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Title: Do you still buy paper books? Used bookstores are making a comeback...
Post by: Betsy the Quilter on December 27, 2015, 09:48:14 AM
I don't buy paper books very often at all...but apparently, according to this article in the Washington Post, used bookstores are making a comeback!

http://wapo.st/1SgIW4q

Betsy
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on December 27, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
I don't buy paper books very often at all...but apparently, according to this article in the Washington Post, used bookstores are making a comeback!

http://wapo.st/1SgIW4q

Betsy

I saw that article this morning!  I think there's something to it. . . . people are looking for sort of neighborhood places that might specialize, vs huge 'big box' stores for books.
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Post by: MariaESchneider on December 27, 2015, 10:08:37 AM
I never stopped completely, mainly for cost reasons.  My library isn't particularly well-stocked and some of the big publishers charge rather more than I am willing to spend on books.  So I still buy used books, although a lot of time I buy online.  It's just economics for me.  I'd love to be able to be more supportive of authors, but a 12.95 book is easily my entire monthly budget (and I often don't even spend that, depending on library and/or cheap kindle versions). 
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Post by: writerbee on December 27, 2015, 10:13:22 AM
I never stopped buying paperbacks. Even as I loaded up my Kindle. I love the convenience of having hundreds of books available on my Kindle/laptop/iPhone when I'm out and about, traveling or waiting for a bus or sitting in a café.
But when I'm home, I prefer reading paperbacks. Just habit, and also it's easier to flip back and forth to refresh my memory on characters, plot, etc.
And I love used bookstores! Was just in Portland and spent 4 hours and $$$$ at Powells (aka the best bookstore in the world) (IMO :-)) stocking up on books, for gifts and for myself ;-D
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Post by: Anma Natsu on December 27, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
I never stopped, and still buy almost all paperbacks.  I think I've bought less than a dozen eBooks total in the last few years, mostly non-fiction and one or two works to support the author or where it was a great deal (like I got the paperback to give someone and got the eBook for low cost or free).

Most of what I read isn't available in eBook form and when it is, it just isn't as "nice" (graphic works just don't do eBook well yet to me).  Also, I work on a computer 40+ hours a week, then come home and work on another one.  Reading gives my eyes a much needed break from the screens. :)
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on December 27, 2015, 12:49:21 PM
I never stopped, and still buy almost all paperbacks.  I think I've bought less than a dozen eBooks total in the last few years, mostly non-fiction and one or two works to support the author or where it was a great deal (like I got the paperback to give someone and got the eBook for low cost or free).

Most of what I read isn't available in eBook form and when it is, it just isn't as "nice" (graphic works just don't do eBook well yet to me).  Also, I work on a computer 40+ hours a week, then come home and work on another one.  Reading gives my eyes a much needed break from the screens. :)

I can appreciate all of this, but note that KINDLE is an eInk screen and, for me, much nicer than a printed book page.

It's not a 'screen' in the sense that the light is coming at you. Those that have lighting built in, have a system where the light is focused onto the screen -- same as if you had a reading lamp. You can turn it up or down to maximize your reading comfort, and can adjust the print size for eye comfort as well. They're also lighter than most books -- even paperback. :)
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Post by: writerbee on December 27, 2015, 01:53:18 PM
I can appreciate all of this, but note that KINDLE is an eInk screen and, for me, much nicer than a printed book page.

It's not a 'screen' in the sense that the light is coming at you. Those that have lighting built in, have a system where the light is focused onto the screen -- same as if you had a reading lamp. You can turn it up or down to maximize your reading comfort, and can adjust the print size for eye comfort as well. They're also lighter than most books -- even paperback. :)

Agreed. I have an older Kindle with no-glare screen and the eInk technology -- I can adjust the font so it's often easier on the eyes than my physical books. But I still read books when at home, mostly b/c I like to be able to easily flip back and forth to find info.

Some of my favorites  I have as ebboks on Kindle and as physical books. Also sometimes now, with a big fat paperback (sci-fi mostly) I'll get the ebook because it is easier to hold and read.
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Post by: Chad Winters on December 27, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
I will occasionally buy a book at the used bookstore if it is a lot cheaper than the ebook. It's my way of sticking my tongue out at the big pubs who don't like ebooks and like to price them higher than the paperbacks. Instead of getting my 9.99, they don't get 15.99,  they get zero. Still would prefer the ebook, though. Amazing they don't see the not able to resale advantage of the ebook.
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Post by: Atunah on December 27, 2015, 02:54:29 PM
If I could still read paperbacks, I would maybe still read some of them. The ones that aren't in ebook form yet. Otherwise I just don't have the space here for books and kindle is just easier not just for my eyes, but also for my wrists, hands.

I have a box of rare paperbacks and I can't read them, which makes me sad as I would love to read those stories. I keep hoping they'll come out in ebook in my lifetime.

I just don't have any decent book stores anywhere near me, no used ones either. I wouldn't mind browsing in one again, but not if I have to stress myself out trying to drive there and then not find anything to look at.
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Post by: Anma Natsu on December 27, 2015, 03:26:56 PM
I can appreciate all of this, but note that KINDLE is an eInk screen and, for me, much nicer than a printed book page.

It's not a 'screen' in the sense that the light is coming at you. Those that have lighting built in, have a system where the light is focused onto the screen -- same as if you had a reading lamp. You can turn it up or down to maximize your reading comfort, and can adjust the print size for eye comfort as well. They're also lighter than most books -- even paperback. :)

When I looked at a Kindle, I didn't really find it to be the case for me - it wasn't as nice as printed pages and the weight of books don't bother me at all.  The font adjustment size is a great feature for folks who can't read regular print anymore or who find it too straining, my like my sweetie's mom.  I got one for my own mom once too, because of many of the same benefits you noted as to why you like it.  In her case, though she found it too hard to use even though she can use a computer and figured out an iPhone the first time she picked it up.  She sent it back to me, I had no use for it and ended up selling it.  ::)

eBooks just are not for me, and I don't think that's wrong or bad.  They are great for lots of people, and if they work for others that just fine.  :)  For me, even if I were to get into eBooks more, I wouldn't buy a Kindle device.  I already have a tablet (which if I do read Kindle books on is where I read most of them through the Kindle App), so spending money on yet another device is just wasteful for my situation.   

Plus books are safer to read in the tub and by the pool ;) (though I acknowledge I do use the iPad there too since I have a waterproof case for it LOL)  And while eBooks from indies are generally well priced, eBooks have no "used" option and most eBooks from traditional publishers are way more expensive than buying used (love Half Price) and since I read far more of those, economically, sticking to print books works in my favor.    ;)
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Post by: Joseph J Bailey on December 27, 2015, 06:00:51 PM
I no longer buy print as much as I love the smell, texture, and sensations of a physical book.

They just take up too much room.

I now have an entire digital library, far more than the hundreds of print books on shelves, boxes, and assorted nooks and crannies spread throughout my house, shared across my computer and phone that I can take with me anywhere.

As much as I miss smelling a new book and the pride of ownership in a particular find, the flexibility and accessibility of having all my books with me all the time does not make me miss what I have lost.

I am wedded to book's contents not their means of delivery.

For books I cannot get digitally (or in audio), I do borrow print copies from the library.
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Post by: Sam Kates on December 28, 2015, 07:40:22 AM
Much as I love my Kindle and for all its advantages (font adjustment, space saving, etc), I still prefer the look, smell and feel of a paper book. I probably read three paper books to every e-book and still buy paper editions regularly.
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Post by: Steven Hardesty on December 31, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
I'm heavy into Kindle but I can't give up paper.  I buy mostly in used bookshops because they always seem so much fuller of surprise than glossy modern bookstores.  Hey, I just realized I referred to used bookshops but modern bookstores.  A shop is warm and cozy and full of strange mysteries but a store is, well, just a place where stuff is shelved.
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Post by: Ros_Jackson on December 31, 2015, 12:19:05 PM
I don't buy paperbacks often, usually only when I want something that's not available in ebook. However, people keep gifting me with paperbacks, so I always have something to read in that format. Next year I don't expect to buy more than one paperback for every ebook I purchase, not counting freebies. It would be none, but quite a few publishers don't bother with ebook versions for slightly older releases, and some of the best history reference books are highly illustrated.
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Post by: SonyaWrites on January 02, 2016, 08:19:48 PM
I do a lot of shopping at thrift stores, and I have to stop myself from buying used paperbacks a lot of times! I have 8 bookshelves pretty much packed full. I enjoy paperbacks a lot more than ebooks.
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Post by: deckard on January 03, 2016, 06:13:13 AM
Although most of my reading is done on the Kindle, I still buy paper books. Most of those are nonfiction or ones heavy with illustrations that don't show up well on the Kindle.

Deckard
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Post by: worktolive on January 03, 2016, 06:40:45 AM
I love my K because of the eye and wrist strain issues with physical books. However, I do miss being able to flip though a physical book and reread sections that catch my eye. I'd say that 95% of my reading is done on the Kindle, yet I just can't resist a good deal on a paperback (especially the $0.50 deals at my library!).

The used book stores in my area are pretty snooty and don't stock much romance and UF, which are the two genres I read the most of. Instead I use Paperback Swap, although not so much anymore since they instituted a yearly fee - that hugely cut down the number of books available. The funny thing is that even though I have a bookcase full of unread books AND I continue to get more, I almost never read them. I really need a 12-step program to cut down on my book buying addiction.  ;D
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Post by: J.R.Mooneyham on January 03, 2016, 07:41:24 AM
Definitely. I own both an old Kindle with a keyboard (which I like better) and a newer Kindle color tablet. Reading on the old Kindle is wonderful, but not being a woman I don't have a good place to carry it without possibly sitting on it and breaking it, and that just makes it easier to lay it down somewhere like a doctor's office and forget it (an expensive error). So they must stay at home. Unfortunately, often the only pleasure reading I get to do is while sitting in a waiting room; so paperbacks are the winner for that. No great loss if you crease a page or even lose it, and fits in your pocket.

But book cost is a major issue too. Because you can usually get a great book by a great author at a used bookstore that would cost you three or more times the price in an ebook online. Seriously. Since when I read, I might read a LOT of books, that cost difference mounts up fast for me.

Browsing in a physical bookstore is also different enough from online that sometimes you'd want to do it just for that reason, if no other. And unlike an Amazon ebook sampling, in a real bookstore you can flip around and look anywhere in the book before buying it.

Lastly, I live in a rural area that's always been a wasteland for used bookstores. But just a couple years ago a fantastic place opened up about 18 miles from me, that has a wonderful selection and pretty good prices. It's tough to beat anywhere, even online or in the big city 50 miles away! A few months back they had a sale at half their already low prices, and I stocked up!
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Post by: missypyxi on January 03, 2016, 10:49:01 AM
I will often buy a paperback copy of a book if I really enjoyed the ebook version. There's something about having a full bookshelf.

I love the world of indie publishing. I love how easy it is to find a vast selection of books, but there's something about walking into a bookstore and browsing the shelves and smelling the books that I hope never goes away.
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Post by: James Richard on January 05, 2016, 02:42:03 PM
I wonder if any of the big box retailers will survive over time with the advent of EBooks.  Ebooks are so much cost effective to produce and distribute.
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Post by: Jim Johnson on January 25, 2016, 09:38:56 AM
For the books I intend to read only once, I'll try to find a used copy if it's less expensive than the ebook. For most tradpub books, used copies are usually far less expensive. Buy the used book, read it, trade it back in for credit on the next purchase. I have one good used bookstore in my area and love it. I'm slowly going through my print library and culling the one-and-done books and the books I want to transition over to ebook.
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Post by: Shanna Moncuse on January 25, 2016, 06:16:17 PM
Yep! I love looking at my collection, sitting there on my shelves. :) I'm running out of room, but, I won't let that stop me! ;)

I like used bookstores to find old, out-of-print manga for cheap. On online sites, they can be way overpriced so I'm always thrilled to find them for half their original price (maybe less) at a used bookstore.
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Post by: LDB on January 25, 2016, 07:18:57 PM
Used book stores are great. Jem Books is "my" local used book store. Then again, any used book store is "my" used book store if I'm around it with time to spare.
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Post by: Tony Richards on January 26, 2016, 08:19:14 AM
I still buy paperbacks, yes. But here in the UK, most charity thrift stores carry secondhand books, and have largely driven used booksellers out of business. Which is a real shame, but is just one of those modern-day developments that seems inevitable.
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Post by: JeanetteRaleigh on February 15, 2016, 06:14:20 PM
Yes.  For Christmas I got Jessica Shirvington's Embrace series as hardbacks.  I love paper books, but must admit that they take up a lot more space than the kindle.
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Post by: KeraEmory on February 15, 2016, 07:37:14 PM
The boyfriend and I make a couple trips to B&N (only option) per month. We both primarily buy non-fiction in print: travel, history, cooking, books on writing craft for me, technical/engineering books for him.

He likes his fiction in hard copy, I like mine digital. But I'm seriously old school on ebooks--I'm part of the group who trading hand-scanned ebooks 20 years ago because there WAS no way to buy them at that point. I used to read on a Palm Pilot. Yikes.
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Post by: LiterallyJen on March 07, 2016, 05:20:41 PM
I accidentally ordered a paperback copy of "One Evening in Paris." It's $2.99 for Kindle, and that's what I meant to order.

I should have checked my order slip more carefully and not one-clicked. :-)

Other than that, I almost always buy Kindle copies, unless it's a book I would like for a collectible.
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Post by: Nikki Vaughn on March 08, 2016, 04:19:12 AM
I don't really buy new paper books anymore unless its a gift for someone else.  Anything new I tend to get now as an e-book unless the price is crazy prohibitive.

On the other hand I absolutely adore used book stores and things like library sales. I buy used books all the time. Partially because you can get best sellers so super cheap in most cases. And partially because it's like going on a treasure hunt. I love digging through stacks of books to find the gems that I want to read. It helps that there are some fantastic used bookstores where I live, though.
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Post by: luxebookcovers on March 20, 2016, 02:47:29 PM
I love printed books. This year I've bought six books and I plan to but more :)

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Post by: niahflame on March 21, 2016, 08:08:34 AM
I sell my physical books at Half-Price Books. As for buying, very rarely. I usually get ebooks if they're under five dollars. I request books at the library. EVERY book I suggest for purchase, has been bought. It may take up to 4 months but I get them! :-) They also have a thing on their website where I can suggest ebooks that aren't in the catalog, but those are rarely bought. My Marion County Library of Indianapolis rocks!
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Post by: alawston on March 21, 2016, 08:43:51 AM
I was in a second hand bookshop yesterday, as it happens. And even though I made my latest beeline for the SF&F shelves, before skirting round general fiction and a quick look at the cookbooks, I ended up buying an Alan Ayckbourn play which caught my eye, and which I'm now hoping to direct with my community theatre group.

None of that would have happened if I'd just spent 20 minutes on Amazon.
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Post by: SevenDays on March 21, 2016, 02:41:20 PM
Wow, I can't recall the last time I was in a bookstore for a book for myself; these days I'm strictly an ebook reader. But I much prefer paper for my daughter (she's three).

Regarding used bookstores, we've got a Powell's nearby and they sell used and new together on the same shelves, which I've always found interesting.
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Post by: lindnet on March 21, 2016, 05:44:55 PM
It's weird....I went almost completely digital for reading for several years.  In the last year or so, I've found myself enjoying paper books again and wanting to read them more often than my Kindle books.  I'm not sure why or what changed, but I'm just going with it.  I still read the Kindle when I'm out and about....vacation or what have you, but at home it's usually paper.  And I LOVE bookstores.  Whenever I visit my son in Portland, OR, a trip to Powell's is a given.
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Post by: Fergusanthony on March 25, 2016, 02:00:59 PM
More often than not these days I buy secondhand books, often from charity shops. The big bookshops tend to carry an increasing number of books by a shrinking number of authors. I expect I'll always favour physical books; secondhand books have a history that  ebooks lack. There  are also a lot of people who insist that ebooks aren't real books.
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Post by: S P Oldham on March 26, 2016, 09:11:39 AM
I still buy 'proper' books regularly. As much as I love my Kindle, nothing beats a good solid book in your hands imo. Plus I love to see bookshelves full of books too, makes the place more homely somehow.

I have always fancied running a little second hand book store - I can see myself nestled in a shop, tucked away in some quaint, picturesque alleyway somewhere in a bustling seaside town...
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Post by: Azureintentions on March 29, 2016, 07:07:45 AM
Not buying paper back books would be like not buying a wrist watch because they now have the time on microwaves- 


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Post by: Ann in Arlington on March 29, 2016, 03:04:09 PM
Not buying paper back books would be like not buying a wrist watch because they now have the time on microwaves- 


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Nope. Not a good analogy. 'Cause you don't carry microwaves around with you -- though you might carry a phone or tablet, and so might not need a wristwatch.

You DO -- or at least can carry an eReader. Arguably it can go anywhere a paper back can go. And if you have an eReader full of books, there's no need to carry a paper book.

And, for the record, I know a lot of people who no longer wear a watch because they have the time on their phone -- or, if they do wear a watch, it's a 'smart watch' so they can access stuff on their phones.

Just sayin' ;)
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Post by: Azureintentions on April 07, 2016, 10:55:59 AM
I appreciate you taking the time to say...

You've pointed out the absurdity I was eluding to- perhaps next time I'll elaborate on the sarcasm that fills the gap between wrist watch and microwave- and compare it more closely to the absurdity of no longer buying books as I see it.   :o 

Over and out-  My microwave indicates I must run-   

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Post by: Mike D. aka jmiked on April 08, 2016, 09:08:20 PM
Although I buy mostly ebooks, I still buy the occasional printed book. These are mostly books that I consider 'special' for some reason. Such as a 'coffee-table' book abut Downton Abbey behind-the-scenes. Just about any book that will have photos are bought as printed books. Some programming books I've bought the printed version just because the highlighting of various items still doesn't work right in the ebook versions I've looked at.

And I'm glad that used bookstores are making a comeback. Those printed books are much more likely to be here after the apocalypse (I'm only half kidding).


Mike
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Post by: Howtoguru on April 10, 2016, 08:48:56 AM
Mostly, I buy the electronically downloadable books from Kindle.  But there are certain authors from bygone eras I still like to read so when I see a used book store, I head in there and spend time.  Paperbacks are still fun - I like to hold them and I love the smell of an old used bookstore.  One thing I like to do is have at least one or two paperbound books on the go so I have something to read while sitting outside on my deck on a sunny day.  You can read a paperback in bright sunshine, but reading a Kindle is tough!  Wonder if you can get Kindle readers with miniature awnings on them these days - like you can get when you buy an RV?  Need more shade to read my Kindle outside!

Best wishes, - Dan
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Post by: A.G. Richards on April 16, 2016, 03:55:05 PM
Since I do all my work on a laptop screen, I don't want to be doing all my reading on a screen as well. Kindles are great for commuting and vacations, but when at home I much prefer a paperback.
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Post by: Betsy the Quilter on May 12, 2016, 08:09:52 PM
I appreciate you taking the time to say...

You've pointed out the absurdity I was eluding to- perhaps next time I'll elaborate on the sarcasm that fills the gap between wrist watch and microwave- and compare it more closely to the absurdity of no longer buying books as I see it.   :o 

Over and out-  My microwave indicates I must run-   

I actually do check the time on my microwave---we no longer get a wall clock because so many appliances/devices have clocks built in.

And I still buy books.  They're on my Kindle. :D

Betsy
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Post by: Betsy the Quilter on May 12, 2016, 08:11:14 PM
Mostly, I buy the electronically downloadable books from Kindle.  But there are certain authors from bygone eras I still like to read so when I see a used book store, I head in there and spend time.  Paperbacks are still fun - I like to hold them and I love the smell of an old used bookstore.  One thing I like to do is have at least one or two paperbound books on the go so I have something to read while sitting outside on my deck on a sunny day.  You can read a paperback in bright sunshine, but reading a Kindle is tough!  Wonder if you can get Kindle readers with miniature awnings on them these days - like you can get when you buy an RV?  Need more shade to read my Kindle outside!

Best wishes, - Dan


Hmmm.... I've never had any trouble reading my Kindle in the sun--that's where eInk has it all over tablets.  Do you have a Fire by chance?

Betsy
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Post by: Abalone on May 13, 2016, 01:14:42 AM
I still buy paperback and hardcover. My hardcover purchases are usually non-fiction, some fiction and cooking. Call me a poser, but I love buying Barnes and Noble collectible editions in hardcover. I've even bought books I never liked simply because they're elegant and maybe someone else will enjoy them one day.
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Post by: Andra on May 13, 2016, 08:40:31 AM
One thing I like to do is have at least one or two paperbound books on the go so I have something to read while sitting outside on my deck on a sunny day.  You can read a paperback in bright sunshine, but reading a Kindle is tough!  Wonder if you can get Kindle readers with miniature awnings on them these days - like you can get when you buy an RV?  Need more shade to read my Kindle outside!

I've been reading outside in the sunshine with my e-ink Kindles from the beginning.  It's been one of the major selling points for reading on a dedicated device rather than a tablet or phone.  Do you maybe have one of the first Fire tablets when they were still called "Kindle Fire"?  If so, that would explain the difficulty with reading in sunlight.

I purchase print books for cookbooks, technical books, and collectible children's books.  Everything else has gone digital.
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Post by: Spittyfish on May 13, 2016, 09:28:20 AM
yes, I still buy them, and mostly used ones, but for quite a number of years I worked in a bookstore and I could read reading copies. I do love reading under the glow of my appliance at night though. It's just so darn convenient. I think for me a lot of the reason I still buy paperbacks is the price. Some ebooks are expensive and they can't be displayed on my bookshelf. I buy my favourite stories in paperback.
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Post by: lyndabelle on June 01, 2016, 11:37:27 AM
I've been reading on my Kindle now for several years, and still find every once in a while I will get a paperback, usually as a gift. I think it's interesting to see how the used book stores and Indie book stores are doing better. Amazon got rid of their competition, the chain book stores. It gives them a chance to flourish, because I don't think paperbooks will go away completely. Even vinyl is coming back, mostly I think, because the Millennials didn't get a chance to see what they were. It intrigues them. Might be the same for paper books in the future. It might change over to everything being POD, and you'd get the choice of paper book or digital book.  :D

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Post by: H7Py49 on June 02, 2016, 04:30:30 AM
I'm reading a series and started with #1.  My library has them in Kindle ebooks, but there are some gaps. Got the hardcover editions of  #5 and #6. Number 6 was really small print, and they didn't have an extra large print version for checkout. Not too much fun. I especially had a hard time finding where I left off. Now I'm on #7 and back to my beloved Kindle, which is set at the zoom I like and lighting on 17 - hog heaven.
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Post by: gerard_blalock on June 03, 2016, 06:32:23 AM
I still love physical books, and I'm obsessed with used bookstores. I can do a lot of damage to my wallet in a 2nd and Charles. And as much as I love this new trend of big used bookstores, I have to admit feeling a little conflicted that they are now big corporate chains. I've got nothing against chain stores per se, I just want my used bookstores to be a little more cramped and quiet.

The thing I love about buying used books is that moment when I run across something weird or with an interesting cover and only have to risk a couple bucks on it. I've stumbled across some things I never would have found, like an old horror anthology edited by Alfred Hitchcock and a few late 19th century adventure novels. I know you can do the same thing with ebooks, but somehow browsing through pages on an electronic store has never awakened that same sense of adventure for me.

All that being said, I do love my kindle, too.
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Post by: Don DeBon on June 18, 2016, 02:34:39 PM
While I like paper books in general, I prefer ebooks due to space concerns.  That and some new books I have purchased in the past really reaked smell wise for some reason.  Gave me a headache trying to read them.  I never have that problem with ebooks. ;)

I think used book stores will make a comeback for the simple reason that triditional publishing are fighting as hard as they can to promote paper books and diminish ebooks.  To see that in action all you need to do is look at the prices these days.  $13+ for a paperback and $12 or $11 for a ebook?  That is crazy and most readers know this causing them to buy the paper book instead.  Which is what the publishers want. 

There was a report released recently about how print sales are up vs ebook sales.  A bunch of articles after were trying to tell publishers that they need to wise up if they want more sales.  The problem is, they are not being dumb, this is exactly what they want.  More print sales and little or none of ebook sales that is their game plan.  All of the big 5 in NYC hate ebooks, always have.  And are doing all they can to undermine the ebook ecosystem.
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on June 18, 2016, 04:30:40 PM
While I like paper books in general, I prefer ebooks due to space concerns.  That and some new books I have purchased in the past really reaked smell wise for some reason.  Gave me a headache trying to read them.  I never have that problem with ebooks. ;)

I think used book stores will make a comeback for the simple reason that triditional publishing are fighting as hard as they can to promote paper books and diminish ebooks.  To see that in action all you need to do is look at the prices these days.  $13+ for a paperback and $12 or $11 for a ebook?  That is crazy and most readers know this causing them to buy the paper book instead.  Which is what the publishers want. 

There was a report released recently about how print sales are up vs ebook sales.  A bunch of articles after were trying to tell publishers that they need to wise up if they want more sales.  The problem is, they are not being dumb, this is exactly what they want.  More print sales and little or none of ebook sales that is their game plan.  All of the big 5 in NYC hate ebooks, always have.  And are doing all they can to undermine the ebook ecosystem.

I think this is a bit of an oversimplification, but I admit that I've not got any data to support anything one way or the other.

I know this: I spend a lot more on reading material now than I used to when my only option was paper. And 99.99% of that spending is on electronic material. AND I'm reading a lot more overall.

With paper, one had to make a trip to the bookstore spend time looking around at what was on offer. And there was only so much space to store 'em, so you had to make your dollars go as far as possible. So paperbacks vs hardbacks, and being really careful about what you bought. If you got it home and realized it wasn't at all what you thought you were stuck with it in most cases.

Amazon helped some, with the ability to shop from your computer and have stuff delivered. And they had a return policy -- but still, kind of a pain to send a physical object back so one still took great care before clicking that buy button. And there was still the problem of storing the books!

When I saw the kindle first advertised I was ECSTATIC. Even though the price was a bit high, I would probably have bought it as soon as I saw it but even though that was the evening of the day it was announced, it was already sold out! :o :o CLEARLY Amazon touched a chord with the whole idea!!!

I read a lot more than I used to. Buy a lot of books -- there are a lot at really good prices if you look beyond the Big 5. Even there, if it was an author who I'd buy in hardback, I will pay the release price for the ebook. In a way, it has MORE value for me so if it's also less than the paper I'm good with that. If it's something I'd normally have waited for the paperback, I can still wait for the price to drop.

The other thing I'm doing much more now is borrowing from my local library! It's just so convenient! I have found, in the last year or two, that I've been reading a lot of 'big name' books as library borrows vs actually buying the book. Previously, bookstores were more convenient than any library branch, so I'd opt for buying vs borrowing. So, in a way, the big name publishers are getting LESS money now from me, even though I'm reading more -- because my spending is on cheaper ebooks both from them and indie or small publishers, and I'm doing a lot more library borrowing. :)
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Post by: ancaiovita on June 19, 2016, 10:23:09 AM
No matter how much you may love to read print books, when you are a compulsive reader you'll just go to the greener side of digital books as soon as you get your first e-book reader. It's just great to carry hundreds of books with you at all times.
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Post by: Kenton Crowther on June 26, 2016, 06:59:06 AM
As I live in rented accommodation I never know when I may have to move, so the Kindle has been a great asset in my life. Even so, there are some hardcoiver and paperback books I will never part with.  I have got rid of many books before a move, but there are those which, if I lost them, I would have to buy them again as "real" books. Wherever I go I take my four or five small bookcases, at least.
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Post by: Mark Darrah on July 07, 2016, 09:47:39 AM
The economics of buying Kindle books has changed so that you don't save as much buying ebooks as you used.  I enjoy reading indie authors whose work is sometimes only available as an ebook.  I buy used books if it's not available at Amazon or I can get a better price buying a slightly used paperback.

Mark Darrah
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Post by: rchapman1 on July 08, 2016, 09:54:17 PM
I much prefer paperbacks and often buy them at charity shops.  I don't collect them though, when I've read them I donate them back to the shop.  I occasionally buy a new book if it's something I would like to keep.
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Post by: harpwriter on July 09, 2016, 11:40:25 AM
I buy only paper books.  I actually don't own a kindle, and even the few kindle books I own (which can be read on a kindle app on a PC), I rarely read, because I just don't like reading on a screen of any sort.
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Post by: LDB on July 09, 2016, 01:23:17 PM
I don't disagree however reading on a Kindle app on a PC vs. a Kindle Voyage/Oasis is similar to driving a 17 year old Taurus or a new Lexus.
Title: Re: Do you still buy paper books? Used bookstores are making a comeback...
Post by: Ann in Arlington on July 09, 2016, 02:48:21 PM
I buy only paper books.  I actually don't own a kindle, and even the few kindle books I own (which can be read on a kindle app on a PC), I rarely read, because I just don't like reading on a screen of any sort.

Fair enough . . . . but you should know that the 'screen' of an eInk kindle is more like a paper page than it is like the screen of a computer -- whether desktop, laptop, or tablet.  Seriously. Don't discount it until you try it. :D
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Post by: LDB on July 10, 2016, 03:06:24 AM
^^^^ What she said is what I meant by the comparison. The screen/ink/page/display quality difference.
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Post by: LDB on July 10, 2016, 03:19:24 AM
For those who still like paper books check out 40 Acre Wood. It's a bookstore in Lexington, Texas. It's a very cool store with a great book lady that owns it. It's on Facebook as 40 Acre Wood. It's 147 miles from home and worth the drive for the excellent "book visiting" both with Heidi and the actual books.

I have no affiliation other than as a customer who enjoyed going there and will continue to go in the future.
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Post by: The Hologram Library on July 11, 2016, 02:30:02 PM
Yes, I still buy paperbacks, and hardbacks for that matter, mostly for reference books and the like. Even with Kindle's awesome search features and better T.O.C's it kind of hard to beat the ability to check the index in the back and then go to the page from there. Plus nothing quite beats new book smell.  ;D
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Post by: Norman Crane on July 13, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
I buy paper reference books but prefer hard- to softcovers. If I want another kind of book, fiction or non-fiction, on paper I get it from the library. Sometimes I look for used books online when I can't get them from the library. Generally, I prefer ebooks to paper books because they're more convenient to carry, more customizable to read and they take up much less space.
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Post by: Victoria.T76 on July 15, 2016, 03:20:27 AM
I still buy paperbacks - new and in charity shops. I even still go to the library every week :)

I have a kindle, but only tend to read books on it in between picking up a physical book.
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Post by: V.P. on July 25, 2016, 09:21:09 AM
I used to love browsing through used bookstores. As ebooks grew in popularity, however, most of those in the area where I lived ended up closing. Glad to hear that they are making a comeback.
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Post by: Ryn Shell on August 17, 2016, 05:20:38 PM
A book is a book, is a book, is a book. I will devour it in any form. I am a bookaholic.
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Post by: Melanie Underwood on August 20, 2016, 06:08:27 AM
I still prefer the feel, and smell, of a 'real' book, and regularly use either my local second-hand bookstore, which has been there for years and has an incredible stock, or I'll visit my local library.  Both are really handy for bestsellers, I've just read The Kite Runner (purchased from the second-hand bookstore) and am now reading John Grisham - Rogue Lawyer (on loan from the library) that would otherwise be for sale at around £10, which is an extravagance for me.  When you can easily read a novel a day - I started Rogue Lawyer last night and am already two-thirds of the way through -it soon becomes expensive!

I find the constant page turning when using a Kindle mildly irritating, but agree that with larger heavier novels the Kindle can be much easier to handle, and it's great for travelling and reading outdoors when the weather is breezy - perfect for on the beach or by a pool, as I hope to rediscover before too long!
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Post by: MarkShark on August 21, 2016, 09:17:20 AM
I'm quite happy to buy used books. Unfortunately, the selection where I live is pretty sparse for my areas of interest. I tend to buy ebooks more these days. One aspect of digital that I really like is the ability to easily search a book.
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Post by: Jill Nojack on August 21, 2016, 01:36:23 PM
My fiction reading is almost all eInk now. I have both a Scribd and KU subscription at this point (which is costing me almost nothing for the both of them due to Scribd free months and buying the KU two year subscription on Prime day, which I can deduct on my taxes because I'm a writer). Between the two of them, I'm not reading the latest blockbusters (never did), but of the 70 or so fiction books I read per year, I've got an amazing range of choices that are always with me, even if I only remembered to take my phone instead of one of readers or my Fire tablet.

Non-fiction has to be paper, though. And since I can usually get the used hard cover on Amazon for the same price as a paperback for older books, I go for the hardcover.

Digital just doesn't work for me for either learning or reference. There are a number of ebooks I've purchased that I ended up also buying the paperback or hardcover (if available) for the same reason. I know that textbooks are now digital, and I can't imagine how young people manage to eke any learning out of their pages.
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Post by: spellscribe on August 31, 2016, 02:55:16 AM
I squealed today when I saw a sign saying a book shop, assumedly second hand, is moving in on my daily walking route! Yay!


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Post by: 5ngela on November 10, 2016, 10:59:15 PM
Yes I still buy paper books. I love the convenience of ebook but the smell and touch of paper book. So I love and still buy both of them
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Post by: Shanna Moncuse on November 11, 2016, 04:59:34 PM
I went to Half-Priced Books on Monday.

I love finding little gems, books or manga I've never heard of. Plus, I do turn in books that I didn't really enjoy, so that's a plus (not sure if all used-bookshops do this, but Half-Priced Books pays you for your old books).
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Post by: Jasperwocky on November 17, 2016, 12:57:57 PM
Since my kindle was stolen (some poor Bogotano ladron probably thought he was getting a nice tablet, not sure how much he'll be able to sell a 4th gen basic kindle for) I've been reading paper books. I don't really like the e-reader apps on my phone/ipad.

I find used paperbacks have me reading far more widely. With e-readers there's always something in my preferred genre available. In the world of secondhand books you take a chance with what's there, which means I'm currently reading middlemarch and a history of the fur trade!
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Post by: cafecorner on November 24, 2016, 05:53:42 AM
I still prefer paper books (when on offer)
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Post by: aliceblossom on December 05, 2016, 02:25:35 PM
I do still buy paper backs if it's a book that I really enjoyed. There's something about having the physical version that makes it that much more personal. Also if I wanted to gift it to someone, I would have the option to do that too. If it's just a regular book, I would just order the ebook version most likely.
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Post by: JulianneQJohnson on January 14, 2017, 01:19:26 PM
I love my Kindle, but I still buy quite a few paper books.  Used bookstores and Library sales are an economical way to feed my book habit.  There are certainly a lot of free and cheap ebooks, but it can be difficult to wade through them to find the excellent ones.
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Post by: Kal241 on January 14, 2017, 01:47:41 PM
I exclusively buy paper books. No offense to Kindle users and e-readers, but I can't see the appeal. To me, there's no substitute for the feel of a hard copy in your hands.
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Post by: ellenoc on January 14, 2017, 02:18:19 PM
I haven't purchased a paper book of fiction since I got my first Kindle in May of 2008. In that time I've probably bought fewer than half a dozen non-fiction books that weren't available in digital format. For fiction, if it's not available as an ebook or from the library, I do without. So I read a few fiction stories in paper from the library each year, but not many.

When I got that first Kindle, my house was inundated with books. My bookshelves overflowed. Pretty much any nook or corner, including places like under the bed had a book or two there. Since then I cleaned out all those old books. I have three bookshelves left. One is devoted to reference books and non-fiction and on the others I have some old favorites that I kept. For instance, I have all the Dick Francis mysteries, most in hard cover (the old man, not the son) and some other favorites. Generally I'm too cheap to buy ebooks of books I already have, but recently I've come to realize that if those older books ever become available reasonably, I'll replace the paper copies and get rid of them in a heartbeat.

I actually dislike reading paperbacks these days. I'm used to being able to set the font I like in the size I like, and paperback type is scrunchy. For that matter so are some hard covers. I do spend more on books now than I used to. I used to do a lot more rereading than I do now with so many new-to-me digital books always at my fingertips.

If I didn't have a Kindle and had to read ebooks on my phone or on a computer screen, my attitude would be different. I've used the Kindle app on the phone a couple of times, but it's inferior in every way. I gave away that first Kindle and my Paperwhite, but I still have a Kindle Keyboard, Voyage, and Oasis, so fear of theft, damage, or loss doesn't stop me from taking one of the older Kindles with me when I'm out and about. I'd rather carry the extra device than be stuck with the app on the phone.
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on January 14, 2017, 02:43:19 PM
I exclusively buy paper books. No offense to Kindle users and e-readers, but I can't see the appeal. To me, there's no substitute for the feel of a hard copy in your hands.

A hard copy does feel wonderful in your hands. Especially if it's a very well produced hard copy. They also look really nice on a shelf. :D

But for me, for reading, Kindle is vastly superior. ;)

I can make the print as big as I need and use the most comfortable typeface to read;
I can carry as many books as I want so as to have a choice of reading material, without adding to the weight of what I have to carry;
if I run across a word I don't know or need to translate a foreign phrase I can look it up instantly;
my arms and hands don't get fatigued holding a a book open.
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Post by: anguabell on January 14, 2017, 02:46:49 PM
I buy printed books if they are not available on Kindle. There are quite a few, actually. I have no interest in "bestsellers" and often read rather obscure authors that have been out of print for decades. And I still like to read paper books. It just feels different. Slower. Which sometimes is a good thing.

Also non-fiction, say what you will, is much easier to read in the paper format. I understand I can "search" the ebooks but I prefer to look at the index, search the illustrations, compare different chapters in my history books etc.
And - cookbooks. I have quite a few on Kindle, but those are read mostly for the entertainment value. I much prefer paper cookbooks to risking the well-being of my Kindle or iPad in our small kitchen.
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Post by: ASDeMatteis on January 30, 2017, 10:45:57 AM
I almost always buy paper books (and 99% I buy hardcover). There's nothing wrong with ebooks, I just like the feeling of a book in hand.
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Post by: cagnes on January 30, 2017, 10:59:43 AM
A hard copy does feel wonderful in your hands. Especially if it's a very well produced hard copy. They also look really nice on a shelf. :D

But for me, for reading, Kindle is vastly superior. ;)

I can make the print as big as I need and use the most comfortable typeface to read;
I can carry as many books as I want so as to have a choice of reading material, without adding to the weight of what I have to carry;
if I run across a word I don't know or need to translate a foreign phrase I can look it up instantly;
my arms and hands don't get fatigued holding a a book open.

I agree with every point, except the wonderful feel of a hard copy in your hands.  ;) I think my kindle feels better. The only thing I feel a printed book (for reading) has over an ebook is that it's easier to visualize the artwork of the cover. I do appreciate a good printed cover.

I haven't read, borrowed or purchased a print book for myself in years.
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Post by: Mike D. aka jmiked on February 05, 2017, 10:57:24 PM
There seem to be a few people posting in this thread that say they don't buy Kindle/ebooks at all. I'm curious as to how they came to be on a forum dedicated to ebook reading. I'm not complaining, mind you. I'll welcome all readers here. I just find it curious.


Mike
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Post by: Anma Natsu on February 06, 2017, 05:59:53 AM
There seem to be a few people posting in this thread that say they don't buy Kindle/ebooks at all. I'm curious as to how they came to be on a forum dedicated to ebook reading. I'm not complaining, mind you. I'll welcome all readers here. I just find it curious.

In my case, because I'm a writer and KBoards was regularly mentioned/recommended on a few podcasts I listened to and came up in Google regularly when I was Googling questions on publication :)
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Post by: alawston on February 06, 2017, 06:28:16 AM
I bought my first trad-pub Kindle ebook for the first time in about a year yesterday - I only bought it because my wife and I bought a single signed copy of the hardback, and we both want to read it at the same time ;) I go through a steady supply of indie kindle books throughout most of my daily travels. Except right now I'm reading something so filthy I don't feel I want to be seen reading it on public transport...

Meanwhile, Waterstone's is now back in profit, and bookshops are just looking a little more optimistic about the future in the UK. Even the Amnesty International secondhand bookshop relocated to larger premises last year. The future's bright for paper.
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Post by: SB_ROOZ on February 08, 2017, 01:09:38 PM
I have ALWAYS been a huge fan of paperbacks and hardcovers. You just don't get the same experience with a Kindle ebook if you ask me (of course, as an author I have to like Kindle because they make the money). You can't smell the ink and paper with a Kindle, you don't have the thrill of turning the page to a new chapter heading... So I'm happy to hear that used book stores are making a comeback!
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on February 09, 2017, 03:56:54 AM
I have ALWAYS been a huge fan of paperbacks and hardcovers. You just don't get the same experience with a Kindle ebook if you ask me (of course, as an author I have to like Kindle because they make the money). You can't smell the ink and paper with a Kindle, you don't have the thrill of turning the page to a new chapter heading... So I'm happy to hear that used book stores are making a comeback!

Yep . . . can't smell ink and paper -- so it doesn't make you sneeze. ::)

Though a well produced kindle book does have chapter headings on new pages . . . . the turning is just a different movement.

Basically, I agree that it's not the SAME experience, but I can't agree -- as you seem to imply -- that it's an inferior experience. :D
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Post by: harpwriter on February 19, 2017, 07:02:03 AM
Fair enough . . . . but you should know that the 'screen' of an eInk kindle is more like a paper page than it is like the screen of a computer -- whether desktop, laptop, or tablet.  Seriously. Don't discount it until you try it. :D

Fair point about the difference between a laptop screen and a Kindle.  I just had to replace my laptop and got a 2-in-1 which can be used as a tablet.  The ability to hold it that way may also make a difference.  I may be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century yet! ;-)
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on February 19, 2017, 07:10:26 AM
Fair point about the difference between a laptop screen and a Kindle.  I just had to replace my laptop and got a 2-in-1 which can be used as a tablet.  The ability to hold it that way may also make a difference.  I may be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century yet! ;-)

I think that's absolutely true. I would pretty much never read for pleasure either on my desktop or laptop computer. But, if it was all I had available, I could do so on my tablet.
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Post by: barryem on February 19, 2017, 08:26:28 AM
I'm always a bit dismayed at the answers in this sort of discussion.  Talking about the smell of paper books and the convenience of ebooks or the safety of paper books near the pool seems to be all about peripheral issues.  Reading a book is about getting the words from the author into our head.  The rest is real but does it really matter?

I read ebooks because I have a Kindle and I live in a rural area with no car.  I've been reading ebooks for so many years, so many decades really, that right now I'm a little bit intimidated by paper books.  I recently bought 2 paper books from Amazon, books that I enjoyed 50 or so years ago but that I haven't been able to find as ebooks.  They're sitting here staring at me and I'm terrified.  My hope is that I'll eventually get up the courage to open one and actually try it, but I'm not all that hopeful.

One is a hardback and even when I read paper books I rarely read hardbacks.  Unfortunately it's the one I'm most eager to read.  But they're both going to be a challenge.  They won't hurt me, will they?  Maybe they'll be gentle!

I wrote that like a joke and it is a joke but that doesn't take one little bit away from it's truth. :)

All my life I loved book stores.  I spent many hours browsing through them.  I nearly always left with a book if I had the money.  I think I probably started browsing in them at about age 8 or 9.  When I retired I spent two or three days a week in book stores, drinking coffee, reading a book.  My favorite was Borders because their coffee was better.  Houston has a LOT of book stores and I'd go to a different one every time and spend the day reading.  I read quite a few books.  I paid for the reading by buying coffee at their inflated prices.  It was great.

But now it's been at least 20 years since I've read a paper book.  I'm really not sure I can do it again.  My usual reading places don't have enough light so I'll have to work out solutions to that.

And yes I do realize that all of this belies my opening sentiment.  :)

Barry

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Post by: anguabell on February 19, 2017, 03:59:16 PM
I'm always a bit dismayed at the answers in this sort of discussion.  Talking about the smell of paper books and the convenience of ebooks or the safety of paper books near the pool seems to be all about peripheral issues.  Reading a book is about getting the words from the author into our head.  The rest is real but does it really matter?

Yes and no. It is a bit like food. Sometimes it doesn't matter how it is served, sometimes it enhances (or takes away from) the experience. For some people food might be only about the taste and nutritious substance. Some might look at it differently, depending on circumstances :)  I understand your reluctance to read paper books after a long break - my husband feels the same after only 3 years of Kindle - but why not? With the good light (reading outside is a great thing) it could be like reconnecting with an old friend. Perhaps awkward at first, but before you know it, you'll be talking as if you've parted yesterday.
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Post by: barryem on February 19, 2017, 05:30:56 PM
I wish you hadn't used the food example.  Please use weaker arguments.  I hate being wrong. :)

I'm just about to finish my current book and I've been toying with the idea of starting one of the paper ones.  We'll see.  Actually there are reasons this might not be a good time to do that.  And maybe after my next book I'll be able to find another excuse. :)

Barry
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Post by: Raul Sanchez on March 05, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Reading on paper still has something special, and I hope it will continue to have despite all the digital invasion around us. Personally, I still prefer to read newspapers on paper and not on the internet, as well as some special books. But unfortunately, I understand that over time less paper will be sold, which is good for nature on the other hand.
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on March 05, 2017, 10:37:01 AM
Reading on paper still has something special, and I hope it will continue to have despite all the digital invasion around us. Personally, I still prefer to read newspapers on paper and not on the internet, as well as some special books. But unfortunately, I understand that over time less paper will be sold, which is good for nature on the other hand.

I feel the opposite about newspapers. Hardly ever read 'em the before Kindle because it was just so much mess and trouble -- huge pages to wrestle into submission and you finish with inky fingers. Much more pleasurable to read through and find relevant articles with my kindle edition. :D
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Post by: Raul Sanchez on March 06, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
Well, I was referring to newspapers of more manageable size, not that kind of English newspapers that look like bed sheets. Here, in Spain, they are usually more comfortable, smaller. But anyway, you are right, they are becoming obsolete and any kind of digital reader is winning the battle, unfortunately. But, at the other hand: the books or newspapers do not require batteries, nor updates, can not break down, they don't need internet connection - which is not always available - they have the smell and feel of the paper, do not require technological knowledge - even if not large, the ereader requires a minimum-, they do not have an initial high expense, and if you lose it the loss is not so great compared to e-readers. Anyway, I use both, and are complementary, or should be.
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Post by: Jake Parent on March 06, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
I read more and more eBooks, but there's still nothing quite like holding that paperback in my hands.
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Post by: Ann in Arlington on March 06, 2017, 03:10:46 PM
I read more and more eBooks, but there's still nothing quite like holding that paperback in my hands.

Yep. Nothing like it. Makes my hands ache like crazy. ::)  So I prefer e- at this point. ;)
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Post by: WriterSongwriter on March 07, 2017, 11:11:28 PM
I have gone back to reading paper books, because I mostly read when I'm away from home. I've lost several kindles. I'm often so busy that I tend to forget them and leave them behind. Same with books, but that doesn't matter that much.
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Post by: LDB on March 28, 2017, 02:15:01 PM
I exclusively buy paper books. No offense to Kindle users and e-readers, but I can't see the appeal. To me, there's no substitute for the feel of a hard copy in your hands.

One appealing quality is never flipping closed due to wind or gravity and losing one's place. I'm retired. I dine alone at breakfast and lunch. It takes two hands to read a print book which makes reading during meals more of a challenge. The Kindle lays on the table and as long as I keep one fingertip clean to touch the screen to turn the page I can read easily. It also fits in my pocket and weighs less than most books, especially if I take it out of the charging cover while reading (talking Oasis). And that's with over 200 books at hand. I'll never give up any of my printed books and I go back and read some of them over. I'll still even bring home printed books now and then. But the Kindle is exponentially more convenient.
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Post by: lmroth12 on March 28, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
I love my local used bookstore! I can find unique editions such as one of the original copies of The Buccaneers, the book Edith Wharton was writing when she died, as well as illustrated classics I remembered from childhood that I now read to a younger generation. But I also love to download a book on the spur of the moment to my kindle and set out on a new adventure!  :)
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Post by: Joe Vercillo on March 29, 2017, 07:29:48 AM
I prefer reading paperbacks, my favourite used book store is BMV in Toronto. They have a few locations, almost always have the books I'm after, and decent prices.
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Post by: William Peter Grasso on April 04, 2017, 07:31:55 AM
I consider used book stores a treasure. I'm thrilled to see there's data out there showing them coming back. There's one in my city (and only one, darn it, unless you count the college bookstore). I especially find them great places to seek research matter--especially info that's not necessarily mainstream. And yes, like so many of the replies above have stated, I still love the look and feel of a print book in my hands.
That said, I must come clean and say that almost of all of my reading these days--fiction and nonfiction--is done on my Kindles. The devices help me multi-task in ways not possible with paper, like reading at meals despite the culinary demands on my hands, while using exercise machines, etc. I especially like that when traveling, I carry a virtual library with me--with the ability to instantly acquire books I suddenly fancy--in the same compact device that provides my on-the-road email and internet access.
People often tell us our house looks like a library and nowadays, we take that as a compliment (in the early days of our marriage, I can still hear my mother's disparaging comment "You two use books as furniture." And she said it like it was a bad thing).
So yes, we own thousands of titles in print--but still love and depend on our ereaders.
WPG
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Post by: KyleConnor on April 05, 2017, 04:43:42 AM
Hmm. Paperbacks. Not really. I haven't bought a single paperback since I got my first kindle in 2012. It's easy to download a pdf on Amazon or read books online on sites like Bartleby (http://www.bartleby.com/). But I'll definitely visit one of these stores to get some books for my mom. She loves her books the old way.
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Post by: Tahereh K.V. Dehkordi on April 05, 2017, 06:33:47 AM
Why not?! I pride new technologies of book readers. But I haven't find a good replacement of my paperback books. I can convey them in flexible ways anywhere you think.
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Post by: KennySkylin on April 05, 2017, 03:22:31 PM
Yes, I still buy paper books. I love my Kindle and the convenience of ebooks, but sometimes I just want the experience of holding and flipping through a paper book. The feel, sound, and smell of a real book can never really be replaced totally. There is some tactile nostalgic thing going on there that I still enjoy from time to time.
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Post by: Lorri Moulton on April 05, 2017, 11:11:58 PM
Yes, I still buy paper books. I love my Kindle and the convenience of ebooks, but sometimes I just want the experience of holding and flipping through a paper book. The feel, sound, and smell of a real book can never really be replaced totally. There is some tactile nostalgic thing going on there that I still enjoy from time to time.

Kenny, I agree!  I love paperbacks, as long as the print is not too small.  (Full disclosure...that seems to be more of a problem recently than it used to be.)  I should add that my books are not in paper, but that's only because I am new to all this and saving up to buy my ISBN numbers!

Browsing in a used book store and finding the perfect book is a wonderful experience.  I am so happy to see that paper is not being phased out.  Ideally, having both gives everyone the most options...but paper cannot be updated or changed.  I keep thinking of that episode of Original Star Trek, where Kirk's attorney had all those old-fashioned, hard cover law books.  Something to be said for that! :)
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Post by: TT Rankin on April 06, 2017, 04:51:07 AM
I have a kindle, and it's used exclusively for games and streaming shows.  I read one ebook and that was it for me, there's something about holding a paperback in my hand that I'm not sure ill ever get over.

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Post by: Ann in Arlington on April 06, 2017, 12:37:56 PM
I have a kindle, and it's used exclusively for games and streaming shows.  I read one ebook and that was it for me, there's something about holding a paperback in my hand that I'm not sure ill ever get over.

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What you have is probably a Fire if you use it for games and videos. :) An eInk kindle is a very different reading experience to a tablet . . . much closer to a paper book.
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Post by: LDB on April 21, 2017, 06:05:50 PM
^^^ What she said plus all the free books you can get for the Kindle.
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Post by: Annon on April 30, 2017, 07:26:26 AM
I publish hardcovers and some paperback, and I must tell you that MY sales in the eBook format have declined since 2008-9 especially the Nook and iBook reader. I am a reprint publisher. Even my Kindle sales have experienced decline while my hardcover books have increased by around 11% per Ingram. So, when you write to the Kindle, it is wise to keep real book publishing in your wishlist. Someone (a Publisher) may pick up your book for either foreign translation or print rights however remote that possibility is.

Oh yes, I also buy real books! Kindle is only to introduce your work and get some exposure IMHO.    :)
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Post by: LauraB on April 30, 2017, 07:57:30 AM
I read around 100 books a year, almost never read kindle only published or self published books on kindle.  Learned early I just don't like the quality of most so don't spend my time on them.  Almost all the books I read are kindle versions unless it isn't available.  I have a BA in Literature so maybe I just got over the paper feel thing. To me it is quality of writing and convenience of the kindle. I like have so many books at my fingertips, being able to control font and lighting, and the translation option is nice as well. To each their own. But I don't aagreecat all with the person who thought kindle was just to introduce to readers. But then again maybe it's a genre thing.
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Post by: BiancaSommerland on May 08, 2017, 07:43:03 AM
I love going to used bookstores. And new bookstores. And digital bookstores! lol

Sometimes I need to close all technology and just soak in the words of a great book. I love my kindle, but I'm horrible at keeping it charged. And since I work behind a screen all day it's nice to look at something completely different.

I'm also one of those people who love the feel and smell of books.  8)
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Post by: SherritheWriter on May 10, 2017, 01:28:36 PM
I swore off hardbacks when I got my Kindle, because they're not portable or easy to handle. i occasionally buy a paperback, and it's almost always at a secondhand book store, because that's almost all that's available. We have a Books a Million a few miles away (in a high traffic area) and our one and only Barnes & Noble is clear across town so far away, that for all intents and purposes, it IS out of town. Of course, ebooks on Kindle are my main reads now. But I'll get nostalgic and buy a paperback every now and then.
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Post by: Erin Zarro on May 16, 2017, 04:21:54 PM
I have two Kindles, and I still from time to time read paperbacks/hardcovers. I can't seem to give them up. There's nothing like holding a book in your hand. But, Kindles/ereaders are great for portability and storage (if I had 3,000 paperbacks here at home? We'd have no room for anything else!).
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Post by: LDB on May 22, 2017, 04:54:26 PM
With the price of Kindle books going up and up and up it's becoming more and more beneficial to shop the used book stores for paperbacks to save money.
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Post by: rchapman1 on May 23, 2017, 12:19:01 AM
I still prefer a paperback and often get them in the charity shops - they are really well-priced and when I've read it I can donate it back again.
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Post by: Alberto L Pupo on June 06, 2017, 08:58:51 AM
I personally purchase more book digitally out of sheer convenience. But I will stay buy hardcovers and paperback from time to time. Just not as frequently. I think one of the biggest edges that the digital format has is quite frankly storage space. For example I am a voracious reader and in my reader I can store about 400 books. If I tries to do that with paperback, I really would not have the storage space. So that is one big advantage over digital not to mention in the end it is more cost effective as well.
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Post by: padowd on June 10, 2017, 02:26:03 PM
I still love paper books. I like to hold them, smell them and read them. We have a library in our home and we have a ton of books. We have been collecting for a long time though. My husband and I both have two Kindles and we love them. We have hundreds of books on them and we love to take them on vacation or just out and about town. Much better than taking a paper book. We have a couple used bookstores in our town and we love to go in from time to time and browse. I am happy to see that maybe they want go away. I grew up with my dad and I getting up on a Saturday morning and heading to the two used bookstores in our town. My mom did not read so it was a special time for us to be able to spend it together. He and I were both avid readers so I have a special love for bookstores. I grew up on Nancy Drew books. My dad loved science fiction and fantasy which i have never really liked. But yes,I will always buy and surround myself with paper books even though I love my Kindles.
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Post by: DesignEbookCover on June 11, 2017, 06:56:27 AM
Comeback is a strong word. I don't know if it's true, i can tell you that in my home town there is a new store that sells used books for low prices.
I for once like to read real books I find it really hard reading articles or books from digital screen it simply easier to read from a paper than from a screen.
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Post by: dbonline on July 19, 2017, 09:10:55 AM
I do still buy paper books, I love my e reader its handy for when I am at appointments or travelling somewhere so I don't have to carry something bulky with e and hope it doesn't rip or get damaged, I still love paper books too, for some reason it helps me to relax more at night when i'm reading a paper book just before bed.
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Post by: AriadneBeckett on July 25, 2017, 07:42:34 PM
I love paper, but after moving and having to pack and haul my book collection, I'm sticking to electronic wherever possible.
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Post by: EA Cruz on July 26, 2017, 06:33:08 PM
The return of old school bookstores is awesome news. Really.

I love paperback books.

I love the texture.

I love the slight scent when I turn the page.

While I read mostly digital books nowadays, when I read a paperback or hardcover book, I get nostalgic.
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Post by: KatharineWolfe on July 27, 2017, 12:26:52 PM
I personally do, I love it! While having an ereader is great for taking with me on the bus/to uni etc, I have a dream of one day having a house with a room I'll make into a library, so I'm always collecting books. As for used book stores, I am ALL about them! I was just at one yesterday that lets you bring in old books for store credit. I ended up getting $70 worth of books for free! 
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Post by: AlexaBarret on July 28, 2017, 06:07:35 AM
paper books
I don`t know maybe it sounds funny but a paper book is the best one for the reading. I like touching the book I`m reading!  ;D
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Post by: padowd on July 29, 2017, 07:25:34 AM
I love used book stores. As a child and young teen my Dad and I would get up ever Saturday morning and head down to the 2 used bookstores in our town. He was a avid reader as was I. My mother did not like to read at all so this was a special time for just me and my Dad. We would spend several hours looking through all the books. I love the smell of the books and just holding the book in my hand. I guess for me it is a nostalgic thing. We have a huge book library in our home. When I find a author I like I would always get all their books especially a series type and over the years we have collected tons. We are now looking to down size since we are retired and I am hating the thought of getting rid of my books. We will probably donate to our library because they have a used book room. We both have 2 Kindles and really enjoy them but to me I will always love the paper book.
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Post by: A.Q. on July 29, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
As much as I like kindle, there's something I like about having a physical book in my hands. I have 4 book cases in my house - including a floor to ceiling one - and they are all full. At last count I had something on the order of 400 books - non-fiction, fiction, music scores etc etc . I am a prolific collector of the old EU of Star Wars, the post-Nemesis novels of Star Trek, Tom Clancy, J K Rowling, Stephen King and Peter Hamilton.

Over time, as my physical copies die from being read too often, I'm replacing them with electronic copies
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Post by: KathyWren on July 31, 2017, 08:08:06 PM
Count me in as another lover of print books. I read e-books because they're affordable in bulk, but print books are my best friends. When I run into them around the house, I only have to see the cover to remember the plot and what it made me feel when I read it. I don't seem to make the same connection with e-book covers, possibly because I only see it once rather than every time I pick it up. 

...now I feel guilty for doing so much electronic reading lately.  I'm going to go make sure my books know that I still love them.  :)
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Post by: anguabell on August 01, 2017, 12:58:21 PM
...now I feel guilty for doing so much electronic reading lately.  I'm going to go make sure my books know that I still love them.  :)

That's exactly how I sometimes feel :)
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Post by: FrancisLeggett on August 02, 2017, 03:52:39 PM
I don't think I could ever bring myself to completely give up books in their physical form. If I want to relax at home with a good book, that's when I truly rely on paperbacks. I tend to save my kindle for travelling and holidays, so in that sense it's a total lifesaver. I mean what would a holiday be without a few good books? :)
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Post by: Elsye_Harwood on August 07, 2017, 02:09:19 PM
I  still prefer print books. I know they take up a lot  of room, but there's something comforting  about having book shelves around the house.
We're in the process of downsizing, so we've had to throw some out and it's been such a wrench.  I have to add that they all went to the charity shop. I'd never throw a book away.
And it was only a couple of bags in the end  because I  couldn't quite bring myself to get rid of them. You see, I might read them again. You never know.  ;)


 
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Post by: LovingLife139 on October 03, 2017, 08:11:14 PM
That's all I buy. I have a Kindle, but I've only read one book on it and now just use it to double check the formatting on my own books. Paperbacks smell and feel better (ha). Also, most of the books I read (non-fiction accounts of war generals and the like) are too expensive on Kindle to justify not having something tangible. I also love graphic novels and manga, and I own a Paper White (I think, I don't even know for sure!), so I can't enjoy the art, which is half the fun with such books.

I will not read on Kindle unless I am eventually forced to (by lack of paperbacks or worsening eyesight). Who knows? Maybe when it comes to that I won't read at all anymore. Currently, if I find a book that sounds good and it's only available in e-book form, I just don't read it.  :(
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Post by: storyteller on October 09, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
I have to buy print books, many authors are not in ebook form. 
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Post by: HeidiHoughting on October 09, 2017, 11:56:44 PM
When I'm at the airport I love to buy a book for the trip, there's something about the weight of it in your hands, the flip of the crisp pages... Holding a book, like stroking a cat - is comforting. I think there is also some research that suggests you remember more when you read from a book than from a screen. :)
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Post by: KateEllison on October 22, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
I do about half of my reading while sitting with a child who's having trouble falling asleep, so I really need my kindle and its backlight! So I don't typically buy print books anymore. And I almost exclusively borrow ebooks from the library as well. It's that instant gratification...
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Post by: Rod Little on October 26, 2017, 11:41:54 PM
While my Kindle is indispensable, I do love paper.  90% of my reading is on kindle or a tablet, but I'll never fully give up paperbacks. The feel of a good book in your hands is fantastic, like holding gold coins stolen from the coffers of a palace.
The smell of a new paperback is also quite intoxicating. haha
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Post by: Jan Hurst-Nicholson on October 27, 2017, 06:55:06 AM
I vividly remember in pre-computer days being invited to someone's home for the first time and having a feeling that there was something 'wrong'. It took me a while to realise there were no bookcases, or even books lying around.
I also knew someone who would arrive early to pick up a first date so that he had time to browse her bookshelves to see what type of books she read.
I think computers and  e-readers might have changed all this  ::)
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Post by: Jim Johnson on November 20, 2017, 07:45:18 AM
I vividly remember in pre-computer days being invited to someone's home for the first time and having a feeling that there was something 'wrong'. It took me a while to realise there were no bookcases, or even books lying around.
I also knew someone who would arrive early to pick up a first date so that he had time to browse her bookshelves to see what type of books she read.
I think computers and  e-readers might have changed all this  ::)


Sadly, some people 'stage' their living rooms with bookshelves and curated titles that they don't read but present to guests to come across as intellectual or hip or whatever. And there are people paid to help people create that curated list. Crazy world.
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Post by: Jan Hurst-Nicholson on November 20, 2017, 09:57:57 AM

Sadly, some people 'stage' their living rooms with bookshelves and curated titles that they don't read but present to guests to come across as intellectual or hip or whatever. And there are people paid to help people create that curated list. Crazy world.

I know some hotels buy books 'by the yard' to furnish their 'libraries' or communal rooms  ::).
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Post by: Jim Johnson on November 20, 2017, 10:09:59 AM
Ugh. I've seen people buy books based on their cover colors so that they coordinate with the color scheme in their rooms. They don't read the books...just use them as props.   :'(
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Post by: Jan Hurst-Nicholson on November 20, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Ugh. I've seen people buy books based on their cover colors so that they coordinate with the color scheme in their rooms. They don't read the books...just use them as props.   :'(

Funny you should mention that. A neighbour gave me two bags of books to give to the church library. I asked if it was ok for me to read some before handing them over. I chose 8 books and placed them on my bedside table. Everyone of them had a blue cover - and my bedroom is painted in pale blue. Was it some sort of subliminal choice?