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A ruthless murder and a stolen shipment of gold.

At school, sixteen-year-old Nikaia Wales endures the taunts of bullies who call her a “half-breed.” At home, she worries about how her family will react if she reveals her growing feelings for the quiet boy next door.

Those are soon the least of her troubles. Nikaia discovers a hidden cache of gold, and when police find a corpse nearby, her father becomes a suspect. Worse, Elias Doyle is circling, hungry to avenge his brother’s death.

Nikaia desperately searches for clues to save her father. In her quest to find the killer, she learns about the power of family, friendship, and young love....

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2017, 02:51:43 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2017, 02:54:08 AM »
I remember transferring universities long ago and not having my basic English credit counted even though the 4000 level English courses were fine, so I took the class at a community college after work. One of the other people in the class asked me to look over all of his papers for him before he turned them in, and being a nice person*, I said sure. It went well for the first two, but on his third paper I crossed out "beckon call" and wrote "beck and call" next to it and it was like I had insulted his mother and told him Santa Claus wasn't real and his goldfish had died all in one.

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Re: For heaven's sake, people, you're authors.
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2017, 02:54:37 AM »
You can lead a horse to water, but you led him away later (not lead him away).
I see this error so often in newspapers and magazines that I'm getting the impression that 'led' has fallen out of use  ::)

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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2017, 02:55:52 AM »
"Could care less"  :-X


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Yep. And 'I missed not having...' I missed having would be the way; the other is just the opposite.


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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2017, 02:56:58 AM »
"Could care less"  :-X


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As a small child I always used to say "I could care less.... but I'm not sure how." It seemed to have a visceral reaction with a lot of people (though it made sense in my head), so I've stopped saying it as an adult.

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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2017, 02:57:29 AM »
I remember transferring universities long ago and not having my basic English credit counted even though the 4000 level English courses were fine, so I took the class at a community college after work. One of the other people in the class asked me to look over all of his papers for him before he turned them in, and being a nice person*, I said sure. It went well for the first two, but on his third paper I crossed out "beckon call" and wrote "beck and call" next to it and it was like I had insulted his mother and told him Santa Claus wasn't real and his goldfish had died all in one.
I was asked by a new writer on a facebook group to edit her book. She went off in a strop!


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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2017, 02:58:12 AM »
As a small child I always used to say "I could care less.... but I'm not sure how." It seemed to have a visceral reaction with a lot of people (though it made sense in my head), so I've stopped saying it as an adult.
That actually does make sense if you use the whole sentence. Never heard it before.


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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2017, 03:01:59 AM »
Please don't let the bride walk up the isle, people.

As for off of, it's colloquial American, so I don't want to see it in a Regency romance, thank you very much.
   

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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2017, 03:15:55 AM »
Please don't let the bride walk up the isle, people.

As for off of, it's colloquial American, so I don't want to see it in a Regency romance, thank you very much.
I think that comes under historical inaccuracy. I can't stand stories set in medieval times with modern names and people talking about having sex and other modern phrases. Oh, and a book where every man with a title lives in a castle.


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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2017, 03:36:07 AM »
"Off of" is repeating yourself, as the "of" is already by implication included in the "off."

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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2017, 03:58:10 AM »
Some of the more common ones I see are old favourites like mixing up-
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2017, 04:00:29 AM »
Some of the more common ones I see are old favourites like mixing up-
There, their, and they're.
Choose/chose
Loose/lose
Who's/whose
Peel/peal


I see loose instead of lose more times than I care to remember. But one that gets me is woman which is often mispelt as women or the other way round. Yet the writer knows man and men so I say, it is man with a womb.


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Do Americans really say, "He dove into the swimming pool"?

Seems really odd to me.

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Do Americans really say, "He dove into the swimming pool"?
Seems really odd to me.
He dove in to rescue the bar of Dove soap that dove out of his hands.  :o :D

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Do Americans really say, "He dove into the swimming pool"?

Seems really odd to me.
I've never heard anyone say that. I would say dived in, but then I'm a Londoner!


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Your going to have to bare with me, it takes alot of thought to remember all the wons that irritate me. There out their, but I'm not to good at recalling all of them. My brain is lose, and stuff falls out. But this thread has peeked my interest so I'm going too try too remember more.
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I've just read about the exuberant prices people are charging.  :D

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« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2017, 05:47:09 AM »
Do Americans really say, "He dove into the swimming pool"?

Seems really odd to me.

Yes, but it sorta goes both ways in the US depending on where you're at. It's like how "leapt" sounds normal, but "leaped" isn't something you'd never hear. "He dove in after his cell phone" sounds normal to me, but so is "Yesterday, when he dived in after his phone, he forgot his Kindle was in his back pocket." I think Grammar Girl or someone talked about it, but irregular past tenses have had a resurgence in the US, including some words that didn't originally have irregular past tenses. And again, depending on which section of which city in which state you live in, dove/dived could sound completely wrong. "Sneaked" for "snuck" is another one that sounds so wrong every time I hear it, but I check every irregular past tense so I know it's something that's common. I'm sure somewhere out there is an exciting map of all the words and how two cities side-by-side use different words for every thing.

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« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2017, 05:50:15 AM »
For some reason, I see this a lot, especially in real estate ads, but in other text also: "dinning table," instead of dining table.

"very unique." This drives me crazy. Something is either one-of-a-kind or it isn't.

This drives me crazier: She gave the money to "Judy and I." No, she gave the money to "Judy and me."

But then I live in Eastern Massachusetts, where we spell the plural of roof correctly, but pronounce it "rooves," (because the plural of hoof is hooves.) We also use leapt and dove.

I use "awhile" all the time in a context like this: Has he been sleeping awhile?

ETA: In Massachusetts, we also use "snuck" instead of sneaked. I like snuck; it sounds sneakier.

I almost forgot the error that makes me the craziest person: confusion between "farther" and "further." Farther always refers to physical distance.


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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2017, 05:51:16 AM »
"should of" instead of should have.

this makes me nuts.

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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2017, 05:54:34 AM »
Do Americans really say, "He dove into the swimming pool"?

Seems really odd to me.

I've had one copy editor correct my "dived" to "dove" for 2 or 3 novels and when I had to use a different one she altered all my "dove" verbs to "dived."

Apparently "dove" is more commonly used in northern quarter of the United States with "dived" preferred almost everywhere else, and internationally. Both are technically correct but I prefer "dived." I haven't gone back to change everything previously, though. I may do one day.
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