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A ruthless murder and a stolen shipment of gold.

At school, sixteen-year-old Nikaia Wales endures the taunts of bullies who call her a “half-breed.” At home, she worries about how her family will react if she reveals her growing feelings for the quiet boy next door.

Those are soon the least of her troubles. Nikaia discovers a hidden cache of gold, and when police find a corpse nearby, her father becomes a suspect. Worse, Elias Doyle is circling, hungry to avenge his brother’s death.

Nikaia desperately searches for clues to save her father. In her quest to find the killer, she learns about the power of family, friendship, and young love....

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« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2017, 08:11:46 AM »
Apostrophe abuse. It's  E V E R Y W H E R E. *cries*

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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2017, 08:21:53 AM »
Using "begs the question" instead of "raises the question"

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« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2017, 08:23:03 AM »
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faze, phase
find, fined
waive, wave
there, their, they're


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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2017, 09:06:54 AM »
Apostrophe abuse. It's  E V E R Y W H E R E. *cries*


Dave Barry once wrote a column about grammar and punctuation. I will never forget him saying, "The purpose of the apostrophe is to signal the impending arrival of an 's'."

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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2017, 09:09:27 AM »
"Tortuous" vs "torturous"
Using "loan" in place of "lend" (especially in reference to things, not money)
"Free reign"
"Predominately"
To "rack" one's brain
Confusing "less" with "fewer"
"Pre-existing" conditions


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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2017, 09:15:55 AM »
Correct: Tom went along with me and Joe.

Not correct: Tom went along with Joe and I.

Rule of thumb; remove the other person from the sentence to find which is correct.
Tom went along with me.
Tom went along with I.
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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2017, 09:30:23 AM »
I'm dyslexic. The OP's first example "Yay or yae" threw me for a loop. It took me so long to figure it out, I think I'm skipping this thread.


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« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2017, 09:34:46 AM »
I had a reader take me to task for using 'snuck' instead of 'sneaked'. According to every online resource I've looked at since I received the complaint, either one is acceptable.

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« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2017, 09:39:27 AM »
I had a reader take me to task for using 'snuck' instead of 'sneaked'. According to every online resource I've looked at since I received the complaint, either one is acceptable.

No, Gene. The only acceptable usage is what I think is correct, whether I'm write or knot. :D

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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2017, 09:40:42 AM »
I had a reader take me to task for using 'snuck' instead of 'sneaked'. According to every online resource I've looked at since I received the complaint, either one is acceptable.

I'll use sneaked in place of snuck after I'm dead, thanks very much. :-) (Yeah, probably not. Because I'll be dead!)

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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2017, 09:54:07 AM »
Correct: Tom went along with me and Joe.

Not correct: Tom went along with Joe and I.

Rule of thumb; remove the other person from the sentence to find which is correct.
Tom went along with me.
Tom went along with I.

I would have told my children your first example is still incorrect because I was always taught "you put yourself last".  It also avoids sounding like you are calling your companion mean when saying it aloud and running "me and" together. Maybe that was an etiquette rule instead of a grammar rule?

Correct:  Tom went along with Joe and me.

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« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2017, 10:32:24 AM »
It's a boxed set. Not a box set. I have enough boxes, I don't need a set.


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« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2017, 10:41:47 AM »
I would have told my children your first example is still incorrect because I was always taught "you put yourself last".  It also avoids sounding like you are calling your companion mean when saying it aloud and running "me and" together. Maybe that was an etiquette rule instead of a grammar rule?

Correct:  Tom went along with Joe and me.



Agree with crebel. That's how I was taught as well.

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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2017, 10:52:33 AM »
I was asked by a new writer on a facebook group to edit her book. She went off in a strop!

I find this mainly happens (happened, as I no longer edit--writing novels pays more) when the author doesn't pay for the edit. Advice tends to be worth what you pay for it.

So, IMO, always charge money, even if it's not as much as it's worth.

I use "awhile" all the time in a context like this: Has he been sleeping awhile?

Depends on what you mean to convey here. You probably know this, but for others:

"Has he been sleeping awhile" means "has he been sleeping for a short time," as "awhile" is an adverb.

"He has been sleeping (for) a while," with the "for" understood (omitted), means "for a period of time," as "a while" is a noun phrase, and tends to imply a longer period of time.

This may help clarify it: "Man, that guy's really been sleeping awhile" makes no sense, as the interjection and intensifier strongly imply a long time, whereas "awhile" means a short time. "Man, that guy's really been sleeping for a while" is correct, and many people drop the "for" in conversation.

Who is hurling them across their handlebars? Or are they simply bad riders who pedaled madly into a tree?


Don't you mean "peddling" into a tree?  :P Those trees need their knickknacks too, after all. It's not as if they can just go to Wal-Mart whenever they wish.

Just spotted another one:   "rack and ruin"   when it should be    "wrack and ruin"

Sadly, when I put "wrack" in for definition, Google's definition said it was a variant of "rack" or torture. Nope.

And then we wonder why so many get it wrong.

Not wrong, just different, according to M-W--though my gut feeling agrees with you.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/rack-vs-wrack


"Pre-existing" conditions

Nothing wrong with that, if you're using Commonwealth English.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pre-exist

American convention is, of course, "preexisting."

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/preexisting

It's a boxed set. Not a box set. I have enough boxes, I don't need a set.

Either is acceptable. I actually found far more solid references from dictionaries to "box set" than "boxed set."

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/box-set

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/boxed+set

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« Reply #114 on: November 05, 2017, 11:21:40 AM »
It's a boxed set. Not a box set. I have enough boxes, I don't need a set.

I'd rather read books that come in a set of boxes or resemble one than the ones that have been boxed together. Poor things. I can almost feel them being squashed and bruised. :P It's not like they come in an actual box, so no need to use the ugly, violent-sounding term since both are acceptable. I think someone said it should be an omnibus, but my books would get lost on a bus, so...  8) Box sets forever!
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« Reply #115 on: November 05, 2017, 11:32:58 AM »
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Don't you mean "peddling" into a tree?  :P Those trees need their knickknacks too, after all. It's not as if they can just go to Wal-Mart whenever they wish.

I should be petaling if you're using flowery prose.

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« Reply #116 on: November 05, 2017, 11:34:19 AM »
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Don't you mean "peddling" into a tree?  :P Those trees need their knickknacks too, after all. It's not as if they can just go to Wal-Mart whenever they wish.

 :P  Actually, tongue in cheek, I'd meant to put "petal", since I see that error every now and then, but I can't even spell write when Im wrong!   :P

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American convention is, of course, "preexisting."

Hmmm...To me, that seems awfully hard to read.

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« Reply #117 on: November 05, 2017, 11:44:23 AM »
So fun instead of such fun.
Real good instead of really good.
Drive safe instead of drive safely (debatable?).

Unfortunately, these seem to have become acceptable.

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« Reply #118 on: November 05, 2017, 11:51:03 AM »
"I feel badly" for you.  Sometimes a good grope just doesn't work.

Actually, that one's becoming more acceptable as an adjective in informal speech, but it still feels wrong to me.

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« Reply #119 on: November 05, 2017, 11:57:06 AM »
"I feel badly" for you.  Sometimes a good grope just doesn't work.

Actually, that one's becoming more acceptable as an adjective in informal speech, but it still feels wrong to me.


That's a good one!  I always respond with "I'm so sorry your sense of touch is impaired."   ::)
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« Reply #120 on: November 05, 2017, 12:02:09 PM »
I've been seeing this one in a lot of fanfics recently chest of draws when it should be chest of drawers!

hale/hail

vale/veil

And I get very annoyed when a book is set in Britain but the characters go to the gas station instead of petrol station, or walk in the sidewalk instead of pavement, walk down the block instead of street etc. It brings me right out of the story.


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« Reply #121 on: November 05, 2017, 12:05:25 PM »
Here's one I saw recently. Graveyards are eary, instead of eerie.. Have to admit, that one through me!  ;D
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« Reply #122 on: November 05, 2017, 12:14:58 PM »
I have read "hew" several times recently when the proper word is "hue".  One was a newspaper article about the "hew and cry of the crowd".  The other was just read yesterday in a historical romance, "... the crimson hew of her dress ..."  Ugh.
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« Reply #123 on: November 05, 2017, 12:19:26 PM »
How about prison v. jail? I can't tell you how many times I hear people say "The United States has more people in jail than any other country." Uh, no, they have more people in prison, not jail. Jail = the place where you go if you're serving time (less than one year) for a misdemeanor or you are awaiting trial. Prison = the penitentiary  That's where you go when you've committed a felony and you're serving hard time.

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« Reply #124 on: November 05, 2017, 12:21:34 PM »
One thing I did that I was unaware of is the needed brushed, needed repaired, etc., construction. I had no idea this was incorrect. It sounds fine to me, but should be needs "to be" whatever instead. My brief research told me it's a dialect feature, but I don't have any connection to the region it was attributed to, so who knows.

I think of the southern US or places in Pennsylvania when I see a sentence that says needed brushed or something similar. I grew up near Chicago and still live in the area. Needed brushed sounds odd to me. It's not something I would ever write or say. I would say, needs brushing or needed to be brushed.

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