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Bloody Sunrise
by Gregg Bell

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Kindle Edition published 2017-06-06
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Denny O'Callaghan is afraid to open his eyes.

He'd been out drinking last night with the guys, and his head throbs, his arms hurt, and he can't remember what he's done.

He opens his eyes. Blood. On his sheets. His pillowcase.

Then he gets a call: his ex-wife was murdered last night.

He desperately tries to piece together what happened. But he can't explain how he got the scratches on his arms, the police want to know about the domestic violence report his ex filed against him, and his buddies say he was raging against her last night before he stormed off on his own.

Right about the time she was murdered.

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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2017, 06:22:08 PM »
The explanatory note on the charts, which Jim posted in the OP, reads in part:

Note the parenthetical. It's a very specific subset of borrowed books, and there's actually more surety that the borrowed books got read than the bought ones.
Interesting, I missed that bit. I guess that makes it a wee bit better being on the sold list, along with actual sold. Like you said, the KU titles on that list actually have been opened and read some. With the sold ones, who knows.

I think they were trying to figure out a way to include the KU titles on that list. I like the "read" list better anyway, as a reader at least. I will more so, once there are genres on there I actually like reading.  8)

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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2017, 09:48:37 PM »
Interesting, I missed that bit. I guess that makes it a wee bit better being on the sold list, along with actual sold. Like you said, the KU titles on that list actually have been opened and read some. With the sold ones, who knows.

I think they were trying to figure out a way to include the KU titles on that list. I like the "read" list better anyway, as a reader at least. I will more so, once there are genres on there I actually like reading.  8)

Yeah, it's curious. I support their reasons for shifting Best Seller lists away from mere book sales. Streaming's been a huge part of our media diet for a while now, and it's only fair that the popularity contests should represent that.

It could also be nice to have a list that actually reflects indy sales and reads. These may be Amazon-only, but they're still closer to our reality than something like NYT.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2017, 05:18:14 AM »
This is quite an interesting use Amazon has found for all their data -- and you know they have GOBS of it. Like Atunah, I am intrigued by the 'most read' list as it seems like it's going to more accurately reflect whether people are actually enjoying the book. I remember when Stephen Hawking released his first edition of A Brief History of Time. It was on the 'best seller' lists for weeks and pretty much everyone I know bought a copy. But most people didn't read too far into it. . . . it was a conversation starter that just lived on the coffee table. I think the same is true for even a lot of fiction that is heavily promoted by big publishers with appearances on all the talk shows.

Anyway, what people are buying has never really influenced me, but what people are reading . . . that's a different story. I'll be interested to see how this changes/adapts/expands over the next few weeks. I wonder if there's a way to get a reminder to check it weekly? Back to look. :)

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2017, 06:26:24 AM »
I think it would be neat if they rolled out those little icons on all books.  You know the unputdownable and read more on audio ones, etc..  I'd also love to see one for series where some % of readers read through the whole thing or the first three books maybe.  That would be much more useful to me as a reader than customer reviews assuming they have a way to screen out bot activity.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2017, 07:58:09 AM »
Yeah, it's curious. I support their reasons for shifting Best Seller lists away from mere book sales. Streaming's been a huge part of our media diet for a while now, and it's only fair that the popularity contests should represent that.

It could also be nice to have a list that actually reflects indy sales and reads. These may be Amazon-only, but they're still closer to our reality than something like NYT.
There is one self-pubbled title on the fiction list, Winter Renshaw's The Perfect Illusion (#19 on the most sold fiction list). There could conceivably be others. There are a couple publisher names I don't recognize on the nonfiction list. They could be small publishers or more obscure imprints of big publishers, or they could be "single-author publishers"--self-pubbing under another name. I haven't had the time to check. Either way, having one self-pubbed title up is better than the established lists frequently do. Amazon imprint titles are represented a few times as well.

As far as being closer to reality, Author Earning Reports estimates Amazon has 80% of the US ebook market, but interestingly 50% of the US book market for all formats combined. Half is a pretty representative sampling.


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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2017, 10:48:18 AM »
The rollout of "Charts" makes me wonder if Amazon has started -- or will start -- using this data in other ways.  For equivalent bids, will AMS ads promote the book with better read-through? Will they start using this data to match reader interests to other readers (like Netflix -- if you completed 100% of a book by this author you might like to read one by this author)?

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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2017, 12:54:37 PM »
Since the Charts started yesterday, I can't find for subcategories the top 100 lists or the HNR lists as listed in order of ranks anymore. Am I missing something? Is there any way to see the ranks in order?

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2017, 01:11:49 PM »
Since the Charts started yesterday, I can't find for subcategories the top 100 lists or the HNR lists as listed in order of ranks anymore. Am I missing something?

You're missing something. I'm still seeing the top 100 for all the subcategories on the left hand side when I browse the store.

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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2017, 02:12:35 PM »
It won't be worth the bytes its displayed with. KU books count if you read the length of a free preview? Same old same old from Amazon.
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« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2017, 02:38:09 PM »
Very interesting. Will surely follow to see how it pans out.
Curious to see what those who make the list will use as a title -- "Amazon Most Read Author/Book" or "Amazon Most Sold Author/Book". I suppose the "Amazon Bestselling Author" title is kinda played, being that it is used so commonly and on so many books anymore.  ::)

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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2017, 02:44:15 PM »
Very interesting. Will surely follow to see how it pans out.
Curious to see what those who make the list will use as a title -- "Amazon Most Read Author/Book" or "Amazon Most Sold Author/Book". I suppose the "Amazon Bestselling Author" title is kinda played, being that it is used so commonly and on so many books anymore.  ::)

Maybe just "Amazon Charts #x"? I doubt readers are going to care. Though there is one SF thriller author out there who has "NY Times Bestseller" text taking up close to a third of his covers, so who knows.

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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2017, 02:48:14 PM »
Maybe just "Amazon Charts #x"? I doubt readers are going to care. Though there is one SF thriller author out there who has "NY Times Bestseller" text taking up close to a third of his covers, so who knows.
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Am I the only one wondering how long it'll take for someone to game the system? Or have I just gotten cynical?


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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2017, 05:36:26 PM »
Am I the only one wondering how long it'll take for someone to game the system? Or have I just gotten cynical?

Cynicism is healthy in any industry. What surprises me is that some of the authors just killing it in certain genres aren't on the Amazon charts. I'd have thought that Bella Forrest might be there somewhere. She's the #5 overall Amazon author atm, but that must be because of total books read and sold as opposed to one individual book. Patterson has a book at #20 on the most read list, and that's #107 in the store right now.

I'm guessing since the lists are for the week, probably averaged over the course of the week, it's going to be really hard to game something. Some box set might debut high on the list but they generally don't have enough oomph to stick in the top 100 for that long.

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« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2017, 05:53:47 PM »
One thing that concerns me about a lot of these curation efforts is that they wind up increasing inequality. The very top books already sell multiple orders of magnitude more copies than anything remotely near the midlist, and each new spotlight like this could skew it even more. It's not where I'd like efforts to be focused.

What Amazon's always done better than their competitors--mind you, that's saying virtually nothing at all--is discoverability. I'd like to see them work on more tools to that end. Make it easier for readers to find the authors they never knew existed, but desperately need to read (and vice versa). That'd be a lot more useful to the vast majority of readers and authors. I didn't really need to be reminded that The Handmaid's Tale is a pretty big deal right now.

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