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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2017, 07:03:02 AM »
maxcovers made a few covers for me and I was happy with the results. However, his portfolio also contains covers I know weren't made by him. When I asked, he said the cover designer hired him to do some other work (I can't remember what exactly he said the work was). I didn't exactly believe him, but I gave him a try anyway.

He doesn't participate much in the brainstorming process, although if you tell him you want a flower in the backdrop, for example, he'll get you one.

https://www.fiverr.com/maxcovers/best-design-a-professional-ebook-cover-ever?context=recommendation&context_type=natural&context_alg=gig_to_gig&context_referrer=homepage&source=shopping_trends&funnel=bb250d41-9d49-449a-81f4-dfc98cb4b7cb

Edited to add: I reread this post and saw that I did, in fact, allege that this designer didn't make the covers on his Fiverr page. However, I have no evidence and no right to make such a claim. At best, it's a suspicion. I leave it up to the OP to decide whether the designer is worth checking out.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2017, 08:10:57 AM »
That's one of the reasons I don't like Fiverr. I have no idea what makes a good cover. I could look at 'similar' books in my genre all day and be clueless. It's just not in my wheelhouse. When looking for a book, I barely pay attention to a cover. I've tried going through my genre...but I'm not finding success. If it wasn't for the nice lady who helped me with my current cover, I'd still be using the cover I thought was decent but everyone told me wasn't a 'scifi' cover.

So, when fiverr artists ask me to pick a few that are as close as possible to what I'd like...well, I'm flubberknucked.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2017, 08:25:13 AM »
maxcovers made a few covers for me and I was happy with the results. However, his portfolio also contains covers I now weren't made by him. When I asked, he said the cover designer hired him to do some other work (I can't remember what exactly he said the work was). I didn't exactly believe him, but I gave him a try anyway.

He doesn't participate much in the brainstorming process, although if you tell him you want a flower in the backdrop, for example, he'll get you one.

https://www.fiverr.com/maxcovers/best-design-a-professional-ebook-cover-ever?context=recommendation&context_type=natural&context_alg=gig_to_gig&context_referrer=homepage&source=shopping_trends&funnel=bb250d41-9d49-449a-81f4-dfc98cb4b7cb

Yeah, I noticed this right off the bat...





Did you follow up with the actual cover designer to see if that was true? In the end, it's your reputation on the line if you get called out for using stolen work or unlicensed images.

Derek of CreativIndieCovers starts at $349 for a cover like Gates of Hell. And look at that cover, it's awesome. Yet this guy on Fiverr is implying he can design a cover like that for $10-$25-$40. He's actually not implying but having it in his Fiverr portfolio he's stating he designed that cover. Pish posh.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2017, 09:08:50 AM »
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Did you follow up with the actual cover designer to see if that was true? In the end, it's your reputation on the line if you get called out for using stolen work or unlicensed images.

Derek of CreativIndieCovers starts at $349 for a cover like Gates of Hell. And look at that cover, it's awesome. Yet this guy on Fiverr is implying he can design a cover like that for $10-$25-$40. He's actually not implying but having it in his Fiverr portfolio he's stating he designed that cover. Pish posh.

No, I left the matter alone.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2017, 01:45:00 PM »
No, I left the matter alone.

Mmm...if an author should display someone else's book on his website and claim he helped to ghostwrite a part of it, I wonder if authors will also react by saying it's okay - just ignore it and buy some of his other books....

Or what if a ghostwriter uses YOUR book to advertise their services?  Would that be okay with you?
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2017, 01:31:55 AM »
Mmm...if an author should display someone else's book on his website and claim he helped to ghostwrite a part of it, I wonder if authors will also react by saying it's okay - just ignore it and buy some of his other books....

I find it interesting that you said I ignored it, and I especially take exception to your suggestion that I found it OK. Like I said, I asked the designer about the cover and he said he did some work on it. It was a while back and I don't remember his exact response. I decided to give the designer the benefit of the doubt. It's really not my job to be the plagiarism police, and unless you did some follow-up, you actually don't know whether the designer told the truth or not.

I don't know how many people try to find out whether the portfolios are real before hiring cover designers. I did. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be taking the blame for here.

Have you ever seen knockoff bags, watches, clothes, makeup etc? How many have you reported?

Or what if a ghostwriter uses YOUR book to advertise their services?  Would that be okay with you?

No, it wouldn't, but that wouldn't make it somebody else's responsibility to report the ghostwriter to me.

The OP asked: 'Has anyone on the forum had good results with any of the sellers on Fiverr for their book cover artwork at a reasonable cost?' I'd rather stick to answering this question. If you feel so strongly about alleged plagiarism, you're free to contact the authors or cover designers.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2017, 01:45:23 AM »
There is a huge difference between buying something unwittingly and believing the seller's spin at the time, and recommending someone who you know filches stuff from other designers. I cannot overstate how huge.

The problem with fiverr is that 1. it doesn't check the veracity of seller's claims, 2. the people who sell there often don't know either because they're n00bs or their English is poor, 3. the writer who buys at fiverr doesn't know this either because most likely they're not terrribly experienced either and genuinely have no idea that this happens or how to spot or avoid it.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2017, 02:26:45 AM »
Bad enough when they were charging five bucks but now they're getting between $100-$150 for a cover.

Yes, but if I can get the artist that created these covers and only $15 for a premium cover, WOW! I'm all in.  ;)


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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2017, 02:34:30 AM »
There is a huge difference between buying something unwittingly and believing the seller's spin at the time, and recommending someone who you know filches stuff from other designers. I cannot overstate how huge.

Like I said, I DO NOT KNOW if he stole the cover or not. And neither do you, frankly, unless you investigated this yourself. I asked and he said he did some work on it. Why should I not accept his answer? Freelancers hire others all the time to help manage their workload.

Again, the question was, 'Has anyone on the forum had good results with any of the sellers on Fiverr for their book cover artwork at a reasonable cost?' I was happy with what maxcovers did for me. That answers the question the OP asked.

If you think there's something to report, why not write to Derek Murphy or Joanna Penn?
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2017, 02:50:29 AM »
Like I said I DO NOT KNOW if he stole the cover or not. And neither do you, frankly, unless you investigated this yourself. I asked and he said he did some work on it. Why should I not accept his answer? Freelancers hire others all the time to help manage their workload.

Again, the question was, 'Has anyone on the forum had good results with any of the sellers on Fiverr for their book cover artwork at a reasonable cost?' I had some satisfactory work done for me by maxcovers, which answers the question the OP asked.

If you think there's something to report, why not write to Derek Murphy or Joanna Penn? What problems are your criticisms solving?

I know.

I know Joanna, and she does not use people from fiverr to do her covers. Neither does Derek. He's a graphic designer. This is a fraud. Maaaayyybe, just maybe, he did some work for them, but the site gives the impression that he did the covers. It's at best misleading.

What does it solve?

I tell you what. A while ago I got an image off a free, public use image site and used it for a book cover I made myself. A few months later, I get a takedown notice and nastygram from some music group I've never heard of before, who had their lawyer send me a scary email. The person who uploaded this image to this free image website had stolen the image. Don't ask me why, since no one got paid for it, but there you go.

I took the image down of course and told him where I got it. I ended up speaking to the band's manager, and he was a really cool dude and we ended up chatting a good deal, but it could so easily have ended up in a very nasty way. Apparently the band were big in the 70s. Whatever did I know about it?

This is the sort of stuff (people threatening to sue you) is something you can totally do without as beginning writer.

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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2017, 03:00:20 AM »
I know.

I know Joanna, and she does not use people from fiverr to do her covers. Neither does Derek. He's a graphic designer. This is a fraud. Maaaayyybe, just maybe, he did some work for them, but the site gives the impression that he did the covers. It's at best misleading.

Well, you have information I don't have. I don't know if Derek hires help or not. But, I have found that some professionals also have Fiverr accounts to fill up their schedules. So, it's possible that maxcovers does other freelance work outside of Fiverr.

What does it solve?

I tell you what. A while ago I got an image off a free, public use image site and used it for a book cover I made myself. A few months later, I get a takedown notice and nastygram from some music group I've never heard of before, who had their lawyer send me a scary email. The person who uploaded this image to this free image website had stolen the image. Don't ask me why, since no one got paid for it, but there you go.

I took the image down of course and told him where I got it. I ended up speaking to the band's manager, and he was a really cool dude and we ended up chatting a good deal, but it could so easily have ended up in a very nasty way. Apparently the band were big in the 70s. Whatever did I know about it?

This is the sort of stuff (people threatening to sue you) is something you can totally do without as beginning writer.

I was asking what criticising me solves here on Kboards. The difference between your situation and mine is I didn't claim to make the Gates of Hell cover nor did I use copyrighted materials. I ordered the images used for my covers from stock photo websites; I'm sure my covers are my own.

I reread my original post. I did allege that the designer didn't make some of the covers. That was wrong.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2017, 08:30:43 AM »
I've used Maraneev for my last three book covers (some show at the top of her page):

https://www.fiverr.com/mareeniv/design-ebook-covers-catalog-covers-cd-covers

It's $63, so not as cheap as some, but well worth it. She'll redesign the cover until it fits your spec, and is very patient.

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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2017, 08:38:11 AM »
I've used Maraneev for my last three book covers (some show at the top of her page):

https://www.fiverr.com/mareeniv/design-ebook-covers-catalog-covers-cd-covers

It's $63, so not as cheap as some, but well worth it. She'll redesign the cover until it fits your spec, and is very patient.

Link didn't work for me, any idea why? I wish there was a way to search for artists by name. ETA: Never mind...I had to try like six times before it would work. I'm puzzled.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2017, 09:11:25 AM »
I emailed Derek with links to Maxcovers Fiverr gig and this thread. He replied back that he does not use Fiverr for design work but uses them for other stuff. Maxcover's cover wall is all stolen images from Derek's work. He said it happens all the time on Fiverr. So much that's he's given up wasting time with Fiverr to get that stuff down. He doesn't know who Maxcover is or if he ever used him for something else. But 100% Maxcover has not designed any covers for Derek like that Gates of Hell cover. Shocking.  ;D

And even if someone hires a person on Fiverr to do some other small gig it doesn't give that Fiverr person the right to claim that he designed $5,000 worth of covers. And by putting them in his Fiverr portfolio that's what he's doing. That he designed those covers.

I would be ticked off if the Fiverr person that designed by podcast photo album starts claiming that it's his podcast and when confronted they have the cajones to say, it's okay, I've done work for him so I can say it's my podcast.

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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2017, 10:04:05 AM »
Or what if a ghostwriter uses YOUR book to advertise their services?  Would that be okay with you?

Personally, I wouldn't care.

Two reasons:

First, on any given day, thousands of people can make false claims regarding work they've supposedly done on my books. I don't have time to police 'em.

Second, their chicanery doesn't hurt my business.

Note that I'm not addressing plagiarism. I'd treat that differently.



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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2017, 10:28:24 AM »
It appears that the designer has updated his portfolio and removed several covers. I double checked some covers with reviews, and it appears maxcovers is the legitimate designer.

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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2017, 11:12:59 AM »
It appears that the designer has updated his portfolio and removed several covers. I double checked some covers with reviews, and it looks like maxcovers is the legitimate designer.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2017, 02:33:09 PM »
I emailed Derek with links to Maxcovers Fiverr gig and this thread. He replied back that he does not use Fiverr for design work but uses them for other stuff. Maxcover's cover wall is all stolen images from Derek's work. He said it happens all the time on Fiverr. So much that's he's given up wasting time with Fiverr to get that stuff down. He doesn't know who Maxcover is or if he ever used him for something else. But 100% Maxcover has not designed any covers for Derek like that Gates of Hell cover. Shocking.  ;D

And even if someone hires a person on Fiverr to do some other small gig it doesn't give that Fiverr person the right to claim that he designed $5,000 worth of covers. And by putting them in his Fiverr portfolio that's what he's doing. That he designed those covers.

I would be ticked off if the Fiverr person that designed by podcast photo album starts claiming that it's his podcast and when confronted they have the cajones to say, it's okay, I've done work for him so I can say it's my podcast.

That is the problem - it takes time to get the stuff taken down, and new designers just pop up again doing the same thing.  The whole thing stinks.  I mean I just had a look over there now and there are still dozens of portfolios filled with stolen stuff. They are falsely claiming to have created those covers, and using the hard work of others to sell their gigs.  Until Fiverr does something to check on their sellers it is just not a place I can recommend.  It is cheating and fraud, and I don't see why it is any less serious than book scammers who use click farms, scammers who pirate books and any other kind of fraud that goes on in the book business.

And I will say it here.  I mean if the OP had asked which click farm someone can recommend for advertising his or her book - all the authors here would have jumped on him and thoroughly told him why not to use a click farm in the first place.  So I am explaining why Fiverr should not be used in the first place.

Fiverr knows it is illegal and copyright infringement.  They have taken down whole accounts that I have reported.  So they know there is a problem.  They need to put measures in place to prevent it, that's all.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2017, 02:41:24 PM »
Like I said, I DO NOT KNOW if he stole the cover or not. And neither do you, frankly, unless you investigated this yourself. I asked and he said he did some work on it. Why should I not accept his answer? Freelancers hire others all the time to help manage their workload.

Again, the question was, 'Has anyone on the forum had good results with any of the sellers on Fiverr for their book cover artwork at a reasonable cost?' I was happy with what maxcovers did for me. That answers the question the OP asked.

If you think there's something to report, why not write to Derek Murphy or Joanna Penn?

So if someone asks for recommendations for advertising click farms you will also give the one that worked for you, and state that if anyone has anything against a particular click farm they need to contact the FBI instead?

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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2017, 05:47:56 PM »
Just look for how covers look, where there is actually a review on it.
Usually when you have these "good looking" things and then you go to the entries where there is a review, it looks quite diffeernt.

Dont see one in the carrrousel at the top? Big red flag.

Also look out for style - usually designers have a style which they seldom deviate from. Variety in their display is a hint for "not from them"

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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2017, 06:39:56 AM »
So if someone asks for recommendations for advertising click farms you will also give the one that worked for you, and state that if anyone has anything against a particular click farm they need to contact the FBI instead?

Just because you believe Fiverr designers and clickfarms are the same doesn't mean they are. You didn't answer my question on whether you report every fake thing you come across.

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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2017, 12:58:13 PM »
Here's the thing: what ends up on the Amazon page and what the cover designer thinks is her best work seldom end up being one in the same. That said - I'm always happy to provide clients with links to cover designs that are currently selling. But it's a hard reality of design - what the client wants and what the artistic integrity is are a lot of the time different.



Now - as for going the cheap route (heh). You really do get what you pay for.
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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2017, 04:40:20 PM »
Here's the thing: what ends up on the Amazon page and what the cover designer thinks is her best work seldom end up being one in the same. That said - I'm always happy to provide clients with links to cover designs that are currently selling. But it's a hard reality of design - what the client wants and what the artistic integrity is are a lot of the time different.



Now - as for going the cheap route (heh). You really do get what you pay for.

There are some amazing designers out there charging $100-$300 for covers on a par of those charging $500-$800 so price alone doesn't determine the quality of the work. I've seen designers asking for $500+ for a cover and I wonder what they're smoking. Sometimes a designer is starting out and their price begins to increase as they get busier.

And now that Fiverr lets the scammers charge way more than five bucks, you have a lot of them charging $100-$300, that doesn't make them automatically make them a quality or legit designer so it's incredulous to suggest that a designer that charges $400 is better than one that charges $200.

Personally, I wouldn't touch Fiverr with a ten-foot pole when it comes to book cover, but we all have budgets to work with so just because I go "cheap" doesn't mean I'll end up with a cheap/crappy cover.


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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2017, 07:12:26 AM »
Coming to this discussion from the Artists/Cover designers side,
I'd like to throw a few things out there.

I would think the book cover I'm commissioning is a pretty important thing, I think we can all agree on the importance of that first impression it's going to give to readers.

That said, do you really want to go on the cheap end for that? Do you really want to go to the bargain bin for the book you spent so much time creating? If so, then I suppose Fivrr is for you.

Essentially Fivrr and sites like it, have been a major speed bump for Artists such as myself in the United States. I don't want to turn this into any sort of pity party, so I will just leave it as, We artists in the United States (and some other countries) cannot compete with the prices of asian artists, Period. The cost/value of a book cover has changed, and changed for the worse, and you can see that easily on the bookshelves.

So I would just suggest to you commissioning authors, to consider the importance of quality in your book cover commissions.
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good Fiverr Book Cover Artist?
« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2017, 08:53:03 AM »
I got  mine with Rebecacovers . I made some changes with the typography on my name, and changed the background, but it's similar to the one I gave her. The work on the title typography is all hers. https://www.fiverr.com/rebecacovers

Just be sure you know what you want and choose a good photo.

This is my cover, if you want to take a look, since I don't have a sig.

https://www.amazon.com/Karinas-Silver-Denise-Marques-Leitao-ebook/dp/B074T8RFWX

Based on quality and style, i'd guess that the covers on her portfolio are designer by her.

Another good one is germancreative

But you need to know a bit what you want, since you need to pick the photo, and maybe show some covers for inspiration and to explain the style you want.
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