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OCT 27 UPDATE: http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,252500.msg3584116.html#msg3584116
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I'm posting the following as follow-up for the folk who donated to Christina's legal fund via gogetfunding.
http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,250747.0.html

Much of the money has already been put to use.

Today, Rebecca Hamilton and QBW Services were served with a civil lawsuit citing:

1) BREACH OF WRITTEN AGREEMENT;

(2) BREACH OF IMPLIED COVENANTS OF GOOD FAITH AND FAIR DEALING;

(3) FRAUD;

(4) UNJUST ENRICHMENT;

(5) LIBEL PER SE; and

(6) DEFAMATION

Details of the case as they accrue will be posted publicly at:
http://www.lacourt.org/casesummary/ui/index.aspx?casetype=civil

You'll need to enter the case number: BC664530

It's my understanding as well that Rebecca's Amazon account was terminated last month, and that it has not been reinstated. Others likely know more about the details around the new LLC the box sets are now being published under via Pronoun.

Christina will be along later to answer what questions she can. It's early yet in the suit, and there will some things she won't be able to discuss. So please keep that in mind. Right now, she just wants to assure those who donated that their money is in fact being used for the legal fees intended.
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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2017, 03:28:22 PM »
Thanks for the update.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2017, 03:48:23 PM »
Banned by Amazon sounds like an indie's worst nightmare. Sounds like a good lesson for always being on the up and up. Behave in a shady way with your business and sooner or later it will catch up to you.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2017, 03:57:49 PM »
Thanks for the update.


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2017, 04:57:34 PM »
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to once again say a heartfelt thank you for the outpouring of support I've received since all of this went public.

The financial donations made it possible to finally hold Rebecca accountable for her actions, and the messages of support have been more helpful than I can say during what has been a very stressful time.

Thank you all very much.

If you have any questions, I'll answer what I can. I'm limited in what I can say at this time, but this has been a community effort, and it's my intention to include those interested as much as possible.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2017, 05:07:48 PM by ChristinaGarner »


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2017, 05:06:18 PM »
Hi Christina,

Wow, this is a big deal. I guess I'm just curious: will Rebecca be able to "settle"?

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2017, 05:14:40 PM »
Hi Christina,

Wow, this is a big deal. I guess I'm just curious: will Rebecca be able to "settle"?

She had the opportunity to settle in May when we sent the demand letter. She chose not to respond.


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2017, 05:23:00 PM »
Thanks for the update. I think her account being banned hasn't really slowed her down much. Already found some ways around it, which may or may not have been reported to Amazon.
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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2017, 05:42:51 PM »
Thank you for the update!

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Thanks so much for keeping us updated!
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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2017, 05:55:09 PM »
Thanks for the update. Good luck with this, Christina.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2017, 06:39:08 PM »
I'm confused. Is this a different Rebecca Hamilton?



edit -- link removed. The thread is only for purposes of keeping interested parties informed about the status of the case and we will NOT allow links to publications still available that rebecca may be connected to as that's off topic for the thread, thanks. -- Mod Team
« Last Edit: June 20, 2017, 07:20:04 AM by Ann in Arlington »

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 06:55:30 PM »
I'm confused. Is this a different Rebecca Hamilton?


I think she used to have more books.  Some of those look like they are actually published by the co-author.

Good luck with everything Christina!


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 07:01:46 PM »
Rebecca's KDP account was terminated. I should have been more precise.

The ebooks on her author page are published by other accounts. The cowritten books with Jasmine Walt presumably are under Jasmine's account. One of the titles is small-press pubbed. The Magic After Dark box has one of her books in it so she can claim it through her Author Central account, but it's pubbed through Pronoun. Her print and audio are also unaffected. But all ebooks via KDP are gone.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2017, 12:08:04 AM »
Thanks for keeping us updated.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2017, 01:21:31 AM »
Rebecca's KDP account was terminated. I should have been more precise.

The ebooks on her author page are published by other accounts. The cowritten books with Jasmine Walt presumably are under Jasmine's account. One of the titles is small-press pubbed. The Magic After Dark box has one of her books in it so she can claim it through her Author Central account, but it's pubbed through Pronoun. Her print and audio are also unaffected. But all ebooks via KDP are gone.

I guess that puts a giant hole in the "Amazon doesn't have a problem with it" defense.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2017, 02:13:17 AM »
Amazon actually terminated her KDP account? Color me pleasantly surprised.

I wonder if some of her proteges are next? It'd be nice if the scammers were cleared out before I finally publish my UF novels, but that's probably too much to hope for. Scammers always find a way...

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2017, 02:41:01 AM »
Amazon actually terminated her KDP account? Color me pleasantly surprised.

I wonder if some of her proteges are next? It'd be nice if the scammers were cleared out before I finally publish my UF novels, but that's probably too much to hope for. Scammers always find a way...

They find a way, or they find a new scam.


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2017, 05:26:52 AM »
Amazon actually terminated her KDP account? Color me pleasantly surprised.

I wonder if some of her proteges are next? It'd be nice if the scammers were cleared out before I finally publish my UF novels, but that's probably too much to hope for. Scammers always find a way...

And make things more difficult for the rest of us.

Google's answer to the scammers was to shut down access. I doubt Amazon will go that far. If a scammer is going to bypass KDP and use a distributor (like Pronoun) to get back on Amazon, they won't last long. After all, Amazon will still be able to catch rank manipulation IF they are looking for it.

In a previous life, I uncovered an international fraud scheme and brought it to the attention of the Executive  team. I was told the FBI was monitoring it and to allow the fraudsters to continue doing what they were doing. Apparently they (FBI) wanted to give them enough rope to hang themselves with before they made their move.

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2017, 05:41:58 AM »
For those wishing to read the complaint but lacking an LA County Courts account (and their ridiculous fees): https://www.dropbox.com/s/vc75q2r5p7iwree/HamiltonCaseComplaint.pdf?dl=1


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2017, 06:26:13 AM »
She had the opportunity to settle in May when we sent the demand letter. She chose not to respond.

Fight the good fight.


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2017, 08:42:48 AM »
For those wishing to read the complaint but lacking an LA County Courts account (and their ridiculous fees): https://www.dropbox.com/s/vc75q2r5p7iwree/HamiltonCaseComplaint.pdf?dl=1

Thanks for posting that. Very interesting reading.


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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2017, 09:59:42 AM »
Folks, after some discussion, the forum staff feels it's probably best not to extensively discuss an ongoing legal case. That said, we know many members are interested in this matter, and we invite Christina to post updates as the case develops in concrete ways.

Edit: I've removed a handful of posts that get into the legality/ethics of using famous authors' names in promo activities, since this topic (while interesting) leads the thread away from Christina's case.
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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2017, 09:59:39 AM »
After further discussion, we've decided to reopen this thread. We ask that it remain specifically focused on Christina's legal case rather than other issues related to Rebecca Hamilton. We have already hosted one lengthy and very difficult thread about RH and we feel that thread was enough.
 

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Re: Garner/Hamilton/QBW Services Lawsuit Now In Progress
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2017, 05:59:41 PM »
I appreciate the thread being reopened.


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