, so very bad ROI, and because I forgot to check on it, I could have paused it and reconfigured when I saw the sales not flooding in. However, I have another AMS ad, with a limit of $3' a day. However, AMS isn't really making good return, as that one only sold 4 copies so far and has cost roughly $30,

I have a People Reads for 5/16 for a new release (I got it free because I bought a month long one for June).

I submitted to RobinReads and they have once again rejected Time Burrito. I'm going to wait until closer to June to submit to BookBub and ENT.

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« Reply #1938 on: May 01, 2017, 02:56:36 PM »
However, AMS isn't really making good return, as that one only sold 4 copies so far and has cost roughly $30,

I submitted to RobinReads and they have once again rejected Time Burrito. I'm going to wait until closer to June to submit to BookBub and ENT.

I have my click bid for AMS set to between 8 cents and 12 cents. I'm spending virtually nothing and it does produce sales ever few days. Maybe your click bid is too high?

Oh, I was rejected for RobinReads more than once. Did you do the Premium Featured Slot? If so, submit the genre specific one instead. I kept forgetting I didi the featured slot and they only pick a few select few. I turned around the next day and submitted to the genre specific one and was accepted. (Even though it says to wait a week.)

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1939 on: May 01, 2017, 08:25:17 PM »
Hello All,

What a great topic...took me ages to read it all, but well worth the effort.

I'm not sure this will help, but I thought I'd share this with you.

I have four books on Amazon, iBooks, Barnes and Noble etc etc...all four books were through
a legit publisher and have been online for quite a few years...up to 10 years, I think.

One of them, at the suggestion of my publisher, is free: Bar Girl. It has been downloaded thousands of times
in the UK and US. The UK site reviews are much better than the US, although the US reviews aren't that bad!

The launch of the free book, which at one time was No1 in the UK 'Freebies' DID help sales of the other three books.
But not by much.
Readers who search for free books are unlikely to then spend money on the next one. Even in a series. The very fact that they
are looking for a freebie in the first place, kind of knocks them out of the ball park as far as we authors are concerned.
What we want is sales! And money! Enough to give us the freedom to do what we want to do....write. (Or sit by a pool.)

I am now in the process of writing a series of adventure books. I started in February this year. It's a series I have been working on in my head
for many years. Making money was more important, however, and I didn't get around to it until now. (The money situation changed :))

I believe that my publisher would accept the books without hesitation. He's really not that fussy. Quantity over quality. But I'm going it alone for a while.
Several reasons:
I don't think my publisher is doing anything I can't do for myself. (Some publishers can do a LOT more, but not mine).
It's exciting.
It's fun. (I'm a bit weird that way.)
And, if it works, it will make me more money.

My (limited) strategy:
Put book one on Kindle Scout. Don't do anything. See what happens. You're right...it absolutely bombed :)
Never mind. It's online and a few hundred people looked at it. Goal one achieved.

While it was there, I finished book 2 and got it ready for publishing on KS.
Book 1 campaign finished. Load it on to Amazon KDP as an ebook and paperback. Easy to do, but takes a few hours.
Upload book 2 to KS. Use a little of what I learned from the first campaign.
Sign up to a few forums and tell my friends on Facebook. (This forum is by far the best one out there BTY)
Don't spend too much time pushing the book. Concentrate on writing.
Half way through the campaign and I'm almost treble the total number of views the first book received.
That's almost a thousand views! Without doing much at all. Yipee! And a few more !!!
And without spending ANY money. Not even on the cover! (Which in hindsight I should have :))

While book 2 is up, finish and edit book 3. When book 2 campaign ends, get it on KDP and upload book 3 to KS.

It seems to me that KS is free advertising. If any of the books are selected, then great, that's a bonus. But
even if they're not....it's a free advertising platform and you learn a lot!

When I started I had no idea people actually 'Paid for Clicks' - how naive of me - or that views and nominations meant nothing
as regards being chosen.

Is it good to be chosen? I think it's probably not that good if you are writing a series. I'm sort of 
half and half at the moment...great to be chosen, but concerned about future copyright issues if I want to sell the whole series.
That's really why I don't try that hard to get views and nominations. Do I really want to be selected? Hmmm...not sure.
If I was writing a standalone book, then sure, I'd love it! But maybe not for a series.

I don't think I need to worry about the above too much because I very much doubt any of my books will be selected.
And I'm not just saying that to get the sympathy vote. I honestly don't think they are the sort of books
Kindle is looking for.

Anyway, in 12 days my second campaign will end. Book 2 will go on KDP and book 3 will go on KS. Book 4 is in progress.
BTY, did you know you can 'Save as Draft' on KDP? I've already done that for Book 2 and Book 3. When I'm ready, I click publish.
That's it. Pretty easy. Yes, of course you knew. Sorry. I get a bit carried away.

I spend as little time as possible on my KS campaigns and look upon them as a free billboard on the side of a road.
A few hundred people looked at it? Wow! Great!

Strange thing, but I've noticed that since I got back in the saddle, my old books have started to sell again.
Not a lot, but a few. Nice. Shame I only get 10%...bloodsucking publishers!

Anyway, enough already! I have to get back to writing.

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1940 on: May 02, 2017, 08:16:39 AM »
DT,

Kindle Scout is great advertising!  I'm also torn as to whether to enter my second book in the series.  The first one was not chosen, but I received so many sales, KU pages and free downloads from entering...I'm tempted to enter book 2, but what if they chose it?  Odds are very low, but still.  Then, I lose all control over the entire series.

I think I'll wait until fall and submit a stand alone book.  More free publicity!  I didn't spend any money on my campaign and had no idea others did until I submitted my book.  Once I got past looking at the $1,500 payoff and started thinking about the free advertising, I realized it's a great opportunity.  :)

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1941 on: May 02, 2017, 10:04:48 AM »
D'oh! My KS book was just rejected. Now, I am sad...  But! I will self-publish ... and I'm looking for opinions.

My Kindle Scout book was the first book in a new trilogy I am writing. Obviously, it is written, but I have some edits I want to do to it before I publish. I think I could get that done in a week or so. But, I'll be on vacation starting on Monday until May 20th. D'oh!

I have book #2 in the trilogy written, but it is a ways from being ready to publish. It's just the first draft, which needs a few rewrites done, and a few rounds of editing. Unfortunately, I cannot get to it until I'm back from vacation. At that point, I can dedicate more time to it.

The final book in the trilogy is outlined but needs to be written and edited.

My plan all along was to publish these books as close to one another as possible. At first, I was thinking about every 30 to 60 days. Then Life happened, as it seems to always do. Now with a big family vacation that snuck up on us, a realistic schedule is really out the window. D'oh!

So, now I am contemplated with an actionable plan for publication. I obviously want to capitalize on the Amazon email that they'll send out when I do publish my book. I want to have the email go out as close to the actual campaign as possible before readers begin to forget that the book was recently rejected. At the same time, I still want to keep subsequent publications as close as possible, but they still need work.

Should I publish book one as soon as possible and have a longer span (probably about 90 days) before book #2 is ready ... or do I hold off on publishing the scout book until book #2 is closer? Thanks, everyone!
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« Reply #1942 on: May 02, 2017, 10:17:17 AM »
Paul,

Sorry your book wasn't chosen, but I still look forward to reading it.

As for publishing schedule, all I can tell you is what I plan to do.  I won't put out my second book in the series for at least 90 days, so I can have the first one free (again) on KU.  Then, another 90 days for the third one.  I like Kindle Unlimited, so I try to work within that structure.  And I haven't finished the other books yet, so not a difficult decision to wait. :)

For me, it made sense to release my KS book right away.  I wanted to take advantage of that free publicity before people forgot about my book.  There are so many new books going into KS every week, I wanted to get mine out there as quickly as possible.

Best of luck with your series, whatever you decide to do!  And when you do release, you might want to talk to Joy about having it added to the list of KS books interested in reviews.
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« Reply #1943 on: May 02, 2017, 12:10:15 PM »

Readers who search for free books are unlikely to then spend money on the next one. Even in a series. The very fact that they
are looking for a freebie in the first place, kind of knocks them out of the ball park as far as we authors are concerned.
What we want is sales! And money! Enough to give us the freedom to do what we want to do....write. (Or sit by a pool.)

I think there's some truth in that. Some readers may go on to buy more of the series, but others will simply go on to the next free book.


It seems to me that KS is free advertising. If any of the books are selected, then great, that's a bonus. But
even if they're not....it's a free advertising platform and you learn a lot!

When I started I had no idea people actually 'Paid for Clicks' - how naive of me - or that views and nominations meant nothing
as regards being chosen.

Is it good to be chosen? I think it's probably not that good if you are writing a series. I'm sort of 
half and half at the moment...great to be chosen, but concerned about future copyright issues if I want to sell the whole series.

BTY, did you know you can 'Save as Draft' on KDP? I've already done that for Book 2 and Book 3. When I'm ready, I click publish.
That's it. Pretty easy. Yes, of course you knew. Sorry. I get a bit carried away.

I have the same opinion about series. It may be a blessing that KS didn't select my first book. Unless they took all the books in the series, my marketing efforts would be hampered. From what I've seen, if a book has the potential to be a hot seller, you'll do very well on your own, but even better with Amazon Press behind you. If a book is good, but not profoundly better than the competition, the author is probably better off marketing it himself. Amazon Press will not put a lot of effort into  promotion, and the author isn't free to run discounts and promos whenever he likes.

Yes, the save a draft feature on KDP is very helpful. It's nice to have everything ready to go while mulling over categories and keywords. Then, when you're ready, you just press the button. 

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« Reply #1944 on: May 02, 2017, 12:20:11 PM »

My Kindle Scout book was the first book in a new trilogy I am writing. I have some edits I want to do to it before I publish. I think I could get that done in a week or so. I have book #2 in the trilogy written, but it is a ways from being ready to publish. It's just the first draft, which needs a few rewrites done, and a few rounds of editing. The final book in the trilogy is outlined but needs to be written and edited.

My plan all along was to publish these books as close to one another as possible. At first, I was thinking about every 30 to 60 days. Then Life happened, as it seems to always do.

So, now I am contemplated with an actionable plan for publication. I obviously want to capitalize on the Amazon email that they'll send out when I do publish my book. I want to have the email go out as close to the actual campaign as possible before readers begin to forget that the book was recently rejected. At the same time, I still want to keep subsequent publications as close as possible, but they still need work.

Should I publish book one as soon as possible and have a longer span (probably about 90 days) before book #2 is ready ... or do I hold off on publishing the scout book until book #2 is closer? Thanks, everyone!

It's good to get the KS book out as quickly as possible before people forget about the book, but only if you can do so without rushing it to publication and putting out an inferior product. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. I wouldn't worry too much about not publishing book one and two close together. Do what works best for you. Don't let the process become so stressful that it's no fun to be an author.   

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1945 on: May 02, 2017, 01:57:44 PM »
Anyone know of anybody who does a good job formatting a novel for submission on CreateSpace?  I've lost patience with the process because I can't get the final line on each adjoing page to line up right.  Some pages have a line that is below the line on the adjoing page.  Looks dumb and I don't know how to fix it, so, I'm in need of a decent formatter at a fair price.
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« Reply #1946 on: May 02, 2017, 02:00:37 PM »
Anyone know of anybody who does a good job formatting a novel for submission on CreateSpace?  I've lost patience with the process because I can't get the final line on each adjoing page to line up right.  Some pages have a line that is below the line on the adjoing page.  Looks dumb and I don't know how to fix it, so, I'm in need of a decent formatter at a fair price.
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Mark Gardner who hangs out on this thread just did mine. I'm not sure he has the time right now, but maybe he'll see this post and respond.

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1947 on: May 02, 2017, 02:04:25 PM »
Anyone know of anybody who does a good job formatting a novel for submission on CreateSpace?  I've lost patience with the process because I can't get the final line on each adjoing page to line up right.  Some pages have a line that is below the line on the adjoing page.  Looks dumb and I don't know how to fix it, so, I'm in need of a decent formatter at a fair price.
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I've used Therin for editing and noticed other services such as formatting. I highly recommend:

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1948 on: May 02, 2017, 02:15:20 PM »
I have my click bid for AMS set to between 8 cents and 12 cents. I'm spending virtually nothing and it does produce sales ever few days. Maybe your click bid is too high?

Oh, I was rejected for RobinReads more than once. Did you do the Premium Featured Slot? If so, submit the genre specific one instead. I kept forgetting I didi the featured slot and they only pick a few select few. I turned around the next day and submitted to the genre specific one and was accepted. (Even though it says to wait a week.)

I've done genre slots for Robin Reads. I've been able to get four other books through them, but for some reason, this one isn't to their taste. I'll try again after a few more reviews.

As far as the ads, I used to do low bid, but I'd never get the ad displayed. The book seems to be doing well enough without the ad for the time being. I think I'm going to let it ride a couple days at a low bid. I also am going to try a couple places that advertise 2.99 books. My hope is to keep a decent amount of sales in May so I can do a 99 sale in June.

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Re: The "My Book Wasn't Accepted for Kindle Scout, Now What?" Thread
« Reply #1949 on: May 02, 2017, 02:49:11 PM »
Mark Gardner who hangs out on this thread just did mine. I'm not sure he has the time right now, but maybe he'll see this post and respond.
After Wednesday, I think that I'll have time.