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The only thing we're disputing then is the difference between Anika Patel vs Joan Smith in respect to success in Indian Romance. In that case, I would argue that most readers would gravitate towards Patel either consciously or subconsciously.

Studies of diversity in Romance proves think wrong. Having the last name Patel or anything else that might indicate culture or religion is a hindrance not only in traditional publishing but also indie/self publishing. Especially is the romantic leads are POC.

Why?

Because white women don't read romances staring POC, especially if they're written by POC. The situation is not reversed. WOC do read books written white main characters and written by white authors.

Think about it. If there where millions of dollars to be made just by pretending to be black in romance, than real Kline black women romance authors would be struggling. Beverly Jenkins would have been a households name years ago.

Yes, Ms. Patel might cater to an audience looking for culturally relevant romance. But Ms. Smith's audience is bigger and overlaps Ms. Patel's.
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Writers' Cafe / Re: Marketing
« Last post by Skip Knox on Today at 08:51:47 PM »
Thanks, raminar_dixon. I've done 1 and 2, though would love tips on "actively building" a list. It was really #3 I was asking about. You're saying FB ads and AMS ads are the best first steps along that road.

Any other opinions? I feel this is hijacking a thread. Maybe tomorrow I'll start a separate one. The search function here never seems to return what I need, though I am sure this question must have been asked several times by now.
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I can almost always pass 1,000 words in a day easily. What helps me is knowing where my story is going. I do a rough outline of every chapter and the major events that need to occur. Breaking the big picture down into smaller pieces helps the project feel more manageable.
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Writers' Cafe / Re: Will this offend anyone?
« Last post by judygoodwin on Today at 08:47:19 PM »
If this offends someone to the point that they're not willing to read your book, they've got pretty thin skin. Can it offend? Sure. But then a lot of humor can be offensive, depending on the audience.

I wouldn't worry about this, unless this represents a pervasive theme or tone to the book.
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Writers' Cafe / Re: Will this offend anyone?
« Last post by dgrant on Today at 08:45:36 PM »
Will it offend someone? Probably. I mean, I actually read a real, not satire, news article where a woman from one country was claiming she was offended because soldiers from another country weren't raping her. Given the world contains people like that, it's impossible to not offend somebody out there.

Is it in character for your character? Are they naturally and cheerfully either sarcastic or immune to people trying to offend them, or inclined to poke fun at stereotypes?

Is your audience full of people who are so determined to take offense that they will decide that your character's views are a direct reflection on their own personal views, and on yours, and must be taken seriously?

..Actually, before you answer that, just go back to the old rule of beta readers: only look at something if three or more people don't like it. Every reader brings themselves to the story, and so supplies a whole lot of backstory, connotation, and emotional baggage. So a single beta reader's statement may be you, may be them. No need to worry about changing!

(Unless it's a terrifyingly proper little old southern lady who's buttonholing you that "Francisco doesn't have a mustache! You take that right out!" In which case, as a male friend relayed, the only proper response is "Uh, yes ma'am? Which movie actor do you think he...OH! Yes, ma'am, I see. Of course. I'll take that right out.")

Edited to add: I read the OP's post to my darling husband, who immigrated from South Africa. He burst out laughing, and then grinned at me. "Uncomfortably true, isn't it, love?"
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Good idea. I'm headed there next. I've been reading through other people's job postings for covers to get an idea of what they look for / what the response is since reading your suggestion. Thank you =]

You're welcome!
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Know where you're going, whether it's written down (plotter) or held in your head (pantser).

Or held in your character's head.  ;D
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I wasn't comparing Rowling and Smith/Patel. However, the more I think about the more curious I become about the argument. When you link them all together they do hold some similarities. John Smith to Anika Patel hides gender, the same as Joanne Rowling to J K Rowling was designed to hide gender. Rowling's name change was done due to gender discrimination and to increase her chances of getting her book published. But, I could say the same thing of Smith/ Patel. Although, instead of getting published, in this case, I would measure the success of an indie by their sales and Smith/Patel would absolutely increase their sales.

In general male romance writers overwhelmingly do better when using a gender-neutral or feminine sounding pen name. So let's assign John Smith the feminine pen name, Joan Smith. The only thing we're disputing then is the difference between Anika Patel vs Joan Smith in respect to success in Indian Romance. In that case, I would argue that most readers would gravitate towards Patel either consciously or subconsciously.
I'm a bit neutral on this topic, but I think in weighing it, it's important to consider what these name changes are for. Joanne/JK or John/Joan takes advantage of gender bias. Women know more about romance, men know more about everything else. That's the subconscious judgement people are trying to either avoid or take advantage of.

In the case of Smith/Patel, it's a matter of experience. People will assume someone named Patel has more experience with Indian relationships, which then brings up the question if Rowling did the same thing when she pretended to be a vet to sell more thrillers.
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I don't.

I've learned to write hyper-efficiently instead and still publish 4 books a year on 1000 words or less per day.

But the key is always (whether plotter or pantser): know what the purpose of the scene is going to be before you start writing it. Know where you're going, whether it's written down (plotter) or held in your head (pantser).
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Writers' Cafe / Re: Will this offend anyone?
« Last post by Flay Otters on Today at 08:35:59 PM »
As a naturalized citizen I know that the world does in fact revolve around the USA.
It would be the kind of thing I might say, if I was feeling snarky.
So no, not offended at all. Amused.
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