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I start here:

I believe Nicholas Erik is on Kboards and contributes. Unfortunately, I'm new at posting here so I don't know if I can 'tag' him.  But his site is a great resource. Hope that helps!


That is a great list with useful insights. Thank you for posting it. :)

Writers' Cafe / Re: How to publish a three book box set?
« on: June 19, 2018, 02:54:44 PM »
I have a question that is along the same lines. If I publish a box set, I would have a new ASIN number. Could I potentially take that wide while leaving the individual books in Select?
Is it ethical?
Is it against Zon's TOS?

The thought just came to me while looking at this post.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Advice on going wide. . . leaving KDP Select
« on: June 19, 2018, 09:20:55 AM »
Write them and ask to have all books pulled at once.
Thanks! I thought I was stuck. :)

Writers' Cafe / Advice on going wide. . . leaving KDP Select
« on: June 19, 2018, 08:39:02 AM »
I am thinking about taking my series wide, my dilemma is that book 1 and book 3 Select end dates are in July, while book 2 will not end until September.

What do you think is best:
1.   Pulling 1 and 3 out in July and waiting for book 2
2.   Pull book 2 in September then waiting until October to pull book 1 and 3?

Thank you for your input.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Dart Frog Books
« on: June 15, 2018, 01:48:14 PM »
There are pros and cons to this. I started this thread to see if anyone is doing it yet. I think the owner of the bookstore we trying to help me find ways to get my paperbacks in bookstores. She wasn't trying to sell me on it and she since she isn't a part of it 'yet' she has no idea how it works from our end.

I think if I really wanted to push my paperbacks it might be worth a try, but right now I am happy with ebooks being my main thing. Plus I would have to move all my paperbacks to Ingram and I just moved them to Amazon. I don't think I want to move them again soon.

It is nice to hear what other writers think about this.
For what it's worth, I dropped by my local bookstore recently and their deal is a straight 30% off the top for consignment.

This is what I would like to do with mine.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Dart Frog Books
« on: June 15, 2018, 12:33:12 PM »
Normally I'm skeptical about.. well, most marketing type services that are offered to authors. However, given that your local bookstore directed you to DartFrog, I'd be inclined to think it legit.
It's not a scam, I'm sure.

If I understand what I'm reading on their website correctly, then assuming they approve your book, it's $475 for a guaranteed three months placement, face front (I assume this means the cover of your book is visible), in their special sections in 20 independent bookstores. That ends up being just under $8 per store per month.
When you break it out that way it isn't a bad deal. Pay to play $89.00 to have them look at it, cheaper than an editor but then you add in the fear of rejection. . . .

Frankly, that sounds pretty good as long as the special DartFrog section in these stores isn't hidden in the storage room. Did you notice where this section was in your local bookstore? Obviously you'll need to calculate how much you earn per book.. it isn't clear to me how all of that works in terms of if the stores just order your book through Ingram, how many they order, what the return policy is, etc. Still, I'd be happy to pay a book store $8/month for decent placement for some of my books.
She hasn't signed up for it yet . . .and I agree more information is needed. and there doesn't seem to much on the site.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Dart Frog Books
« on: June 15, 2018, 10:42:27 AM »
I agree with everything you are saying, and I also wonder what happens when the three months are up. Do they keep stocking it if they are selling or do you have to pay for placement again, and only for one book. I just ran the numbers and I would need to 164 books to break even, based on my current royalty from Amazon.

Not that doesn't seem too far out there, but I have a series, if I only did one book, and the readers wanted to continue the series then I would be pushing them to Amazon to purchase the next book . . .kind of defeats the purpose of supporting independent book stores.

I just wanted to see what people thought about this, thank you for your feedback.

Writers' Cafe / Dart Frog Books
« on: June 15, 2018, 09:36:48 AM »
I took my paperbacks to my local bookstore yesterday and talked to the owner, she suggested I look at Dart Frog Books, I understand its part of Ingram.

From what I read on their website, , you can submit your self-published book and for a fee (89.00) they will review it and see if it is “book store ready”. If it is you pay an additional $386 for marketing and guaranteed ‘front faced’ placement in twenty independent bookstores for three months, along with some other marketing.

They have another part that looks like a vanity press to me and it is the $5,000.00 + range.

I was wondering if anyone out there is doing this and if so what was/is your experience with it?

Writers' Cafe / Re: Poll: Should I start a fight?
« on: June 15, 2018, 07:57:50 AM »
The fact that none of the options include a reference to Pink's "So What" song is a crime.
Exactly what I thinking. . . I listen to that on my way in to work (day job) most mornings, too bad I never follow through.
Na-na-na-na-na I want to get in a flight  :P

Writers' Cafe / Re: YA Fantasy Books promotions- call for books
« on: June 12, 2018, 07:00:54 AM »
Just signed up and published my first YA Urban Fantasy last week! Look foreword to working with you!

Writers' Cafe / Re: Help please.. Cover font
« on: June 08, 2018, 09:22:02 AM »
Is this part of a series? If it goes with your other books I wouldn't add anything. As it is it keeps with the theme.  ;D

Writers' Cafe / Re: AMS- 0 Impressions
« on: June 07, 2018, 03:06:45 PM »
I’m so glad I don’t need to freak out. I am using (cringe) the keywords preset by Amazon for sponsored product add.
They are running more for a test of my text then anything else.

Thank you all so much for the feed back. It’s been a while since I set up a new ad and since I’m ‘on top’ of my marketing for this book I wanted to make sure AMS wasn’t down.

Writers' Cafe / AMS- 0 Impressions
« on: June 07, 2018, 02:15:47 PM »
Hi all, I just launched a new book with a new pen name and I set an AMS add to start today. It shows that it is running but I have had zero impressions.
Does that sound odd to you or is it because of the campaign metrics 14 day lag time?
Any insight would be helpful.

Hope you all are have a great day!

No point writing an awesome book if nobody knows about it. Advertising is just telling potential readers about your book. If they like the look of it, they'll try it. If it's awesome to them, they'll read everything you write. But without *some* advertising up front, you never get to reach that reader.

And you don't have to spend thousands. Interacting with fans of your genre on social media is also a form of advertising, and costs nothing. Chris Fox talks about this in his books - if you find your tribe and connect with them in a positive way, they'll buy your books, and tell all their friends about them, too.

Pauline, I completely agree with you, and I do spend some money on advertising and try to communicate with my followers on social media. I made it into the top 100 when I released Hunted by Vampires, because I spent money on advertising. As you said I just don't want spend thousands. . . .

I am releasing a new book today with a new pen name, and I will be spending a few hundred dollars on advertising. I hope it goes well. . .

For starters, I don't do any advertising. Nada. Haven't spent a dime on ads nor have I spent any time or money on promos of any kind. Couple that with my inability to finish most stories I start, my total lack of patience to write longer works and my general "Dude"-level of laziness, excuses and procrastination and you have the near-perfect recipe for un-success. I'd teach a course in it, but that would require actual effort.  8)

I am with you, although I do spend some money on advertising.

That being said, after I released my first book I read the 'best sellers' in my genre and I was like you're kidding me. . .(I may not make any friends by saying that but it is how I felt about their books).

Then I read one of those free books on how to market your book to become a best seller on Amazon, it comes down to spending tons of money on advertising. You still need a good cover and blurb, but advertising seems to be the only way, but it all added up in my mind.

Of course I want to be a best seller, it is a life goal but I want it to be because I wrote an awesome book not because I spent thousands on advertising. (The fair tale)

Writers' Cafe / Help! Formatting issue- Never Mind I got it ;)
« on: June 01, 2018, 04:33:41 PM »
Hi all!
I am trying to insert a PDF above my chapter headings in Kindle and they are showing up tinny at the top left of each chapter instead of centered an larger. Does anyone know how to do this?
I am uploading a Word document. I tried PDF but KDP advised against it.


My day job is an accounting firm and this last year in Colorado, many of our tax clients received letters from businesses out of state that they purchased products from on the internet. These businesses did not obtain a Colorado Sales Tax licenses and did not collect any sales at the time of sale.
Therefore the sales tax owed for the products purchased needed to be paid to the state by the customer and not the business. These were not for large sales, we saw some that were for less than $30.00
I only mention this as a warning when it comes to sales tax. From what I understand Colorado was going after these businesses for the taxes and they passed it to the customer.
I'm not sure how it plays out on your end but just an FYI as you stated you will be collecting tax. You might want to see if you need a license from your state or the states you do business in.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Release Date . . . Do you have a preference?
« on: May 23, 2018, 12:46:34 PM »
When the book is ready!

That is always what I have done in the past!
I am going to offer a pre-order on this bad boy which is why I ask.  8)

Writers' Cafe / Re: Release Date . . . Do you have a preference?
« on: May 23, 2018, 12:19:37 PM »
Thank Jack!

Writers' Cafe / Release Date . . . Do you have a preference?
« on: May 23, 2018, 10:47:17 AM »
I know most TP release books on a Tuesday, I am wondering what Indies are doing.
Do you have a day that you think works better than others?
(I'm trying to decide on one right now and thought I would see what everyone else is doing.)

I moved all my paperbacks to KDP, but I have yet to order a proof copy from them. . . .I had major formatting and metadata issues when I moved them. I had to change the size of my covers . . .it was a pain.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Thousand Words a Day Club 2018
« on: May 18, 2018, 07:31:47 AM »
Hi! I used to part of the 3k a day thread but I had to bow out for a while but I'm back with a vengeance!
5615 yesterday. I love getting off to a good start!

Writers' Cafe / Re: Book Cover Coherency (for trilogy)
« on: May 17, 2018, 02:40:42 PM »
Your background picture for the first and the third book are very similar, maybe that is what you are going for, but IMO I would be afraid of confusing the potential buyer. ('wait didn't I already read this? The covers are almost the same.')
I agree with change the colors on the font, it looks much better with the new one you posted.

Writers' Cafe / Re: AMS ads on books 2,3... in a series
« on: May 17, 2018, 09:40:57 AM »
Me too! I always see things on marketing you series but how do you market your 2nd, 3rd and so on books . . . . (besides mailing lists)

Writers' Cafe / Re: After the Drawer
« on: May 17, 2018, 07:39:27 AM »
I have recently began doing this too. I didn't put on my kindle but kept myself from making changes just to get a feel of the book. When I finished reading it was thought it was great, but when I dove in to do the re-write it felt like I had jumped off a cliff, there was so much wrong. . .  I plan on doing this with my current WIP too just so I know where I'm at and maybe this time I will be prepared for the let down when I start editing. . .

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