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« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2017, 12:54:30 PM »
Which isn't saying much, considering the ease with which Palpatine wiped out the Jedis in Episode III.  8)

That's an excellent point. I now aspire to develop Palpatine-level skills.
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« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2017, 05:34:15 PM »
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I'm assuming KU subscribers end up buying other things while they're onsite.

Hence the lack of care Amazon has about the scammers. So long as the customers keep coming and buying all the things, it's good. Authors? We're a penny a gross. Really. For every one of us that leaves KU, I bet at least a dozen sign up. So what's Amazon lost? Nothing. Well, maybe those whiny authors go away, but there's always new suckers -- er, enrollments.

My evil plan is to write good books and pay to have them botted up the charts. Win-win!
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« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2017, 08:18:06 PM »
Hey, folks, the comparisons between staying in KU or not are getting a bit over the top.  Let's bring it down a notch, okay?  Respect differences of opinion.

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« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2017, 08:35:07 PM »
...even with that shift, 99% of the authors who are upset will stay in KU. So why would Amazon rush to fix something no one is bailing on?

So in a certain light, everyone in KU is getting what they deserve. If your spouse beats you up over and over and you stay because making a change is too hard to fathom... while you aren't to blame, you share some of the blame for your situation by sticking around.

As long as authors stick around, Amazon is in no rush to fix things. They're all going home each day millionaires and billionaires, so it ain't hurting their personal bottom line.

True, as I plan on staying in, but it's more like- as long as Amazon keeps mostly ignoring me over and over and over again cause he's too busy hanging out and spending all his time, money and attention on his mistresses and going to the track and the casino and the topless bars and such, which are bleeding him dry almost faster than I can, but he keeps throwing all this, yes overtime decreasing, cash at me, then I'll stay cause I've tried other husbands/companies and at least this one's jet still flies and he can still get it up when he needs to.

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« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2017, 08:52:03 PM »
True, as I plan on staying in, but it's more like- as long as Amazon keeps mostly ignoring me over and over and over again cause he's too busy hanging out and spending all his time, money and attention on his mistresses and going to the track and the casino and the topless bars and such, which are bleeding him dry almost faster than I can, but he keeps throwing all this, yes overtime decreasing, cash at me, then I'll stay cause I've tried other husbands/companies and at least this one's jet still flies and he can still get it up when he needs to.

That pretty much describes the WHOLE situation.  ;D :o :(

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« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2017, 07:45:23 AM »
True, as I plan on staying in, but it's more like- as long as Amazon keeps mostly ignoring me over and over and over again cause he's too busy hanging out and spending all his time, money and attention on his mistresses and going to the track and the casino and the topless bars and such, which are bleeding him dry almost faster than I can, but he keeps throwing all this, yes overtime decreasing, cash at me, then I'll stay cause I've tried other husbands/companies and at least this one's jet still flies and he can still get it up when he needs to.
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« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2017, 02:29:14 PM »

Then some people kicked up a stink on social media and Amazon did something. They seem to have stripped her books' rankings so she doesn't appear in the charts - but the books are still up, and she has still hacked her way into Kindle Singles somehow.

So they are doing the bare minimum to avoid PR fallout.

I've been working on this issue for 18 months and I haven't seen anything other than Amazon doing that bare minimum and managing the situation in a PR sense, rather than trying to solve it technically.
Positive PR is a #1 priority for Amazon.

No. I've never seen any data indicating that KU subscriptions are anywhere near their monthly payout. It's a loss leader for them.

Show me the subscription numbers if I'm wrong.
KU subscriptions are the fuel that feeds the machine. Amazon's last quarter topped estimates, making $35.71 billion. Analysts thought the big profits would come from AWS (Amazon Web Services), which didn't do as well as they expected. According to a WSJ reporter, Laura Stevens, "The company's retail subscription services segment experienced a big jump in 1Q vs. 4Q, and the largest piece comprising it is Prime memberships. But membership growth rates were largely consistent, CFO Brian Olsavsky says, so the jump happened due to other subscription services like audio books, e-books, digital music... 'The volatility is in those other items. So I'm not quantifying Prime membership or commenting on the growth rates other than to say it's been very strong and Q4 strength has continued into Q1.'

The nominal fee Amazon charges for KU is meaningless, it's the carrot at the end of the stick. Prime memberships is what Amazon is aiming for, because Prime members spend on average $500 more on Amazon than non-members. It's all about business. As long as Amazon can lure customers into Prime memberships by first hooking them into KU, the company will continue to grow and make more billions every quarter.

The KU subscriptions aren't a loss leader, at least not in a traditional sense. KU subscriptions are bait. The CFO acknowledged that e-books were a factor behind Amazon's tremendous fiscal quarter. Books in Select made this possible, and as long as authors keep their books in Select, the Amazon system will continue running like a well-oiled machine.

I'm not posting this to complain: my books aren't in KU. I had books in there at one time and had grief, so I got out. I can understand why those of you who are in KU are upset, but I don't see anything changing unless there is a large and noticeable exodus of the most popular authors in KU, which I doubt would happen. The only other possibility is that the scamming would get the attention of the press. Amazon does not want negative publicity.

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« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2017, 02:36:45 PM »

So yes, the company has a ton of pressing issues and KU is likely low in importance on the company's radar. But the way it was being pushed on Prime Day seems to assure us it is of high importance to KDP, the overall Books division and to the teams running it. Their focus is not on Chinese knock-offs and affiliate scammers, but on book sales in their ecosystem, and how to make the customer experience *in the books section* flawless. That's a vastly more manageable landscape.
It's my guess that KU is of high importance on the company's radar. It was being pushed on Prime Day to get people to join with the eventual goal of getting them to join Prime.

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« Reply #83 on: July 17, 2017, 06:25:10 AM »
I have to admit I was saddened but not shocked to find out these things exist. People never seem to want to take the long road and earn things anymore. Too many people just look for the easy path to what they want. For me, it would mean so much less when I reach my goals if I knew I didn't actually earn it. But maybe that is just me. However, I have a feeling there are others here who would agree.
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« Reply #84 on: July 17, 2017, 01:51:31 PM »
I think it's pretty much human nature to look for the easy way. We can understand that, though not agree with it, but when the company many depend on to earn at least a partial living just allows blatant scamming to go on, it's hard to just accept it. This sort of thing hurts us, and there's no need for things to be this bad. There just isn't.
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