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Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« on: February 20, 2009, 09:00:31 AM »
I watched the first season of True Blood, and I'm interested in reading the Southern Vampire series. I downloaded the first book, Dead until Dark, yesterday... but as I was reading it True Blood was in my head and I was bored.

So I'm wondering where Dead until Dark ends? Is it all of the first season of True Blood, or is there more? Or, does True Blood first season cover multiple books?

I dislike knowing the ending already. Knowing (spoiler) who was the killer, that her grandma gets killed, etc. I rarely re-read books or re-watch movies because of this! So, I'm considering returning Dead until Dark and picking up the second book.

Anyone know where each leaves off?

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2009, 11:52:55 AM »
Season 1 ended at the beginning of Book 2.

I am the opposite. I watch TB and wonder WTF was AB thinking? Bill is too nice (hey Robin where did I leave the stake with Bill's name on it?), Eric isn't the book eric and I hate hate hate TB's Tara. Don't even get me started on mister porn himself Jason.

I wonder why I even watch TB sometimes but then Eric comes on........*sigh**swoon*


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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 12:26:25 PM »
You know, i like the story line of TB, but I don't care for a lot of the characters- Bill annoys me, as does Sookie. I think it's the actors themselves. I wonder if reading the book would change my mind... but it is hard for me to stop visualizing what I saw happening in the show. I think I'll start reading the second book.

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 04:26:22 PM »
I started off watching the True blood series. I am now on Chapter 15 in the 7th book. Eric in the series looks just how I would picture him. I agree that the Bill character is not how I pictured him. I think the books are a lot better then the series. They chopped the first book about halfway through the book.

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2009, 04:33:20 PM »
I agree, that the books are better than the series.  I was not thrilled with the way the series went.  I enjoy watching it, but I am leaning towards thinking of it as an entirely different set of work.  I would finish book 1 and then move on to book 2 and see how you feel about it. 

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 06:41:01 PM »
By all means Panjo, I would say that if you aren't enjoying DUD, move on to Living Dead in Dallas.  I have not seen all of the first season of True Blood (partly b/c I like spending money on books, partly b/c it's my small way of rebelling against the cable company.), but I understand that the two diverge widely. 

I agree:  Jason is a horn-dog.  Bill was poorly cast (but then, I don't like the Bill character.  Chobitz, where did we leave that stake?  Is it still in the chat forum?  Maybe Harvey hid it for our own good), and many many MANY people do not think that True Blood Eric is the Book Eric.  (On the other hand, I loved the TB Tara character.  I loathe book Tara.  She reminds me far too much of a girl I work with of the same name.) 

But, from my reading in other threads about True Blood, I think after about the 5th episode, the show becomes its own show, not a show based on the book any longer.  Probably the main details are still there, but so many other things came into the show, they're not the same.

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 06:47:34 PM »
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many many MANY people do not think that True Blood Eric is the Book Eric

I am hoping next season Eric will be hotter on True Blood... the actor is wearing a wig or something this season and it looked horrible.  not to mention, the make up on him was BAD at least half the time.  But yes, up until this point they have left out a lot of the subtle Eric/Sookie stuff.

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2009, 06:54:41 PM »
I'm guessing that someone at HBO has seen book 4 and realized that, horn dog Jason aside, they really can't show that sort of thing on television.  So I'm guessing the divergence in season 1 is setting us up for no shower in season 4.  It's diabolical.  An evil plot.  A conspiracy.  [illegitimate persons].

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2009, 06:01:21 AM »
Lets talk Tara.. She is NOTHING like the books. I have no idea where they are heading her. The whole deal with her mother and the demon.. And who is the lady in the convertible. Is she suppose to be Claurice? (I know spelled wrong but my kindle is in the other room.) I am looking forward to all the new characters who will be coming out in the books.

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2009, 08:40:43 AM »
Thanks for all the replies! It's not that I am not liking the book, it's that I can't get Anna Paquins voice out of my head when I read it.  ::) BUT I am already catching some nuances that are making it more enjoyable than the movie so I'm going to stick with it. My fear was that if it was exactly like the show there would be no point in reading it because I already know what happens. It sounds like there are enough differences taht I should stick with it.

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2009, 08:41:20 AM »
Oh, and I'll happily try to catch up so I can join in on the end of the book club!

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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2009, 12:08:36 PM »
Lets talk Tara.. She is NOTHING like the books. I have no idea where they are heading her. The whole deal with her mother and the demon.. And who is the lady in the convertible. Is she suppose to be Claurice? (I know spelled wrong but my kindle is in the other room.) I am looking forward to all the new characters who will be coming out in the books.

Yeah, Tara is an entirely different person in the show.

I am pretty sure that MaryAnn (convertible lady) is the Maenad in book 2.

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2009, 12:33:53 PM »
Yeah, Tara is an entirely different person in the show.

I am pretty sure that MaryAnn (convertible lady) is the Maenad in book 2.

She is and they got her all wrong to.  In doing so, it messes up somethings that are supposed to happen later with Eric and Sam too, I think.  MarryAnne is such a lame name for her too.

Well the most obvious difference is the books are told from Sookie's point of view.  TB isn't, therefor it has a rawer feel to it.

Jason, was obnoxious in the books but he is even worse in TB.  He boarders on comic relief to total grossness.  He has virtually no redeeming qualities in TB at all. 

I think the TB character most true to the book is Sam.  He is my favorite male in both so far.  Sadly he is a bit weak and doesn't make his move on Sookie until Bill makes his play.

As you all know by now Tara wasn't even in the first book or was just mentioned in passing.  Her role on TB is blown way out of proportion.  I hated her at first but as the show progressed, I eventually got to liking her.

Sookie's vocabulary in the show is a bit bluer than I remember from the books too.  I don't remember her talking like that in the book. 

I liked True Blood a lot but I have to remind myself this is a work based on a book.   The TB crew bought the rights so they can pretty much do to it whatever they want to.  I just treat the books as a totally different thing than the show.


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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2009, 02:47:14 PM »
I am hoping next season Eric will be hotter on True Blood... the actor is wearing a wig or something this season and it looked horrible.  not to mention, the make up on him was BAD at least half the time.  But yes, up until this point they have left out a lot of the subtle Eric/Sookie stuff.

All I gotta say is every Eric fan will stop watching the show if they leave out his shower scene and his amnesia!

Isn't the shower scene in the second book??

But ya know Robin as much as I love Eric I love Jenks from the Rachel Morgan series much much more! Next week can't come fast enough!!

Those who like the Sookie series need to check out Kim Harrison's Rachel Morgan series. IMO it would have made a better but admittedly a more expensive TV series.


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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2009, 03:09:58 PM »
Nope it is not in the 2nd book. it is in the 4th book.

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2009, 03:26:51 PM »
Nope it is not in the 2nd book. it is in the 4th book.

Ah ok I always forget. I just miss the book eric so much in TB..
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2009, 03:58:20 PM »
lol. yeah.  That always gets me too, chobitz.  I thought the shower scene was in book 3, so I was hoping to sort of push through Living Dead in Dallas, but then someone else reminded me that, nope.  It's book 4.  So we'll be taking LDID at a far more normal pace.

I have to say, I like the TB Tara character a whole lot more than the SVM Tara.  I think the director or the producer or someone must have read all the books and pulled out the few things about Tara that were usable, and then just recreated the character.  In the book about Tara where she's dating the old man vampire, Franklin?, I think it mentions something about her parents being drunks, or her mother or something.  Because it comes up a couple of times about how Tara's mother, at least, was abusive.  And I think that's why we're getting the Tara/Tara's mom flashbacks in season 1.  And I'm almost positive that the book Tara wasn't black.  She was whiney and needy and terminally stupid, but in the book BIG SPOILER where Lafayette gets killed and Sookie and Tara are standing outside the house, it says something about them being two lillies on a pond, but doesn't mention anything about SECOND BIG SPOILER Tara and Lafayette being cousins like they are in TB.  Which is what lead me to believe that Tara was radically changed for the TB series. 

Which is fine by me.  I think TB Tara could kick SVM Tara's ass.  Sorry.  lol, I will try to be more objective in the book club discussions.

And I promise, Rachel fans, I am trying to love Jenks, but DWW is just killing me.  I keep finding myself yelling "CUT TO THE CHASE!!!!" at my kindle.  If I remember correctly, that's how my dtb ended up getting traded in with my last car.  I just never felt like the book was going anywhere.  At what point can I give up and skip to the second book?  But you know how if you eat enough spicy food, or enough food with Tabasco sauce on it, you'll eventually kill your taste buds?  I've read all 497 of the Anita Blake books, so maybe I just don't recognize a well-written novel anymore.  Maybe I burned out my vampire taste buds, so to speak, before I got to Rachel and Jenks and Ivy. Hmmm.
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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2009, 07:17:17 PM »
If you don't like them, then you don't like them.  No one is expected to like every book.  We'll still be friends.

Tara in the books is white, not related to Lafayette and not as volatile as TB's  Tara

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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2009, 08:44:03 PM »
Tara is with Franklin in book 3.  Book 2 is where Tara comes to life. I think the TB Tara is a trip. She she says what is on her mind.

I will admit.. Either Eric's (book or TB) would not be thrown out of bed for eating cracker.. But then again I have different taste in men then Sookie does. Bill just does not do it for me. In the later volumes I start to agree with her choice in men. I agree there will be a LOT of angry women if the shower seen is cut from the series. HBO will not want to answer their phone or get the mail.

As for Andy (the detective- Just drew mental break) The TB character is too old vs the guy I pictured in the books.
isn't he suppose to around Jason's age. 

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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 12:15:39 PM »
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OMG, that's too funny.

I don't remember Andy from the TB series, but yeah.  I think he is supposed to be around the same age as Jason and Sookie.  Maybe a couple of years older, but I think Sookie says something about remembering him from school.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2009, 02:05:11 PM »
Did you know "Eric's" dad was in Mamma Mia?


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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2009, 04:09:01 PM »
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And I promise, Rachel fans, I am trying to love Jenks, but DWW is just killing me.  I keep finding myself yelling "CUT TO THE CHASE!!!!" at my kindle.  If I remember correctly, that's how my dtb ended up getting traded in with my last car.  I just never felt like the book was going anywhere.  At what point can I give up and skip to the second book?  But you know how if you eat enough spicy food, or enough food with Tabasco sauce on it, you'll eventually kill your taste buds?  I've read all 497 of the Anita Blake books, so maybe I just don't recognize a well-written novel anymore.  Maybe I burned out my vampire taste buds, so to speak, before I got to Rachel and Jenks and Ivy. Hmmm.

I love the Hollows series, but I am not a big Jenks fan.  I like him, but just in a casual way.  I could take him or leave him I think.  I miss Kisten tho.  *sigh*

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2009, 04:43:26 PM »
Did you know "Eric's" dad was in Mamma Mia?



So they are related?  B/c you know, he was Will Turner's dad from Pirates of the Caribbean too.  Gotta love the immortal bad boy (which reminds me:  I started reading a series b/c one of the titles in the series was "Sex and the Immortal Bad Boy"....don't bother.  Nine thousand pages in, and nuthin'.  Nuthin' but a girl whining about what a drag immortality is.  It's like chick-lit gone way more horribly wrong than usual.)
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Re: Dead until Dark Book vs. True Blood TV show
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2009, 08:29:03 AM »
I finished Dead until dark last night and really liked it... i'm glad I stuck with it! I already downloaded book number 2 and hope to join in the discussion... although how I'm supposed to restrain myself and only read the first 3 chapters is beyond me!

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« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2009, 08:48:21 AM »
lol, if it makes you feel better, panjo, there are no chapter police.  Just be mindful of spoilers during our chats.  ;D
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