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I was so busy with tax season a.k.a. the saga of St Mary's
« on: April 14, 2017, 05:49:22 AM »
that I didn't notice that the latest St Mary's book is out:




This is such a fun series -- and at a reasonable price. If you need to start at the beginning, here's the first book:




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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2017, 06:07:56 AM »
It just released yesterday, so you weren't off by far!  I was coming to post this morning and just knew that's what this thread title was referring to.

I have to admit I am glad this one is a full novel.  Saint Mary's is pretty much the only series in which I buy the "shorts" as well, but I personally was disappointed with the last one, "My Name is Markham".  I have a cozy to finish then And The Rest Is History will move to the top of the TBR pile.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2017, 06:19:18 AM »
There's also another book due out in June that's labelled 'book 9', but in fact it's a compilation of the short stories previously published, plus one new one.

I personally don't think it's very fair to make the real fans of the series - who are most likely to already have all the shorts - pay full book price for one new short. I think maybe I'll be waiting for that one to come down in price or be on special offer before I get it, which is disappointing.

I'm reading book 8 now and I was rather worried by the title that it was going to be the last in the series, but I guess I'll have to wait till I've finished it to find out.  :o
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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 06:32:34 AM »
It just released yesterday, so you weren't off by far!  I was coming to post this morning and just knew that's what this thread title was referring to.


I had it on the radar as sometime about now but had forgotten until I got the email from Amazon -- turns out I'd pre-ordered it. ::)

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I have to admit I am glad this one is a full novel.  Saint Mary's is pretty much the only series in which I buy the "shorts" as well, but I personally was disappointed with the last one, "My Name is Markham".  I have a cozy to finish then And The Rest Is History will move to the top of the TBR pile.


Yeah . . . that wasn't my favorite either.

I do feel -- thinking back -- that, in retrospect, the first couple were a bit uneven. Especially the ones that used alternate realities.  But I feel like it's on an even keel now and they are improving -- the full novels that is. The shorts are fun but, as you say, short! :o

There's also another book due out in June that's labelled 'book 9', but in fact it's a compilation of the short stories previously published, plus one new one.

I personally don't think it's very fair to make the real fans of the series - who are most likely to already have all the shorts - pay full book price for one new short. I think maybe I'll be waiting for that one to come down in price or be on special offer before I get it, which is disappointing.


Hmmm.  That is pretty low. :(  I doubt I'll pay full price for just one new story either. Maybe they'll offer it quite cheap and/or have it on special.

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I'm reading book 8 now and I was rather worried by the title that it was going to be the last in the series, but I guess I'll have to wait till I've finished it to find out.  :o


I had the same thought about the title -- hope this doesn't mean it's the last one. Don't tell us! :D

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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 12:50:01 PM »
I really liked the first, but the end was too dark for me (yeah, I know.  Wimp.)  There were actually a couple of dark places mixed into that novel, but it is so well written.  The imagination and characterization were really great. 

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I'm not sure what to expect with this series, but I have to give it a shot.


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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2017, 03:09:25 PM »
I'm not sure what to expect with this series, but I have to give it a shot.

Even those of us who have been reading it don't know what to expect! :o ;) :D


BTW . . . I started it today -- but I think I'm going to have to contact Amazon and/or return it. There are no paragraph indents! Basically makes it unreadable . . . . no one else has mentioned it so I assume it's just my problem. ::)  This is on my Voyage but it was the same on my kindle app on my android phone. :(

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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 03:30:17 PM »
Even those of us who have been reading it don't know what to expect! :o ;) :D


BTW . . . I started it today -- but I think I'm going to have to contact Amazon and/or return it. There are no paragraph indents! Basically makes it unreadable . . . . no one else has mentioned it so I assume it's just my problem. ::)  This is on my Voyage but it was the same on my kindle app on my android one. :(

Swear, swear, cuss, cuss, pottymouth, pottymouth, $%@!!! ... not just your problem, same on my Voyage.  I also page-flipped through and it is the entire book. I haven't decided whether to hang on to it hoping for a relatively quick update/reformat or return/refund.

eta:  I'm shocked the formatting hasn't been mentioned in any of the early Verified Purchase Kindle Edition reviews.  Duh, now I get that's what you meant by "no one else has mentioned it".
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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 05:39:07 PM »
I'm on another forum where people read this series and apparently the publisher is very slow to fix these types of problems (or doesn't bother).  There was a bit fru-fru over whether it was Kobo not updating the file or the publisher ignoring the problem...hopefully it gets resolved.  Amazon doesn't mess around with reports like that.  They'll freeze the book until it is fixed!

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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 05:51:35 PM »
I'm on another forum where people read this series and apparently the publisher is very slow to fix these types of problems (or doesn't bother).  There was a bit fru-fru over whether it was Kobo not updating the file or the publisher ignoring the problem...hopefully it gets resolved.  Amazon doesn't mess around with reports like that.  They'll freeze the book until it is fixed!

I hope enough folks are reporting it at Amazon, then.  I reported it from the Kindle book page as a formatting problem that affected the entire book.  In my comments to the report, I noted the lack of paragraph formatting is easily visible from the Look Inside feature.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 06:38:31 PM »
I hope enough folks are reporting it at Amazon, then.  I reported it from the Kindle book page as a formatting problem that affected the entire book.  In my comments to the report, I noted the lack of paragraph formatting is easily visible from the Look Inside feature.

How do you do that? You mean at the bottom of the book page? . . . I will do that. I returned it and marked it as defective content, but there's no way to explain further.

I did just return it and then re-bought it but the new copy was the same. And I tried a restart on my kindle in case it was a device glitch but no change.

I'm going to check it on my Oasis, but if it's bad there, I'm going to return it again and not get it until they've fixed it. I want to read it, but I NEED paragraph indents! :o :o :o :o


So very disappointed. :( >:( :(
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 07:02:06 PM »
Yes, clear at the bottom of the Amazon sales page for the book there is a blue box that says "Feedback" and then the second choice is "Would you like to report poor quality or formatting in this book? Click here." That opens up an actual report form.

I don't feel like I can return it at this point since my mother started it and has powered through about half of it already ignoring lack of paragraphs. I really, really, REALLY hope Simon and Schuster Digital Sales Inc. pays attention.

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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 07:52:14 PM »
I need to move this series to the top of my tbr list. I have had the box set of the first 3 checked out with KU for a long time now. Its not even in KU anymore at this point. I think its because its a box set of 3, so a bit daunting. 3 at once that is.

Once I finish my library loans, I'll give it a shot. But I'll not be reading any shorts. Will I miss anything? That would drive me nuts, but I just do not like or read shorts.

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2017, 04:43:08 AM »
I need to move this series to the top of my tbr list. I have had the box set of the first 3 checked out with KU for a long time now. Its not even in KU anymore at this point. I think its because its a box set of 3, so a bit daunting. 3 at once that is.

Once I finish my library loans, I'll give it a shot. But I'll not be reading any shorts. Will I miss anything? That would drive me nuts, but I just do not like or read shorts.

The shorts are fun . . . but are not critical to follow things in the full length books. I've enjoyed them because, sometimes, after finishing a longer book that's a little heavier, reading one of the shorts in this series is just what I need as a palate cleanser: characters I know, no need to learn a backstory, a quick adventure that ends on an up note.


I don't feel like I can return it at this point since my mother started it and has powered through about half of it already ignoring lack of paragraphs. I really, really, REALLY hope Simon and Schuster Digital Sales Inc. pays attention.

Piffle.

If she gets finished before your 7 days, I would return it. You're not breaking any rules and, in this case, I don't see an ethics issue -- though normally, if I read a book, I wouldn't return it even if still within the return period. Seems to me, the fact that your mom can plow through, doesn't alter the fact that it's not satisfactory to you.

Heck, even if it's after a week, I don't think there'd be anything wrong with contacting them and making the same point. You can say you didn't return it sooner because another person on your account was reading it and she didn't seem to mind the defective formatting but that YOU DO; you haven't read it and won't until and unless it gets fixed so you'd like your money back now. In fact, that might be MORE effective -- 'cause you'll be able to make the point to yet another person.

When I reported it via the book page link, I basically said that there were no paragraph indents which, for me, made the book unreadable and that I was extremely disappointed since I'd had it on pre-order for half a year and was really looking forward to it. But, on returning it, all you can really do is choose a reason, one of which is defective formatting, which doesn't really explain the problem.

We haven't heard from Linda . . . . I'm wondering if the UK edition didn't have the problem, 'cause I feel like it's something she'd have mentioned. Linda? :)


eta: here's how annoyed I am: I just posted a one star review because I found it unreadable. When they fix the problem I will read it, and I'll happily edit the review. I'm not sure why this is P******* me off so much. I think it's because I was SOOOO looking forward to a fun read as a break from heavy thinking in the tax office and then . . . :( PLUS, I think I'm feeling betrayed/used because I pre-ordered thinking I didn't have to worry about any such crap. >:(
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2017, 06:46:28 AM »
We haven't heard from Linda . . . . I'm wondering if the UK edition didn't have the problem, 'cause I feel like it's something she'd have mentioned. Linda? :)

My UK download is OK. I have left hand indents on the first line of each paragraph, except the first one in each chapter or section of chapter. When a new section starts there's also a two or three line gap. I've tried it on my Voyage, phone app and Fire app and they're all fine.

eta: here's how annoyed I am: I just posted a one star review because I found it unreadable. When they fix the problem I will read it, and I'll happily edit the review. I'm not sure why this is P******* me off so much. I think it's because I was SOOOO looking forward to a fun read as a break from heavy thinking in the tax office and then . . . :( PLUS, I think I'm feeling betrayed/used because I pre-ordered thinking I didn't have to worry about any such crap. >:(

Not sure 'fun' is how I would describe this one, but I'm only just past the half way mark. It's good though, with all the usual totally unexpected twists and turns.
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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2017, 07:09:36 AM »
My UK download is OK. I have left hand indents on the first line of each paragraph, except the first one in each chapter or section of chapter. When a new section starts there's also a two or three line gap. I've tried it on my Voyage, phone app and Fire app and they're all fine.


So . . . . it sounds like it's an issue with the US version, for whatever reason. Most annoying. >:( >:( >:(

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Not sure 'fun' is how I would describe this one, but I'm only just past the half way mark. It's good though, with all the usual totally unexpected twists and turns.

Well, yeah, they usually do go to somewhat scary places . . . . but you always sort of know it's going to work out: you just don't know how. And this one starts by saying Max and the Baby and Leon are all fine, so there's that. :) (That's as much as I read before I couldn't handle the lack of paragraph indents. :()

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2017, 07:25:57 AM »
eta: here's how annoyed I am: I just posted a one star review because I found it unreadable. When they fix the problem I will read it, and I'll happily edit the review. I'm not sure why this is P******* me off so much. I think it's because I was SOOOO looking forward to a fun read as a break from heavy thinking in the tax office and then . . . :( PLUS, I think I'm feeling betrayed/used because I pre-ordered thinking I didn't have to worry about any such crap. >:(

More disappointment.  Apparently because you have returned the book, your review is not a Verified Purchase review and thus hidden until clicking through.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2017, 07:31:14 AM »
Wow, I just looked at the look inside and if that is how the book looks on the kindle, it would be pretty unreadable to me too. Its like a wall of text, my eyes would hurt after 2 pages.


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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2017, 07:52:30 AM »
Wow, I just looked at the look inside and if that is how the book looks on the kindle, it would be pretty unreadable to me too. Its like a wall of text, my eyes would hurt after 2 pages.

Hmm... well that's odd. As my UK download is OK I checked the 'look inside' feature on the US website (as described by Atunah above) to see what you're all battling with, but for me, even that's displaying OK, with left hand indents etc.

This is the formatting I see, both on my Voyage and on Amazon US:-

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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2017, 07:53:00 AM »
More disappointment.  Apparently because you have returned the book, your review is not a Verified Purchase review and thus hidden until clicking through.



:(  Yeah, I noticed that too. :(  Oh, well.

I suppose I should have written it before I returned it. ::)

Hmm... well that's odd. As my UK download is OK I checked the 'look inside' feature on the US website (as described by Atunah above) to see what you're all battling with, but for me, even that's displaying OK, with left hand indents etc.

This is the formatting I see, both on my Voyage and on Amazon US:-



:o Curiouser and curiouser.

I have checked Look Inside on two different computers and two different browsers. In all cases there's no first line indent.

So I did Linda's experiment in reverse: looked at "look inside" on the UK site. The formatting is just fine.

SOOOO Weird! :o
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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2017, 02:08:23 PM »
It's not that odd.  I think the original publisher is located in the UK, but the US is S&S.   Lots of times when a book crosses the ocean, they do an edit to either Americanize the language or British it.  Either way, the US version was probably uploaded by a US agency--which means they had to format or put in different copyright information and someone messed it up. 

It's a matter of getting the right people to look at it and that may not happen in a timely manner.

(I don't think the review would show verified even if you did it before returning the book.  I think if you return it at any point, the verified goes away).   The review will warn others but isn't likely to get the right people at S&S looking at it to get the edits done.  Flagging it as Crebel did should result in an email going out from Amazon to someone at S&S.  Should.  Might.  Could...

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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2017, 05:51:19 PM »
You might have more luck at getting the corrections expedited if you let the author or her publisher know what's happened.

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2017, 03:52:09 AM »
You might have more luck at getting the corrections expedited if you let the author or her publisher know what's happened.

Publisher's email is info@accentpress.co.uk - I can't see a personal email for her but she's on Twitter - @authorjoditaylo (that's not a typo, there's no 'r' on the end)




Thanks Linda: I've done all I can with Amazon -- returned it with explanation, reported on the book page, and written a warning review (which I know isn't really communicating with Amazon, but it sure made me feel better ::) ).  If it doesn't get fixed by the middle of the week (a week after release) I'll see if contacting the publisher and/or author helps.

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2017, 02:20:52 PM »
I don't want to add to the frustration felt by you US readers who are having to wait to read this, but I just finished And The Rest Is History and I'm grappling for a succint comment.

'I didn't see that coming' springs to mind. Or that. And certainly not that. Only at St. Mary's...  :o
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Re: I was so busy with tax season
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2017, 03:22:35 PM »
I don't want to add to the frustration felt by you US readers who are having to wait to read this, but I just finished And The Rest Is History and I'm grappling for a succint comment.

'I didn't see that coming' springs to mind. Or that. And certainly not that. Only at St. Mary's...  :o

You're so mean! ;D  I take it from "that" and "that" and "that", we don't have to worry this is the last book?

I see Ann has a comment on her review that we aren't the only ones encountering the paragraph formatting problem.  I imagine the more people that comment and report the faster they will be to do something about it.
A book, I think, is very like a little golden door.
That takes me into places where I've never been before.
It leads me into fairyland or countries strange and far.
And, best of all, the golden door always stands ajar. - Adelaide Love