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« on: December 26, 2017, 05:16:42 PM »
i'm looking for other authors in my genre for collaboration, newsletter swaps and idea sharing. i find that so much of promotion is genre dependent and figuring out what works requires comparing apples to apples (not lit fic to sci fi.)

no offense to writers of romance- it just isn't women's fiction. not arguing one is better or worse, just that they are different.

i'm talking ann packer, celeste ng, julia glass, nicole krauss, sue miller, jennifer egan, jodi picoult, lauren groff, j courtney sullivan, deb caletti, jennifer weiner, ayelet waldman, jennifer haigh, elizabeth berg...

where are my people?

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2017, 06:02:44 PM »
I would say, please count me in! Except I don't think I'd be much use to you. I'm just starting out too and know nothing. But I have to say, I love all the authors you mentioned. I also see that you write in the present tense. I've read here that a lot of people hate this style. A shock to me. To each their own. I love it and use it when the story calls for it. So a nod to you on that as well. :) Hope you get a lot of members.

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 06:19:39 PM »
Here! :)

I'm always happy to find another women's lit indie! So many in our genre are traditionally published, it can feel very alienating sometimes.

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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2017, 07:57:38 PM »
I would say, please count me in! Except I don't think I'd be much use to you. I'm just starting out too and know nothing. But I have to say, I love all the authors you mentioned. I also see that you write in the present tense. I've read here that a lot of people hate this style. A shock to me. To each their own. I love it and use it when the story calls for it. So a nod to you on that as well. :) Hope you get a lot of members.
that's cool. we were all starting out once. maybe we can brew something up together as a group.

how  new are you? got a book out? a newsletter? ever paid for online advertising?

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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2017, 08:01:56 PM »
Here! :)

I'm always happy to find another women's lit indie! So many in our genre are traditionally published, it can feel very alienating sometimes.
so true.. i consider myself hybrid.  my first book was traditionally published, i have another with kindle scout and two on my own. can you recommend any indies  in our genre?

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2017, 08:48:56 PM »
You might want to check out Suanne Laqueur, an awesome client of mine:

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Re: women's literary fiction, NOT romance
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2017, 09:12:02 PM »
Hi Katie78,
I've written a couple of novels that are in your genre. Lately, I've been concentrating on nonfiction. However, I'd be happy to be part of a newsletter swap or anything else.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2017, 12:09:15 AM »
I write romance, but, I like to read the kind of books you write, OP, so I thought I'd let you know I just added Finding Charlie to my To Read in KU list. Good luck!

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2017, 03:44:45 AM »
I presume Chick Lit doesnt fall into this category?

If not, all the best luck to you! X

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2017, 06:45:19 AM »
that's cool. we were all starting out once. maybe we can brew something up together as a group.

how  new are you? got a book out? a newsletter? ever paid for online advertising?

I do have a book out, which is over a year old. So maybe I'm newish? Although I don't know how many years you have to rack up before you can say you're a seasoned author. I don't have a newsletter unfortunately. Like I said, probably little use to you. I work full time and my job is all consuming. I barely have time to write. But I do pay for online advertising. Not sure how much blood you can squeeze out of me, but if you think you can. I'm a willing participant.

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2017, 06:52:46 AM »
I'd love to participate. My books all fit into that category, with the possible exception of the first, which could also be classified as historical fiction. 

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2017, 07:05:11 AM »
I write of love, (crime, betrayal, resilience, coming-of-age, and love) but not romance.
I can relate well to stories by Jodi Picoult.
I have similar themes, but I don't class my work as Women's fiction, as it's not written for women, and my books are equally read and enjoyed by men. The work tends to be rural, rather than urban, and outdoors, rather than domestic.
So, while again I'd say I tell a mainstream or literary story, as I consider Jodie Picault does, and I enjoy good networking, I can't classify my work as women's fiction. But, keep me in mind. I have popular blogs (not book blogs) and consider reader interest submissions.
I ran historical fiction book promotions for a year, met some great authors while doing it and enjoyed the experience. I have considered doing it again, but right now I'm setting up a new, writing and art related creative business so it's not the best time for me to be heavily involved in the work aspect of a group promotion. Maybe once I have it set up I could be more involved. If you think my work fits in with yours, we might be able to work together.  :)

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2017, 09:07:48 AM »
I have two full length Women's Fiction novels, a short story and a novella- What It Is is also with Kindle Scout- I'd love to be included!
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2017, 09:20:56 AM »
I advertise myself as sweet romance, but have been told that Im not really romance, but more chick lit, which is a type of womens fiction. If youre looking to join forces with someone, Id be interested.

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2017, 09:32:08 AM »
wow! it's great to see so many replies. i have a bus day, but will respond to everyone later!

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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2017, 10:45:36 AM »
If any of you write women's fic that leans more towards chick lit or rom com, there's a great Facebook group that I belong to: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ChickLitChatHQ/

The group has been around for years, and many of them are doing very well. (Better than me, lol!) It's chick lit though, so the focus is on very light, very funny stuff. There are some rom com and cozy mystery writers in there too. Sometimes I feel like some of my books are too heavy to fit in, but I hang around anyway because they're all very nice and helpful ladies (and a couple of men, actually!) and the discussions are good.

can you recommend any indies  in our genre?

I know many more chick lit indies than literary/women's fic. (Because of the above-mentioned group.) I know of writers who started out with indie women's lit, but changed genres and/or are now with publishers.

A couple of indies in women's lit that come to mind:

Kathryn R. Biel: https://www.amazon.com/Kathryn-R.-Biel/e/B00D4R755O
Celia Kennedy: https://www.amazon.com/Celia-Kennedy/e/B00AW5KEZO

And is Joanne Demaio still indie? https://www.amazon.com/Joanne-DeMaio/e/B0075WQ5NC For some reason, I don't think of her as an indie since I'm always seeing all of her books on the bestsellers lists, and at those prices too! But she lists herself as her publisher, so it looks like she is doing very well for herself! (I don't know her personally, but I'd love to have a chat with her about her methods! Looks like her method is to just write a LOT of books and really narrow in on her focus and branding. A good thing to aspire to.)

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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2017, 07:19:21 PM »
i think women's literary fiction may have a  romantic element, but it isn't necessary or generally the focus.

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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2017, 09:40:08 PM »
I write romance, but, I like to read the kind of books you write, OP, so I thought I'd let you know I just added Finding Charlie to my To Read in KU list. Good luck!
oh, cool! i hope you like it!

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2017, 09:52:18 PM »
I write of love, (crime, betrayal, resilience, coming-of-age, and love) but not romance.
I can relate well to stories by Jodi Picoult.
I have similar themes, but I don't class my work as Women's fiction, as it's not written for women, and my books are equally read and enjoyed by men. The work tends to be rural, rather than urban, and outdoors, rather than domestic.
So, while again I'd say I tell a mainstream or literary story, as I consider Jodie Picault does, and I enjoy good networking, I can't classify my work as women's fiction. But, keep me in mind. I have popular blogs (not book blogs) and consider reader interest submissions.
I ran historical fiction book promotions for a year, met some great authors while doing it and enjoyed the experience. I have considered doing it again, but right now I'm setting up a new, writing and art related creative business so it's not the best time for me to be heavily involved in the work aspect of a group promotion. Maybe once I have it set up I could be more involved. If you think my work fits in with yours, we might be able to work together.  :)

genre is tricky. In one of my favorite reviews of Sue Miller, shes described as writing about families and marriages, infidelity and divorce what we call literary fiction when men write about those things.

i don't really think my writing appeals only to women and i find the term frustrating at times, but it mostly fits.

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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2017, 07:46:42 AM »
i think women's literary fiction may have a  romantic element, but it isn't necessary or generally the focus.

who here has a newsletter?

I have a newsletter under my publishing name (I also publish a handful of other authors). We have 560-something subscribers, which I realize is a drop in the bucket compared to some, but we have very little attrition, and good click- and open-rates. Do you also have a newsletter?

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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2017, 10:15:18 AM »
I have a newsletter under my publishing name (I also publish a handful of other authors). We have 560-something subscribers, which I realize is a drop in the bucket compared to some, but we have very little attrition, and good click- and open-rates. Do you also have a newsletter?

i do. i have a few different lists. my main list is about 500.

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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2017, 08:51:49 AM »
I have two full length Women's Fiction novels, a short story and a novella- What It Is is also with Kindle Scout- I'd love to be included!
i know you! welcome!

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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2017, 09:03:18 PM »
let's connect on twitter and fb.

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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2017, 05:35:56 AM »
I have a newsletter of about 1300.

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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2018, 03:48:25 PM »
I advertise myself as sweet romance, but have been told that Im not really romance, but more chick lit, which is a type of womens fiction. If youre looking to join forces with someone, Id be interested.
how sweet is your newsletter audience? i drop a few f-bombs.

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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2018, 06:55:07 PM »
I have a newsletter under my publishing name (I also publish a handful of other authors). We have 560-something subscribers, which I realize is a drop in the bucket compared to some, but we have very little attrition, and good click- and open-rates. Do you also have a newsletter?
i'm putting some together now. do you have any upcoming sales to promote?

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I don't at the moment, because we're just coming off a holiday sale. What sort of date are you looking at?

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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2018, 07:48:43 PM »
I have a book that I thought fit into the women's let category, but I'm not really sure.  It's actually tough to slot just because it really doesn't fit anywhere.  The protagonist is 16, so that right there kind of disqualifies it as women's lit(?).  It's her story as a captive in a human trafficking ring and her subsequent escape.  Centers around her emotional and psychological struggle of keeping her sense of self and then her eventual escape and having to face her tormentor in the end because there is no other way to end his reign of terror.  I currently have it under young adult thriller, which I didn't even know existed until recently.

The problem with slotting it is that it's told from the victim's point of view and she becomes her own hero.  There is a sub-plot about people looking for her and such, but the story is about her and her fight and her victory.  And it's kind of deep thematically for a thriller. (What is the true nature of justice?)

Am I barking up the wrong tree here or is this a possible fit for what you have in mind?  (Broken Wing in my little list below)

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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2018, 09:48:43 AM »
I have a book that I thought fit into the women's let category, but I'm not really sure.  It's actually tough to slot just because it really doesn't fit anywhere.  The protagonist is 16, so that right there kind of disqualifies it as women's lit(?).  It's her story as a captive in a human trafficking ring and her subsequent escape.  Centers around her emotional and psychological struggle of keeping her sense of self and then her eventual escape and having to face her tormentor in the end because there is no other way to end his reign of terror.  I currently have it under young adult thriller, which I didn't even know existed until recently.

The problem with slotting it is that it's told from the victim's point of view and she becomes her own hero.  There is a sub-plot about people looking for her and such, but the story is about her and her fight and her victory.  And it's kind of deep thematically for a thriller. (What is the true nature of justice?)

Am I barking up the wrong tree here or is this a possible fit for what you have in mind?  (Broken Wing in my little list below)

i think a young mc doesn't automatically make it ya. it might be litfic. definitely sound like thriller.

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2018, 12:02:46 PM »
You might want to check out Suanne Laqueur, an awesome client of mine:

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« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2018, 04:21:36 PM »
I don't at the moment, because we're just coming off a holiday sale. What sort of date are you looking at?
i think i may do a few in the next couple months....

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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2018, 09:24:34 AM »
so  i'm putting a few different newsletters together,   but in the meantime i'm creating a list of writers in my genre on twitter. i figure in-genre retweets make more sense because we have similar audiences.

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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2018, 08:31:47 AM »
anyone else?

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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2018, 11:09:20 AM »
still looking

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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2018, 12:27:49 PM »
I started off writing women's lit fic, but have since switched to children's fiction. I have series of short chick lit books, too. My collection of short stories, Learning to Fly (the dark blue one in my sig line) is mostly women's lit fic, though I tend to write from the guy's perspective. Lol


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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2018, 09:06:07 AM »
Hi, Katie. I write historical romance but have a women's fiction book in the works. Is this something you'll be doing continually? Meaning, if a bit down the road you might still be looking for more authors to join in?

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« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2018, 04:45:26 PM »
Hi, Katie. I write historical romance but have a women's fiction book in the works. Is this something you'll be doing continually? Meaning, if a bit down the road you might still be looking for more authors to join in?
sure. i'm doing some swaps now and if it goes well, i'll do more.