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Writers' Cafe / Re: Retiring! Maybe. Probably. For now, at least.
« on: April 21, 2018, 02:18:19 PM »
Coming late to this party, I want to add my superlative to the list. Phoenix, you are phenomenal. You know how to put together a fun and profitable and ethical multi-author box set, and I thank you for including me in a couple. As a data guru and all-around Indie champion, you've improved our lot significantly.

Enjoy your retirement and gorgeous ponies. KBoards and grateful authors will be here if/when you decide to jump back in.

And, if you get the itch to write another Sector C, I'll be a happy reader.

You rock, Phoenix.

The sale is going great--thanks Renee!

My facebook post is here:

Thank you Marti!!

Me too. Slow loris here...

This was really timely because I just built a new site :)

Writers' Cafe / Re: Who here writes Spy/Thriller books?
« on: August 23, 2017, 02:46:12 PM »
ToniD: Can't tell you how much this means. Thank you!

You're welcome! And thank YOU for very engrossing reads :)

Writers' Cafe / Re: Who here writes Spy/Thriller books?
« on: August 23, 2017, 11:39:14 AM »
HN Wake used to be a "spy" IRL.

I'm hooked on her series! Good stuff. I wondered if she had RL spy experience; if not, that's some impressive research.

Alan Peterson writes nifty spy thrillers with fascinating Latin American settings.

Thanks again and as always Renee. A terrific selection this time!

My facebook post:

Twitter post:

I'm another one dealing with back trouble (one year of back injury hell + surgery, ugh). I'm just now getting back into life and writing, and trying to adapt my workstation setup.

Using a desktop with drop-level tray for the keyboard, and using books to raise/lower the monitor/keyboard to figure out what's best.

But my biggest adaption is with seating. I'm using a type of physioball called a peanut ball. Shaped like, yeah, a peanut. So my bottom-level disc area (er, the butt) is not resting directly on the ball. And can add or get rid of air to get it to the best bounciest inflation.

That, and short writing sessions and getting up and pacing around.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Need some marketing advice!
« on: April 10, 2017, 01:28:51 PM »
You're most welcome :)

Writers' Cafe / Re: Need some marketing advice!
« on: April 10, 2017, 12:37:52 PM »
Given your strong start, might make the diff. You could ask Renee;she's really nice


Writers' Cafe / Re: Need some marketing advice!
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:58:29 AM »
I think that is okay, as long as you can do social media posts.


Writers' Cafe / Re: Need some marketing advice!
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:44:09 AM »
PS: Renee's thriller x- promo, doing free books this time

Writers' Cafe / Re: Need some marketing advice!
« on: April 10, 2017, 11:40:35 AM »
Great going Annie!

Another thriller site is Book Adrenaline. Pretty good results.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 27, 2017, 02:14:18 PM »
Thanks for the further replies :)

Edward, yes, when using the quotes I was thinking along the lines of social proof. Aaand...I take She-la's argument into account as well. She-la, you make the point well about not wanting to risk patting oneself too obviously on the back for some awesome review ;)

Anyway, certainly agree that whatever leads the blurb must be short and punchy.

I have used hooks in the past, and do think that a good hook is a lovely thing. And that's how I started this thread, being inspired by Adam Croft's hook, and wanting to give hooks another whirl for my books.

Viv, I'm just delighted that you're reading and enjoying my box set! Nice too that its California setting gives you a fun time! As for the hook, I'm leaning as well toward the statement version, especially after reading that blog you linked to.

Again, appreciate everyone's input.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 26, 2017, 03:41:40 PM »
Sorry for the late replies...

Hey Edward, your comment about my books was sure appreciated!

As for the genre, good insight about the mix of action and psych, and how to characterize a book in the blurb. Identifying my target reader has always been a bit of a on-the-one-hand thing...that is, forensic science reader, thriller reader, action reader, and I hope character-driven story reader. Which is a bit of a tall order, hah!

Anyway, with the hook I'd like to hit the character side harder, especially since the series title hits the science-y side. I do like your Badwater suggestion "The heat in Death Valley isn't what threatens to kill Cassie Oldfield." I might just steal that one ;)  Many thanks.

Crowbar, interesting twist on my latest hook attempt. I like it. Thank you!

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 06:47:52 PM »
Cool! Thanks Jena, for the useful prodding.

So sorry to hear you're struggling.

I truly sympathize, having dealt with a health problem for the past year. Still dealing. For me, it's the 'realistic' part of the equation. What can I do, and not do, and what is the time frame for it?

More than that, though, is handling the nagging voice that says, just push it. Toughen up. Sometimes, actually, pushing it does indeed lead to a more productive day. Many times it does not, and then I have to shake off any stupid guilt feelings about not working to a schedule I would LIKE to have met.

Take care of yourself.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 06:12:23 PM »
Jena, you got me thinking. Further. Much as the wilderness can be dangerous, my protag is an experienced backcountry hiker; meaning, it's not the wilderness itself that creates the harrowing bit, but rather what characters do there.

How about something like this:

What if you tracked a madman into the wild? And it turned out that you were not the only one on the hunt...

Or, instead of question-format:
She tracked a madman into the wild. But she was not the only one on the hunt.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 04:52:56 PM »
Thanks Crowbar. Seems strange; such a common character.

She added, And THEN the murders began.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 02:58:44 PM »
And why does an em dash show up here as a question mark??

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 02:51:00 PM »
And just saw yours, Nick—thanks!

You hooked me with the Don Draper reference ;)

Some very good advice. Once I get a couple/few reasonable hooks (and blurbs) I would like to try a test as you describe.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 02:47:15 PM »
Gertie, I really like that; it's a grabber. Though it would mislead—and since I've not explained more, I should do so. My protag is hired by the madman's brother to find him, and although she does know that his mental state is wild, and things do start to happen to unsettle her, she's persevering, doing her job. Sigh, hard to sum up in a short hooky phrase.

Jena, yeah, punch is definitely a requirement for a hook! As I explained above, her motive is her job, but she does come to care about more than that, and worry about more than that, as things progress. Again, can't do that in a short hook, but I'll keep thinking about what I can do that is punchier.

BTW, the madman is mad because of mercury poisoning—very sad, and unpredictable. And yes, he is armed, so very dangerous.
I might have to dump the madman angle and go back to the harrowing hunt. As Gertie liked, up above. And I'm now liking Jena's twist on that.

Drawing board in progress.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 02:15:07 PM »
Jena, I take your point about quotes using up that space.

Gertie, thanks re the statement hook. Especially taking Jena's space comment into account.

IW, yeah, I see what you mean about the why. Gets tricky, getting that into a short hook, but hooks are tricky. I'll play with that. And indeed, this madman does belong in the wild ;)

Thanks for the replies!

Writers' Cafe / Hooks and taglines
« on: March 25, 2017, 12:46:51 PM »
Reading the Mark Dawson FB ad thread, I was struck by the posts about Adam Croft's success with Mark's course...and how Adam's hook played a part.

Nosy me, I immediately went to look and, oh my, is it a nifty hook: Could you murder your wife to save your daughter?

That got me thinking. Wondering if others have had success using hooks at the start of blurbs?

As for me, I've been using pull quotes (reviewer or reader). But now am motivated to try getting hooky. (realizing I'll not match Adam Croft's terrific tagline) Anyway, trying it on book #1 in my series, Quicksilver.

Firstly, my current pull quote: "You gotta love a geologist that gets in this much trouble! If you love a good, action packed adventure, this is it."

And two attempts at hooks:
A question hook: Would you track a madman into the wild?
A statement hook: A Harrowing Hunt in the California Gold Country

Any feedback would be much appreciated, on using hooks in general and/or on my attempt in particular.

Thanks Renee, as always!

Tweeted: The THRILLING Dollar Store....

Annie, I always read your posts because you are such a smart and generous poster!

So sorry to hear that you've had a downturn. I don't have any new advice, but do echo the 'write what you love' sentiment. Given that you did have success writing what you love!

Once when I was struggling with a chapter--and grumping about it--my husband said sounds like you're not having fun. I said, well yeah. He said, when you're having fun writing, how does that turn out? Well the answer is, it usually turns to be much better writing and storytelling!

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