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Does anyone know who is running "Crave Books"?
« on: August 02, 2017, 02:24:13 PM »
Just wondering if it is legit. http://www.cravebooks.com/


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Re: Does anyone know who is running "Crave Books"?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2017, 02:28:44 PM »
You can go to https://whois.icann.org and look it up.

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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2017, 02:51:21 PM »
Please post your results. I have them listed as a good place to advertise romance, and while I haven't bought a feature yet, they're on my list for a September promo.

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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2017, 03:50:43 PM »
Someone sent me a message saying that "the web site is registered to a guy who doesn't live there (it's a small single family house and no one with his name is associated with it) and to a company name that isn't registered in Florida. The phone number is invalid. It's a Virginia area code but the number itself doesn't exist."

So ... it sounds a little bit sketchy. The domain was registered in 2009, but this is the first I've heard of them.


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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2017, 03:52:12 PM »
Is it new? It says your book will be featured on their site, but you cannot browse deals on their site?  It says you'll get a Facebook post, but the only Crave Books on Facebook is a blogger. There's also no "about us" or other social media links which is another huge red flag.

Reminds me alot of another business that sounds like crave...  ::)

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2017, 04:05:57 PM »
I found this FB page, but it is in another language: https://www.facebook.com/CraveBooks/


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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2017, 04:06:59 PM »
Ah, here is the FB page: https://www.facebook.com/ReadCraveBooks/

It only has 40 likes.


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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2017, 04:15:13 PM »
I found this FB page, but it is in another language: https://www.facebook.com/CraveBooks/

This is the one I found. Feels scammy to me. What are they charging to post your title to their 40 likes on FB?

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This is the one I found. Feels scammy to me. What are they charging to post your title to their 40 likes on FB?


I think $18 for the 10,000+ mailing list. I presume that includes $5 for the boosted FB post.


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Re: Does anyone know who is running "Crave Books"?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2017, 03:10:09 AM »
I got an email from them which concerns me as I have never signed up to receive emails from them (as far as I'm aware). So how did they get it?

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2017, 03:36:14 AM »
I got an email from them which concerns me as I have never signed up to receive emails from them (as far as I'm aware). So how did they get it?

Took me 5 seconds to find an email address on your web site.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 08:40:25 AM »
I got an email from them which concerns me as I have never signed up to receive emails from them (as far as I'm aware). So how did they get it?

Ditto.  >:(
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 08:46:21 AM »
I just got an email from them too.  Weird.

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 08:58:24 AM »
I got an email from them today, too. And to an old email address that is no longer active (domain folded, but they set up perma-forwarding).  ???
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Re: Does anyone know who is running "Crave Books"?
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Reason #8745 to be anonymous on writing forums: Random spammers can't find you to make you a recipient of their invitations.

If they are scrubbing websites for email addresses they are not a legitimate business. I got an email today too and reported it as spam.

Also, the email sucked donkey balls. The pictures were all blown up and distorted.


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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 09:24:46 AM »
I have Crave Romance listed as a Fiverr deal. Is that right?

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Re: Does anyone know who is running "Crave Books"?
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 09:44:30 AM »

I think $18 for the 10,000+ mailing list. I presume that includes $5 for the boosted FB post.

They are more expensive than Bookbub. Sounds crazy to say that given what Bookbub charges, but when you do the math, it's vastly more expensive. With this pricing, if they had the same size list as Bookbub--take contemporary romance as an example, the ad would cost you $4,248, instead of Bookbub's price of $372 on a free ad.  Interesting, huh?   Bookbub's cost, if you emailed to only 10,000 on the contemporary list (not possible, but just for comparison), would cost you $1.57 and this service charges $18.   

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2017, 09:45:44 AM »
Two sites I use when trying to get an idea about a promotion site, especially one I don't know is easycounter.com and alexa.com.
Of course these are only a guide, but you get a fair idea, when using both, how popular a site is, how many page reads they get, and other information about the owner and their social media performance.




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They are more expensive than Bookbub. Sounds crazy to say that given what Bookbub charges, but when you do the math, it's vastly more expensive. With this pricing, if they had the same size list as Bookbub--take contemporary romance as an example, the ad would cost you $4,248, instead of Bookbub's price of $372 on a free ad.  Interesting, huh?   Bookbub's cost, if you emailed to only 10,000 on the contemporary list (not possible, but just for comparison), would cost you $1.57 and this service charges $18.

Yeah, and BookBub's email addresses are more likely to be authentic. :-P


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I have Crave Romance listed as a Fiverr deal. Is that right?

No idea ... maybe they reach people there too.


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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 10:31:57 AM »
They are more expensive than Bookbub. Sounds crazy to say that given what Bookbub charges, but when you do the math, it's vastly more expensive. With this pricing, if they had the same size list as Bookbub--take contemporary romance as an example, the ad would cost you $4,248, instead of Bookbub's price of $372 on a free ad.  Interesting, huh?   Bookbub's cost, if you emailed to only 10,000 on the contemporary list (not possible, but just for comparison), would cost you $1.57 and this service charges $18.

That's not really a fair comparison though. Run those same numbers with ANY ebook advertising service and it comes out looking just as lopsided. Bookbud is just a really good deal.

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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 11:01:20 AM »
I got an email from them also. They must be scraping emails from somewhere. If that is your newsletter blast then I see a red flag. Sending an email to a another book promo company isn't a great business plan.

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From most of the actual profit numbers I've seen, it's not that Bookbub is a really good deal, it's that almost every other service is a bad deal.

Nah, BookBub is a really good deal.


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Re: Does anyone know who is running "Crave Books"?
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 04:51:15 PM »
I got an email out of the blue from them, too. Someone should really let them know that scraping addresses and sending unsolicited emails is not a good way to create a good impression for the product they're selling. :-/

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 06:21:27 PM »
I got an email out of the blue from them, too. Someone should really let them know that scraping addresses and sending unsolicited emails is not a good way to create a good impression for the product they're selling. :-/

And yet I signed up as a reader yesterday and got nothing! There's no double opt in, no welcome email, no previous day's deals, no information about setting your genre preferences. So make of that what you will...

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