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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #100 on: November 09, 2017, 04:02:16 PM »
hello - has anyone noticed that the e-ink on the newest 2017 oasis is rather light, in comparison to the voyage?

i have the older oasis at home as well, so i will compare later when i get the chance.

but man it's been like russian roulette with these devices. idk how many returns and refurbs i've done trying to get that perfect kindle

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i just got off the phone with amazon kindle support - he says their specialists says that this is the intended design  :( hazy gray ink?? ??

Yes, and sadly I returned my new Oasis primarily for that reason. Initially I thought that making the bold 1+ would resolve the issue, but in my opinion that made the text a little less sharp. The bottom line is that I prefer the whiter screen and better contrast on my Voyage. I also prefer the Origami case which doesn't tilt downward when more relaxed as I often read while eating. While I couldn't see shadows or lights on the side with the LCDs, my Oasis did have a color shift with it being darker on the side without the LEDS and it was noticeable on every line. I really wanted to love the new Oasis and I did love the bigger screen and the page turning buttons, but for me the clarity and contrast of the screen is by far the most important feature. I will continue with my Voyage and am not going to try another Oasis this year.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #101 on: November 09, 2017, 06:50:30 PM »
I returned mine as well.  Yes, the text seemed more faded than my Voyage.  I wasn't a fan of the slippery metal, either.  But what finally pushed me over the edge was the screen being darker on the left side than it was on the right.  I opted to just return it and not ask for a replacement.  I'm pretty happy with the Voyage anyway.  And it fits in my Oberon sleeve!   :D
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2017, 07:48:01 PM »
I returned mine as well.  Yes, the text seemed more faded than my Voyage.  I wasn't a fan of the slippery metal, either.  But what finally pushed me over the edge was the screen being darker on the left side than it was on the right.  I opted to just return it and not ask for a replacement.  I'm pretty happy with the Voyage anyway.  And it fits in my Oberon sleeve!   :D

On the new Oasis, I notice the left side right side light difference less than I did on the older Oasis. Voyage is my favorite shape and form factor but the lighting on three of four of them didn't work for me. Whatever lighting works best for you, go for it. Good for us all to have options.
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2017, 03:39:49 AM »
I've noticed no difference between my Voyage, Oasis16, and Oasis17 when on identical light and font settings. The only difference is there's more words on a page with the O17 -- because the screen is bigger.

But this is the sort of thing that is VERY subjective! :)

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2017, 09:06:56 AM »
I've noticed no difference between my Voyage, Oasis16, and Oasis17 when on identical light and font settings. The only difference is there's more words on a page with the O17 -- because the screen is bigger.

But this is the sort of thing that is VERY subjective! :)

Yeah, unless you lay them out like soldiers, and stare at them, one doesn't notice a real difference. And then some of that can be the room light falling on them differently as they laid out. Now when I say put them on bold 1, bookerly, all 3 look almost the same. They now have a similar software. O2 of course has one further up for the other features.

But what is important is how one feels about it. Pictures never show e-ink very well. If it bugs you and you can't read on it, then of course its not a good keep. But I always say try not to obsess and constantly compare to the other ones you have. I am pretty sure we all can only read one at the same time.  ;D.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2017, 12:16:58 PM »
FWIW e-ink screens have big unit to unit differences in things like darkness, sharpness and contrast (my signature even has some older comparisons).

Of course the frontlights also have differences between units and models. Voyage has a top to down gradient, while Oasis has a left to right gradient due to the LED placement. Individual units may also have differences based on LED quality and placement etc.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2017, 12:34:20 PM »
I returned mine as well.  Yes, the text seemed more faded than my Voyage.  I wasn't a fan of the slippery metal, either.  But what finally pushed me over the edge was the screen being darker on the left side than it was on the right.  I opted to just return it and not ask for a replacement.  I'm pretty happy with the Voyage anyway.  And it fits in my Oberon sleeve!   :D
   I was so excited to get the new Oasis as I've not bought a new kindle since my Paperwhite.....but sadly I also returned mine today.....too steep a lighting gradient between the thicker and thinner side of the reader.  The thicker side was bright, the background whiter and the text sharper appearing.  The thinner side was darker and yellower making the text not as crisp.   I'm wondering if I had a lemon or if its just my eyes??  My Paperwhite (2015) is my main reader and fortunately the screen lighting is very even and the text dark and crisp.    Wondering if anyone has had a similar experience that has received a replacement that is better?  I'm still holding out hope that another one might be better.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2017, 03:59:11 PM »
FWIW e-ink screens have big unit to unit differences in things like darkness, sharpness and contrast (my signature even has some older comparisons).

Of course the frontlights also have differences between units and models. Voyage has a top to down gradient, while Oasis has a left to right gradient due to the LED placement. Individual units may also have differences based on LED quality and placement etc.

Very true. Nice brief summary of it. That top down gradient of the Voyage killed me. The left right of the Oasis models seem to be getting more reaction.

cjonthehill. My advice is that it sometimes gives you peace of mind getting your eyes on 2 or 3 of the same model if you have the energy then making your decision to keep or to go back to a better reader for you. If the energy seems too much of a hassle, and you already have one with great lighting, keep on reading with it.
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2017, 05:48:56 PM »
I was just wondering if - settings - accessibility - display size - large, to put on the battery %, caused my kindle to use more of the battery? I thought that my battery went down further, but not sure. Anyone notice this happening?
I like the Oasis 1 hand grasp better on the case. On the new Oasis, its too wide. I have small hands. The rest that I tried out so far, I really like. Bolder texts, white texts on black, which I usually puse at night. More words on a page. I can use a smaller font, because of the boldness, which also means more words on a page. I like the buttons. The kindles snappier. I love it that I open the cover & withing a few seconds the home page appears. I dont have SO, because that was my only choice when ordering. It was well worth the extra $20. In the Oasis 1, i had to wait for it to start, then swipe. The voyage, swiping maybe more than once. Plus, the Voyage would skip multiple pages - swiping or pressing the case.
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2017, 06:16:36 PM »
don't be afraid to call , just insist on a replacement, I tried all the usual things wiping it clean and just put the one book on but it started to again drain too fast. They took your mom's $ make sure its right. I cannot accept anything less for any price...so please don't take my situation wrong. You have to be your own best advocate...


Thank you for the kind words! I did end up calling them last night. The first rep that I spoke with wanted me to restart the Kindle and then monitor the battery life for 24 to 48 hours. I asked to talk to tech support and that rep quickly offered a replacement. It should arrive on Sunday. Fingers crossed that it goes better than this one.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2017, 06:16:52 PM »
I think that my Oasis 2 font is the same as my Voyage, but I have not looked at them side by side.

I have noticed that the screen is much sharper/clearer when I am reading on the train in bright light compared with reading in bed with only a small lamp on.  When reading in the bedroom, I am more conscious of the light on the screen and it seems slightly milky. It's OK though.
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2017, 10:52:01 PM »
I bought the 32 GB.  If your going to listen to audio books, it is definitely worth it. They take up a lot of space.  I have never done that, so not sure it was.  Im never going to run out of space for books.  It will hold thousands.  I didnt spring for the 3G.  I did that on my first Oasis and Voyage but have never used it.

I find kindles kind of a chore to wade through alot of books put on it, are you finding that a challange ?

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2017, 11:39:37 PM »


Thank you for the kind words! I did end up calling them last night. The first rep that I spoke with wanted me to restart the Kindle and then monitor the battery life for 24 to 48 hours. I asked to talk to tech support and that rep quickly offered a replacement. It should arrive on Sunday. Fingers crossed that it goes better than this one.

good going, mine comes today , lets hope we both end up with a good one   :D
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2017, 06:46:20 AM »
   I was so excited to get the new Oasis as I've not bought a new kindle since my Paperwhite.....but sadly I also returned mine today.....too steep a lighting gradient between the thicker and thinner side of the reader.  The thicker side was bright, the background whiter and the text sharper appearing.  The thinner side was darker and yellower making the text not as crisp.   I'm wondering if I had a lemon or if its just my eyes??  My Paperwhite (2015) is my main reader and fortunately the screen lighting is very even and the text dark and crisp.    Wondering if anyone has had a similar experience that has received a replacement that is better?  I'm still holding out hope that another one might be better.

All of the latest three Kindles (Voyage and Oasises) have had gradients from yellow to whiter. Voyage top-down, Oasis 1 and 2 sideways.

This has been much discussed.

Some don't see it, and there are some unit-to-unit differences quite likely, but overall it is a feature.

I agree there is more getting used to it on the Oasis because the gradient is evident on every like when you move your eye from end of line to the beginning of the next line.

On the Voyage the gradient is thus less pronounced, because you don't see it while reading every line.

Paperwhites have suffered more about unevenness issues and splotchiness over their "career", but not so much from a clear gradient.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #114 on: November 12, 2017, 11:06:26 AM »
Finally got mine after much waffling and reading all the input on this thread. thank you for all of your comments and experiences!

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- bought mine through Amazon Prime Now. based on what i found on Reddit, i became aware that they often have several models available there immediately.
(also, when i was at the Amazon Book store in San Jose last weekend, the staff told me they had all models in stock with a range of 2-8 in quantity, but i wasn't ready to pull the trigger at that point. but if you have a pop up store near you, that might be a faster way to get a new Oasis too)
- as suggested somewhere else, i also initiating a chat session asking if they could transfer my "special offers removed" from my Paperwhite. the rep said they would make a one time exception for me being a loyal customer, and removed the special offers on my Oasis while keeping them off of my PW as well!

First impressions:

Good:
- no splotches or cones on this screen nor pinholes, etc. i had to go through 3 PWs to get the one i currently have, and in comparison the Oasis is still significantly better than my PW3 in this regard. the PW3 was acceptable, but now in comparison, i can see the obvious improvement. the screen is beautiful.
- new font options without using RAMP kludge (of course this is on the PW3 too but i like this enhancement ... i haven't found the use of the bold options yet, but i may explore them with other fonts beyond Bookerly at some point)
- the screen size increase is probably the most surprising benefit. i didn't think going up 1" would be that big a deal. this is the tied for the biggest benefit with the clean background relative to my PW3.
- construction with aluminum: i don't have an issues with the edges being too sharp although i would agree they could have rounded things more (see apple devices). but the device feels very solid and well built. and thankfully, the "cold touch" doesn't bother this guy with generally very warm hands.

Bad/Ugly:
- slight gradient in light intensity diminishing from thick side to thin side and a very very slight yellowing tint emerges in certain scenarios on the furthest edge on the thin side. honestly, for me, i'm on the borderline OCD here...i probably wouldn't have noticed it if i hadn't been looking for it (and read about it on the web :\) . and because it's all subjective and variable from unit to unit, i think its hard to measure by photograph and comparing with others on the web. the only way to come up with a somewhat objective comparison is to look at several units side by side in person with other folks on the forum (which is not possible). i think the acceptability of this will be in the eye of the beholder.  interestingly, i do see that this gradient white to yellow is more evident in dim lighting than during daytime nor in complete darkness (the latter is how i typically read).  it may have to do with the way our home's family room lighting is that causes the issue to be more prevalent.
- "Waking up" ... this is really annoying and a surprising change coming from my PW3 which for all intents and purposes comes up instantly when i open my cover or hit the "power button" (i usually keep my PW3 out of case at home and i don't have a case for the Oasis yet). did they implement a more aggressive power saving mode for the Oasis? i will ultimately come to live with this, but i am hoping that maybe that this long delay can be fixed/improved in a future firmware update.
- the jury is still out on comfort holding it in bed. and this is a big concern for me.  i posted a couple weeks ago asking about how people hold it. i read on my back in bed and then hold the kindle over my head. not completely over my head, but sort of at an angle maybe over my neck/upper chest. last night, i couldn't really find a very comfortable way to hold the device, especially to make use of the page turning buttons. time will tell, but right now, this is perhaps my biggest sticking point.

this comfort issue is  sticking point that may lead me to return the Oasis  is if i can't find a comfortable way to hold it. i think i'll just have to try using it and see if i can come up with a good grip that works for lying in bed. (reading in chair at a table isn't an issue). i had long been interested in the original Oasis for its ridiculously light weight, but all the issues with very uneven lighting and cone effects both written about here and in other forums and a couple i saw on display kept me from dropping $290 on one. i did see Amazon occasionally has refurbished ones for sale for $199 from time to time. it might be worth trying one of those out to see if i get lucky for the lighting issue.

(aside: i typically hold my PW3 with one hand forming an L with my thumb and pointer finger and then rest the other three fingers behind...it works, but i often have to switch my hands due to fatigue. i was hoping to avoid this fatigue or discomfort with the Oasis and it's asymmetric balance)

on the flip side, the Oasis 2 is a winner for me just by virtue of the bigger screen. i was surprised to be wowed by that difference, but it's huge. of course, maybe that is coming at the cost of finding a comfortable grip/balance in my hand.

time will tell... i am willing to give this a shot for a few more days, if not a couple of weeks, but i need to figure out how to hold it comfortably. if so, then i think i can live with the small color/brightness gradient. even with that gradient, i would say the screen is superior to my PW3 (without even considering the bigger screen size). but of course at the price difference, it better be a nicer screen...

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #115 on: November 12, 2017, 11:57:38 AM »
@derek87, I cannot lay down and read for more than 20-30 minutes.  I lay on my right side and hold the Oasis2 with my right hand.  The corner sits in my palm with three fingers behind it, little finger on the bottom, and thumb between the buttons or lightly resting on the top button.  This allows me to easily turn the pages with a slight press.  If I take longer to start yawning I can switch to the other side.  I did add a decal to the back so it would not feel quite as slippery.
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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #116 on: November 12, 2017, 03:38:30 PM »
Finally got mine after much waffling and reading all the input on this thread. thank you for all of your comments and experiences!

Buying tips/experiences:
- bought mine through Amazon Prime Now. based on what i found on Reddit, i became aware that they often have several models available there immediately.
(also, when i was at the Amazon Book store in San Jose last weekend, the staff told me they had all models in stock with a range of 2-8 in quantity, but i wasn't ready to pull the trigger at that point. but if you have a pop up store near you, that might be a faster way to get a new Oasis too)
- as suggested somewhere else, i also initiating a chat session asking if they could transfer my "special offers removed" from my Paperwhite. the rep said they would make a one time exception for me being a loyal customer, and removed the special offers on my Oasis while keeping them off of my PW as well!

First impressions:

Good:
- no splotches or cones on this screen nor pinholes, etc. i had to go through 3 PWs to get the one i currently have, and in comparison the Oasis is still significantly better than my PW3 in this regard. the PW3 was acceptable, but now in comparison, i can see the obvious improvement. the screen is beautiful.

Bad/Ugly:
- slight gradient in light intensity diminishing from thick side to thin side and a very very slight yellowing tint emerges in certain scenarios on the furthest edge on the thin side.

Nice review. It seems like more people are noticing that left right intensity on the Oasis 2 more than the first one (which affected me more). I see it on the O2 but it's not bothersome because the light is so smooth vs generations in the past. Very happy to hear you found a good one you like. The Oasis 2 bigger screen is really great. I use the inverted text in the dark and it's such a great reading experience (hopefuly they bring this feature to the Oasis 1).
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« Reply #117 on: November 12, 2017, 07:57:18 PM »
Got mine today and I am very pleased! The larger screen is really fantastic and I love the lightness and thinness. I find it much more pleasant to read than my previous Oasis.
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« Reply #118 on: November 13, 2017, 12:33:01 AM »
What is inverted text?

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« Reply #119 on: November 13, 2017, 02:24:41 AM »
 Black screen with white text.  I like it to at night a lot!

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« Reply #120 on: November 13, 2017, 07:22:43 AM »
White text on black background.
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« Reply #121 on: November 13, 2017, 08:51:19 AM »
@derek87, I cannot lay down and read for more than 20-30 minutes.  I lay on my right side and hold the Oasis2 with my right hand.  The corner sits in my palm with three fingers behind it, little finger on the bottom, and thumb between the buttons or lightly resting on the top button.  This allows me to easily turn the pages with a slight press.  If I take longer to start yawning I can switch to the other side.  I did add a decal to the back so it would not feel quite as slippery.

thanks for your sharing your experience. i tried a lot of different things yesterday and within 10-15 minutes, i found my hand sore from trying to hold the KO2 (and i used both hands). i actually have not had an issue with it being slippery or cold. the only thing i can think of is that i am gripping it harder than i would need to if the surface weren't slick. yet,  i don't think that's really the case because i tried to use a very relaxed grip, and tried reading during a few different sessions.

bottom line (and sadly), even though it is lighter than my PW3, i makes my hand hurts to read lying in bed in comparison. while the PW3 isn't super comfortable, i've never found my had aching even if i read over an hour. i might switch hands occasionally (like i was sick and reading for a few hours), but never had this sort of problem.
it really comes a surprise to me as i thought the asymmetric design and larger side bezel would provide a better holding option and make my lying in bed reading more comfortable, but it didn't: it actually made things worse.

so i'm sad to say that i think i'm going to return it even though i will definitely miss the 7" ultra clean white screen. in a fit of spontaneity, i ordered a refurbished Oasis 1 this morning. i'm a little concerned that i may be rolling the dice with screen quality control issues such as gradient issues and cones of light, especially on a refurbished device that have been returned by another picky previous user. yet, i ordered it in the hope that somehow by dropping the weight down to 4 oz, i'll find the asymmetric design is much more comfortable with the weight being so low. the spec'd 2 hour read time without case isn't an issue for me as long as it is comfortable to hold. if not, i guess it will be back to the PW3 or at some point a Voyage (which i actually realized is not just a smidge lighter but a couple mm narrower too)

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #122 on: November 13, 2017, 01:09:54 PM »
Black screen with white text.  I like it to at night a lot!
How do you get it? I have the first Oasis.

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« Reply #123 on: November 13, 2017, 01:53:17 PM »
How do you get it? I have the first Oasis.

It's only on the Oasis17 so far . . . word is it may be coming to the Oasis16, Voyage, and most recent PW, but no word on when.

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Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« Reply #124 on: November 13, 2017, 02:52:17 PM »
It's only on the Oasis17 so far . . . word is it may be coming to the Oasis16, Voyage, and most recent PW, but no word on when.
Thanks Ann