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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2017, 09:11:12 AM »
There are pirate sites everywhere with my books on them (and just about everyone else's books  ::) ), so I wouldn't worry about China and copyright.

I agree with this completely.  Pirate sites are everywhere, including in China.  But that doesn't mean you can't make money through legitimate sales of translations of your books.  Eight of my books have been translated into Chinese and published there, and they've done just fine.  Here are some details on my translations, if anyone is interested.

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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2017, 11:27:39 AM »
I live in China. Almost no one here would ever use Amazon.

They have Taobao! And Alibaba! And Baidu books. Taobao is life over here. The Chinese government uses a lot of protectionist practices that give favor to their local companies. No google over here. People all use Baidu for a search engine. Uber had a huge headache and sold their entire platform to Didi. Taobao and Alibaba are in many ways copies of Amazon and Ebay.

Very few people read English books over here (obviously).



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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2017, 02:03:21 PM »
I live in China. Almost no one here would ever use Amazon.

They have Taobao! And Alibaba! And Baidu books. Taobao is life over here.

Which is the best for checking print editions? I have book coming out in translation in a few weeks or months. (I just okayed the dust cover.)
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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2017, 02:30:39 PM »
My only book on Amazon's China site, ironically, is the (Createspace) print version of the dark romance novel KDP took down for reasons known only to them after the ebook had already been on sale for several months.

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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2017, 07:12:25 PM »
 :D The Life and Art of Claude Monet came up when I searched for my name in the Amazon China store. Well, I'll take that as a compliment. I'm a huge fan of Claude Monet.

Great to see the market extending. There are more people who can read English in China than in the United States. :)
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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2017, 07:55:50 PM »
Neither can I find my book there...

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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2017, 11:29:09 PM »
:D The Life and Art of Claude Monet came up when I searched for my name in the Amazon China store. Well, I'll take that as a compliment. I'm a huge fan of Claude Monet.

Great to see the market extending. There are more people who can read English in China than in the United States. :)

Not really, no.

I work in education here. Even people who major in English at university can't read English novels. =  (

There are a lot of fake "facts" running around the internet.
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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2017, 05:36:19 AM »
My second Chinese translation book Bheki and the Magic Light is now on sale on Amazon China and has at least one sale and one 5 star review by a verified purchaser  ;D. I don't know how many sales it has had as I can only see the ranking.

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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2017, 08:52:23 AM »
Not really, no.

I work in education here. Even people who major in English at university can't read English novels. =  (

There are a lot of fake "facts" running around the internet.

Lot's of fake facts on the internet I agree.

Whatever the English literacy numbers are now in China, they will increase, due to China and Australia doing business dealings in English, and China being Australia's largest trading partner in both imports and exports.

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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2017, 09:24:52 AM »
Lot's of fake facts on the internet I agree.

Whatever the English literacy numbers are now in China, they will increase, due to China and Australia doing business dealings in English, and China being Australia's largest trading partner in both imports and exports.

Australia doesn't account for a very high percentage of Chinese trade. They are only their 5-6th biggest trading partner. The average Chinese isn't going to all of a sudden start learning high level English because of the western nations. The English language system in China is similar to the system in Japan...which is to say BAD. In China English is compulsory from childhood but even after 10 plus years of daily study less than 1% could read at a middle-school level. And maybe a .01% of those learners could understand a high-level conversation.

China is also looking INWARD going forward NOT outward. The Belt and Road initiative is part of an overall theme of reemergence of China. They are going to be pushing for more Chinese language schools abroad. The average Chinese only studies English to pass the "gaokao" exam which is a make or break test for Chinese youth.

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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 09:58:36 AM »
I agree, Herefortheride, China is a major economy, if not the major economy and Australia is a small player by comparison. :-)

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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2017, 12:54:26 PM »
I spent some time in Kunming in 1986, and my impression was rather different -- that a surprising number of the people I met spoke English. (I don't know, of course, how well they READ it.) As a blue-eyed honky several inches taller than anyone else in the city, I was obviously a foreigner, though nobody could know what species of foreigner I was. A man selling tee-shirts asked me -- in English -- if I were Japanese. Little girls in a gated schoolyard clustered at the wrought-iron fence and chorused at me: Hello Hello Hello! I bowed and said Hello, whereupon they almost fainted away with excitement.

More recently, when I needed help translating Japanese histories of the Pacific War, I hired a young graduate student at the nearby state university. She proved to be Chinese. She was so fluent that the only way one could tell that she wasn't a native English speaker was the way she pronounced the short O, as in "wolf."

My daughter's room-mate in college was from Taiwan. Again, her English was as good or better than most of the American college freshman I have talked to. So I'm fairly optimistic about the market. Really, it ought to be as good as Japan's, where I do sell some books (all English language).
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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2017, 01:13:29 AM »
Got my first sales report for The Race, which is showing 67 RMB (not sure what that is  ::) ) from three separate websites. I can only guess at the actual sales numbers. Will have to ask if the publisher can provide them.
I rather like the voting for reviews on the one website, which instead of having 'helpful' and 'unhelpful' for up and down voting, translates to 'useful' and 'useless'. I think this would be more appropriate for some of the reviews posted on the Amazon sites  :D

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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2017, 01:24:34 AM »
Got my first sales report for The Race, which is showing 67 RMB (not sure what that is  ::) ) from three separate websites. I can only guess at the actual sales numbers. Will have to ask if the publisher can provide them.

RMB = Renminbi

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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2017, 01:37:04 AM »
RMB = Renminbi

Current exchange rate with the Rand:




Thanks. I thought it was probably Yuan, but wondered why it was listed as RMB. Another bit of useful info gleaned from the KBoards  :)

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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2017, 01:54:52 AM »
Thanks. I thought it was probably Yuan, but wondered why it was listed as RMB. Another bit of useful info gleaned from the KBoards  :)

RMB is the currency. The yuan is a unit of the currency. Somewhat interchangable but in reality most similar to sterling and pound.
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« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2017, 02:18:56 AM »
RMB is the currency. The yuan is a unit of the currency. Somewhat interchangable but in reality most similar to sterling and pound.

Thanks. That makes sense.

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Re: Amazon's China site for books
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2017, 08:45:38 AM »
I live in China. Almost no one here would ever use Amazon.

They have Taobao! And Alibaba! And Baidu books. Taobao is life over here. The Chinese government uses a lot of protectionist practices that give favor to their local companies. No google over here. People all use Baidu for a search engine. Uber had a huge headache and sold their entire platform to Didi. Taobao and Alibaba are in many ways copies of Amazon and Ebay.

Very few people read English books over here (obviously).



I asked about my sales on Amazon.cn and received this reply from the Fiberead project leader.

Yes you are quite right about multiple platforms, but Amazon is almost the biggest platform for paid e-books. From my observation of the sales data, it almost equals the total amount of the other platforms.

Did you ever get to speak to the Fiberead team?

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« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2017, 08:54:34 AM »
I asked about my sales on Amazon.cn and received this reply from the Fiberead project leader.

Yes you are quite right about multiple platforms, but Amazon is almost the biggest platform for paid e-books. From my observation of the sales data, it almost equals the total amount of the other platforms.

Did you ever get to speak to the Fiberead team?

I have been thinking about it. I just put out a new release and have been pretty busy but I know for a fact that Amazon.cn is a small-time player. There are multiple business articles that can be google searched discussing this and my own "boots on the ground" knowledge tells me that no one really has ever used Amazon (none of my chinese friends or co-workers).

Does fibreread not sell through the bigger book sites?

Could you tell me is there a place where they show their hot sellers? I've looked on their website of books and most of their displayed books are not that impressive. Many poorly done indie books. I'd like to get the translations done but I feel like there is something fishy going on.

Have you ever asked which books are their hot sellers?

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« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2017, 10:27:31 AM »
I have been thinking about it. I just put out a new release and have been pretty busy but I know for a fact that Amazon.cn is a small-time player. There are multiple business articles that can be google searched discussing this and my own "boots on the ground" knowledge tells me that no one really has ever used Amazon (none of my chinese friends or co-workers).

Does fibreread not sell through the bigger book sites?

Could you tell me is there a place where they show their hot sellers? I've looked on their website of books and most of their displayed books are not that impressive. Many poorly done indie books. I'd like to get the translations done but I feel like there is something fishy going on.

Have you ever asked which books are their hot sellers?



These are the other two sites my book is on at the moment. Apparently they are going to be doing some marketing soon.  My other books are still in transcoding.

https://yuedu.baidu.com/ebook/dd25700c30126edb6f1aff00bed5b9f3f90f723a

https://read.douban.com/ebook/33756828/

https://read.douban.com/ebook/36507043/

I haven't asked about hotsellers. The person I deal with is also freelance.

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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2017, 10:31:40 AM »
Does fibreread not sell through the bigger book sites?

My Chinese-language editions are available on baidu, douban, and Amazon.cn.
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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2017, 11:24:48 AM »
My Chinese-language editions are available on baidu, douban, and Amazon.cn.

My sales charge lists OverDrive, but this could be Douban.

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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2017, 12:32:29 PM »
All my children's books are now translated and on sale on various sites in China, and I've had my first few royalty figures.
I've just discovered that the Chinese language books are also on sale on Amazon.com and I've actually had a sale on one of them (It showed up in my royalties).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073Z8XN8P

I've now added them to my author page, but it takes 24 hours for them to appear (according to Amazon  ::).)

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« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2017, 08:59:38 AM »
All my children's books are now translated and on sale on various sites in China, and I've had my first few royalty figures.
I've just discovered that the Chinese language books are also on sale on Amazon.com and I've actually had a sale on one of them (It showed up in my royalties).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073Z8XN8P

I've now added them to my author page, but it takes 24 hours for them to appear (according to Amazon  ::).)

Is this through Fiberread?  If so, how do you find them to work with?

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« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2017, 10:24:42 AM »
Is this through Fiberread?  If so, how do you find them to work with?

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Yes. it's through Fiberead. I haven't had any problems with them. I've worked with the project leader and four or five translators.

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