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Writers' Cafe / Re: Great Reviewers
« on: Yesterday at 07:52:43 PM »
I don't care what they call their reviews.

They are not "good people." They are running a website that is SELLING reviews. Whether YOUR specific "service" was an "editorial review" or "customer reviewer" is not relevant. When Amazon starts purging their reviews (and they will. Spend ten minutes on this site reading threads about review purges) Amazon is not going to differentiate between "Oh, look, this is an "editorial review" not a "customer review" so we will leave that one up. No, they are going to use a chainsaw and not only remove ALL reviews from the site, but sent accusatory warnings (assuming you get a warning and not just get your account frozen) about "manipulating the rankings."

This page right here is a direct violation of the Amazon TOS: https://www.selfpublishingreview.com/spr-bestseller-book-packages/

Not only that but if they are not explicitly stating in those reviews that they were paid, it is a direct violation of the FTC disclosure laws regarding endorsements.

I have already discussed this here on this forum: http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,229468.0.html

I think you're missing that editorial reviews aren't posted in Amazon's product reviews. Editorial reviews have their own section on Amazon right above "about the author". Search up any popular trad-pub book and you'll see them. It's like what you get from Kirkus or if a magazine reviews it. It's not treated like a customer review at all and doesn't include a star rating. I think you might be confused because the OP's link also included a tab for their ARC service.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Formatting for different English markets
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:01:54 PM »
OK, I've lived in both the US and UK and I've never heard of a tea biscuit. Tea cakes, yes. Rich tea biscuits (cookies), yes. But a tea biscuit that's something like a scone or a muffin? Nope.

Tea Biscuit was a race horse.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Grammar questions...grammar answers
« on: June 17, 2018, 09:26:46 PM »
Over the last few years, I've seen more use made of the following substitution:

Instead of using he has or she has where appropriate, I'm seeing the use of he's (he is) or she's (she is) when it's obvious the meaning the writer is trying to convey is has. I'm not sure how common this is, since when I'm wrapped up in a story I don't always notice grammar.

Has this utilization become acceptable . . . or am I behind the times?

Thanks in advance.

I've only seen it used that way when "has" is acting as an auxiliary verb, in which case there is no potential for confusion:

--She's been here all morning. (She has been here all morning.)
--He's got three more patients today. (He has got three more patients today.)

It's not possible for 's to be interpreted as "is" or a possesive in these cases. It shouldn't be news to anyone that some words are spelled the same but have different meanings that must be inferred through context.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Pathetic Peeves - Confess Yours
« on: June 16, 2018, 06:32:46 PM »
I get quickly annoyed when I have to stop and sound out words when a writer uses non-standard spelling to phonetically convey that a character speaks with an accent.

Ugh, I hate that too. Just say they speak with an accent, or if it's set in a particular country or region it's going to be assumed everyone has that type of accent anyway.

Mostly though I'm more annoyed at pedantic grammarians than "mistakes". Too often people confuse their own stylistic preferences for rules. I think it would be boring if everyone wrote the same way with the same bland, precise style.

Writers' Cafe / Copyright search?
« on: June 16, 2018, 10:54:20 AM »
Is there anywhere you can go to search a phrase and find out if it's in a copyrighted work anywhere?

Writers' Cafe / Vellum print
« on: June 16, 2018, 08:44:03 AM »
Is Vellum print worth the extra $50 if you already have and know how to use InDesign? My boyfriend was given a 2009 Mac Pro tower they were discarding at his job and it's running El Capitan, so it can run Vellum and I'm seriously leaning toward purchasing it. But I'm not sure if the print version is worth the extra since I already have InDesign and I'm well-versed in it having been a newspaper designer for many years.

I'm more interested in quality and capabilities than time becuase it doesn't take me long to lay something out in InDesign.

I'm pretty sure that won't get you banned. K-Boards swear filter made the poem hilarious though...you should consider using that one.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Poll: Should I start a fight?
« on: June 13, 2018, 08:08:38 PM »
Unless you're talking about good pulpy fiction. What was it, every 50 pages something or somebody needs to be shot, stabbed, set on fire, hit, or drowned?

I guess I'm doing it right then (more like every 25 pages though).

Writers' Cafe / Re: Wonderment - Which is a better opening line?
« on: June 13, 2018, 01:04:28 PM »
She poked me in my arm that I broke once in third grade with the stainless steel non-slip corn holders which she had been using to eat the corn grown on her grandfather's field that had been passed down in her family since they arrived from Ireland in the year 1852.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Some typos are so funny...
« on: June 11, 2018, 09:26:05 PM »
I came across a photo of an advertising poster recently which read:

Did you know? Kansas City welcomes 25 million visitors anally

I'm glad I missed out on the welcome when I visited then.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Some typos are so funny...
« on: June 11, 2018, 07:22:52 PM »
I saw one in a newspaper recently. It was supposed to be "40 Years of Head Start" but they left out "Start". Unfortunately the photo beneath the headline was a group of teachers and workers who were mostly women.

*If you're not from the US, Head Start is like preschool.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Do Americans say gobsmacked?
« on: June 07, 2018, 06:06:51 PM »
I love regionalisms!

For a very short time, I lived in the Quad Cities area of Illinois/Iowa (Bettendorf and Davenport on the Iowa side of the Mississippi, with Moline and Rock Island on the Illinois side). There was the soda/pop thing and the grocery cart/buggy thing, but the one that really confused me was stool. That's what my born-and-bred-in-Moline friend called the toilet. My first thought was, "Then what do you call the tall, swiveling seat one perches on at a bar/tavern/pub?"

As she was a teetotaler, it seemed rude to ask.

One of my great-grandmothers called it the stool, but she was from Louisiana. She also called the sofa the divan.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Do Americans say gobsmacked?
« on: June 07, 2018, 12:55:38 PM »
I always thought pavement = asphalt. Like putting new pavement down means building a new road, and I've seen ads hiring people to do pavement. I never heard it used for the sidewalk. I think I may have used this word actually...maybe I should re-evaluate.

ETA: Yes, I did use it in reference to the hot pavement on the side of a highway...

Writers' Cafe / Re: Charles Dickens and Names
« on: June 06, 2018, 12:45:27 PM »
Personally I think you should just keep the name and not worry about it. Unless the plot is also similar or you and Patterson's readers overlap, most people won't even make the connection. Duncan is a fairly common last name. I think there have been actual US presidents with the same last name who weren't related, hasn't there?

Writers' Cafe / Re: Bad review: Would you do this?
« on: June 05, 2018, 05:55:18 PM »
I am surprised that no one has mentioned "The Chicago Manual of Style," which I believe is still considered the "Bible" for American English by traditional publishers. It is still used as a first reference.

It's not the "bible" of American English. It's used as the style guide of choice in certain industries (publishing being one, which is why it gets mentioned here so much), while other industries have their own preferred style guides (Associated Press for Journalism, APA for psychology and social sciences, etc.).

I've been thinking about this a lot, and I think it really boils down to not finding the right audience yet. I write my books backwards in Old English on a roll of toilet paper, then I take photos of the roll and compile it into pages which I publish as an e-book. The reader has to hold it up to a mirror to read it. Then for the covers, I take photos of dead cucarachas posed in scenes from my book. I even sew little outfits for them. But yeah, I just can't figure it out for sure.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Bad review: Would you do this?
« on: June 05, 2018, 04:51:17 PM »
Maybe he would be more popular with High School kids?

High school kids probably wouldn't even be speaking the same language as we know it, and the was the point of my comment. Shakespeare invented words where he didn't have one that fit, and we still use some of those words today.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Bad review: Would you do this?
« on: June 05, 2018, 04:32:19 PM »
Quite happy to move past this (that) issue, but never happy to support the decline of language.  The point - as made by one contributor earlier, is that if you have a choice of options, then surely choosing the one that offends no one is preferable to choosing one that a writer feels should be acceptable, but will possibly create a negative impression with SOME readers? People like me are put off by the abuse of language to the extent that no matter how enthralling the story, we are likely to form and keep a less than favourable impression of the writer. This is very like to apply to many who are old enough to have been taught clear rules of grammar in our schooling. Baby Boomers they call us.

Differences are not "decline" or "abuse". They are merely differences. Languages change, and English changes more quickly than many others. Regional dialects reflect the history and culture of the people who speak them. There is nothing wrong or incorrect or inferior about that. If someone dislikes a writer's style, they are free to not read that writer. It doesn't make their use of language inferior. What if someone had told Shakespeare to follow the "rules" and write like everyone else did, and what if he had listened?

Writers' Cafe / Re: Bad review: Would you do this?
« on: June 05, 2018, 03:04:03 PM »
Not so. Grammar has both rules and tradition.

Mathematics or the many branches of science, or medicine also have no "Official Governing Body" - are their rules to be accepted as matters of individual preference?

I didn't say it has no rules, but compared to many other languages the rules of English are very simple (now, spelling is another story). A lot of the things that people like to claim are rules are not, but rather a personal stylistic preference that someone has confused for a rule and then uses to lord his superiority over others. However, I have no desire to participate any further in a discussion with someone who makes statements like this:

I'll stick to style guides that don't allow the corruption of language. You remember what they are?

Edited quoted post.  --Betsy

Writers' Cafe / Re: Bad review: Would you do this?
« on: June 05, 2018, 02:43:07 PM »
I don't understand most of the grammar quibbling. English grammar is very simple and has very few actual rules. Technically speaking, it has no rules because there is no official governing body to make them. Just because someone gave an opinion about a particular usage in a book or style guide doesn't make it a rule. Too many people confuse stylistic preferences with grammar rules and forget that different regions have different ways of speaking and writing.

Spacey McShipface

(sorry, I couldn't help it; please ignore me)

Nope. if you pierced an egg at both ends, (usually by tapping with a needle) the liquid would not flow out without assistance. You had to either suck or blow through one of the holes to empty the egg. With the kids who were called "Birdnesters" they would blow. In earlier times they would not waste the protein.
Eggs used to be coated with a liquid called "waterglass" to seal the shell and make them keep for much longer than normal. No one kept eggs in a frig when I was young.

They still don't refrigerate them in most countries. They wash them in the US, so the natural coating comes off and they have to be refrigerated. Otherwise they can be kept out just fine.

ETA: Probably not for five months though. I guess that was long-term preservation.

I understand the intention of the phrase, but not why the hell my grandma would know how to suck eggs in the first place or what purpose that activity served.

When the suggestion was relevant, most grandmas knew how to suck eggs. When I was a kid in England, a popular hobby was collecting birds' eggs. All collectors knew how to suck eggs as an egg complete with contents would go rotten and not be something your mother would regard with friendly eyes.

Now I feel incredibly dirty-minded because of what I was thinking it meant. Unless you're making this up?

Just today I learned that the man who slept a long time was Rip Van Winkel, not Rick Van Winkel.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Ultimate Author Insult!
« on: June 02, 2018, 05:46:58 PM »
The outhouse comes to mind.

Hey, if your only other option is the corn cob...

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