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No. Kindles have no Bluetooth.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New Kindle Firmware Update 5.9.4
« on: May 16, 2018, 07:01:58 PM »
I just manually updated my Voyage to and it caused the voyage to loose all downloaded books as well as not showing those not downloaded.  I did go to content and devices and was able to deliver some.  I have left it most of the day, since this morning and it has only shown a relative few in all and the same in downloaded.  I hope it repopulates overnight, as I like having the entire kindle library at my fingertips when traveling.

I don't know about manually updating a Kindle but I do a factory reset at least once a year on my two Kindle. The reset removes my library and I have to download books again. I don't have all 2,847 books on my Kindle. I usually have two or three pages and remove the books as I read them. I am rarely where I don't have access to WiFi so my books are "at my fingertips". If I didn't have WiFi I'd spend the extra  and get cell data.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Two kindles
« on: May 03, 2018, 07:32:07 AM »
A. If you mean will it download the book to your other Kindle without you doing anything, no.
B. If you have the book on both Kindle's, sorted by most recent, the one you're reading on your Kindle is not considered being read on your other Kindle. So, it doesn't go to the top of the list as "most recent".

I have two Kindle Paperwhites. When I'm reading on one and it needs a charge I go to my other Kindle. The other Kindle usually does not have the book I'm currently reading downloaded so I click "search" and then type what I hope is a unique word for the title or author of the current book. I don't have to type the entire title or author's name.

But, my two Kindles will not sync my download list and if I have the book on both Kindles it does not adjust "most recent" on Kindle B when I start reading a book on Kindle A. I hope this is clear. It gets a little confusing.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Kindle Paperwhite 4 rumor!!
« on: April 30, 2018, 06:52:52 PM »
It's settled. No matter what Kindle does, somebody isn't going to be happy.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Kindle Paperwhite 4 rumor!!
« on: April 27, 2018, 05:13:36 PM »
The reason that I need buttons is simple: I hold the Kindle in my left hand.  Having to reach across the screen to swipe or tap to turn the page is not efficient or comfortable.  If they gave me a way to change the tap areas on the screen so I could just tap the left edge of the page to go forward, that would eliminate my need for page-turn buttons (now that I'm over the fingerprints on the screen worry).

Being older than most trees means I grew up in a time when you were forced to be right handed. My left hand was tied to my leg, to my desk, to a large briefcase and I was hit. It always bothered my father that out of three left-handed kids only one refused to change.
I was also raised in the South and reconstruction wasn't totally done. There were no baseball gloves for your right hand. When I did my mandatory time in the military the rifles ejected the hot empties into you face and down your shirt if you shot left handed. Then, when I hired on as a police officer they had no holsters for the left side.

So, I became fairly ambidextrous. But, when I hold my Kindle in my left hand, I swipe to the right to go back a page and to the left to advance a page. You can do that on any part of the screen you want.

I can see the need for a home button, though. I have to go "home" when I finish a book. I have to tap the screen twice to go "home" and select a new book and remove the book I finished from my screen. I suppose speed readers have to do that two or three times a day but I go "home" a lot less often.

I am honestly excited about a PW4 and am most anxious about a decent case with no origama or battery gimmicks.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Kindle Paperwhite 4 rumor!!
« on: April 27, 2018, 07:44:55 AM »
It just shows how difficult it must be for Amazon to please everyone and how important it is for them to have a wide range of different Kindles. All the things you've listed as wanting - all the buttons, the mellower screen etc, are all the things I really dislike. I'd choose the Voyage over the current Oasis or Paperwhite every time. This is why, like Ann, I'm hoping that the better features of the Voyage are incorporated into the new Paperwhite.

I want buttons almost as much as I want a hand crank to start my car. I thought the Amazon case for the Voyage should have embarrassed them, but it took the Oasis 2 case to do that. For me, the Voyage was too thin and too lightweight. My Paperwhite is big enough for me to hold onto and it's still lighter than a large paperback. Flush screen would be okay and I like the power button on the back of the device instead of hidden on the bottom.

I gave my Voyage to a college student. I bought six after-market cases and they either didn't work or were slick plastic.

I am eagerly looking forward to the PW4.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Kindle Paperwhite 4 rumor!!
« on: April 26, 2018, 04:35:05 AM »
As described, I'll order two ASAP. My dream is that it will have USBc with rapid charging. My only USB micro devices are Kindles and I could pass a load of USB micro cables and charges onto others.

If the new Paperwhite doesn't fit  in the existing Paperwhite case, I hope Amazon Kindle abandons the idea that cases need to be cutesy or for personalization of the device. They're to protect the device and make handling easier.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Help choosing Kindle
« on: April 21, 2018, 07:25:35 AM »
I'm older than most trees.

I read with my left eye closed. I probably need new glasses.

I am clumsy and the last Amazon Kindle case that was, in my opinions, worth beans for usability and protection is the Paperwhite case.

I have arthritis in my hands and want manual page turn buttons almost as much as I want a hand crank to start my car. Tapping the page is better.

Amazon has a 30-day no-questions asked return policy. I bought an Oasis 2, spent two days with it, saw the Amazon cover was to personalize your Kindle and not protect it, and returned it. No muss, no fuss. Amazon's customer service is outstanding.

I would try the Paperwhite first, the Voyage second. I should warn you that there is evidence of Apple sending out assassins from Cupertino when Apple users abandon any Apple device.

I bought one and sent it back. I liked the larger screen but being a guy, I don't carry a large purse. I like being able to slip my Paperwhite, in it's excellent protective  Amazon Kindle case, in my pants pocket or a lower pocket on my Guayabera shirt. The Oasis won't fit.

I got rid of my Voyage because the Amazon Kindle case was ludicrous and I couldn't find a case I like. At the time I got my Oasis I couldn't get a Amazon Kindle case and when it came available it had a warning that it was intended to just personalize the device and not protect it. Ridiculous.

And, I need page turning buttons on my Kindle as much as I need page turning buttons on my cell phone. That would be about as much as I need a hand crank to start my car or a analog dial to change channels on a television.

When you factor in the cost, I'd get a Paperwhite and a Amazon Kindle case.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New Champagne Gold Kindle Oasis
« on: March 16, 2018, 06:34:52 AM »
This does not bode well for my future with Kindle. I don't need a $1,000 Kindle that's really pretty to read my books. On the other hand, a man I know asked me if people would think he was cool if he had a Kindle. I told him that if he wanted to buy cool he should go with Apple. It looks like Kindle wants in on Apple's base.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: How Long Do Your Kindle Ereaders Last?
« on: February 26, 2018, 05:25:51 AM »
I always upgrade. I never kept a kindle for more than 2 years

Me, too. Right now I have two Paperwhites. I tried a Voyage and gave it to a college student. Tried an Oasis 2 but when I was notified the protective cover wouldn't be available for two months I sent the Oasis 2 back. But, I've always moved to a new Kindle before the old one died.

One other comment. I'm a born klutz. If I wanted to replace a battery in my Paperwhite, I would probably take it to a cell phone repair shop. I know some people who have gone to a training program for repairing cell phones and they'd do great with Kindles, too. Me? I'm a klutz.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New Kindle Firmware Update 5.9.4
« on: February 21, 2018, 05:02:27 PM »
I have two Paperwhites. Both are running just fine with the update. I bet if, instead of reading books, I looked really hard I could find something, though.

Maybe that means I need to stock up on Paperwhites before they're discontinued. Since I use my Kindle to read books, having fonts in colors is not an attraction. Black letters on a light grey background is fine. As for clear ink, I don't have a clue what that would be.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Kindle Screen Problem
« on: January 17, 2018, 03:33:32 AM »
Go to "Setting" and then "Reading Options". The top item is now "Page Refresh". Turn it off.

Now, it should do the "fade to black" once every six or seven pages.

If that didn't work, I'd recommend a hard reset. I do a hard reset once or twice a year. It's like a tune-up. Warning, you will have to reload your books and reset your parameters.

To do a hard reset on a Paperwhite 3, go go "settings". Then a second "settings". Select the option "reset".

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Liam Neeson on The Late Show
« on: January 09, 2018, 07:00:48 PM »
So fun watching Colbert trying to change the subject on him. Lol.

Watching interviews on the internet remind me of why I'm so happy I don't have a television. I've enjoyed many of Liam Neeson's films and I'm as enthusiastic about my Kindle as he is. I don't go on location but I live in Mexico much of the time and I'm a compulsive reader. For years I read what I could find. I carried one or two books with me everywhere. I carried index cards to write down words I wanted to look up when I got home to my dictionary. Along with my books I carried a bean bag to prop the book up to read while I ate lunch and dinner and a book weight to hold the pages down. Lastly, I had a head lamp to read in dim light. I also used it to read menus in restaurants with one candle on a table so you wouldn't have any chance of seeing the prices.

Now, I have my Kindle. It's wonderful. Actually, I have two Paperwhites right now. They're my favorites.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: No Amazon PW User's Guide on Kindle. Really?
« on: January 04, 2018, 06:03:33 AM »
Honestly I've never seen the need for a users guide. I got one with each Kindle I bought but never used them. The devices are really very user friendly. If you don't get one when you register your Kindle you can always redownload it. I think a copy is kept your Kindle library on the site and can be downloaded from the Kindle section. :)

Years ago I did something on a PC using a simple word processing program our department endorsed. Another employee watching said, "How did you do that?"

"I read page one of the User's Guide."
"Oh. I haven't gotten that far yet."

User friendly and intuitive only goes so far. User's Guides often have very helpful information.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: No Amazon PW User's Guide on Kindle. Really?
« on: January 02, 2018, 01:08:27 AM »
My Paperwhites came with a User's Guide which I read and removed from my Paperwhite. There are six editions of the Paperwhite User's Guide, the latest is very recent, but when I try to go to their page it's unavailable. I'm assuming right now it's because their servers are getting maintenance and only insomniacs notice.

I ignored the unavailable page and used "Manage Your Kindle" to download the User's Guide and the 6th Edition is now sitting happily on my default Paperwhite. I assume the 6th Edition, two months old, includes some of the new firmware update features.

If you really want to know you need to contact Harper Collins. I think it's safe to say that Amazon choose to not sell very little. They make money selling books and everything else. Perhaps they haven't finished the electronic edition or perhaps the legal negotiations for the electronic edition aren't complete.

And THIS is why I'd like a dedicated physical home button. Then you could set touch off and leave it off until you needed to do something else besides turn pages. :)

I had the Kindle Keyboard and one of the page buttons broke. I'm not a fan of mechanical buttons. New technology for Luddites makes no sense.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Which Kindle to buy?
« on: December 11, 2017, 03:22:13 AM »
I've had a number of Kindles and my favorite is the Paperwhite. I have two and alternate them. I had a Voyage and gave a college student a heck of a deal to get rid of it. I got the Oasis 2, played with it a few days and was notified I wouldn't get the cover two two months so I returned it. I have no regrets over returning the Oasis 2.

You get a 30-day return with Amazon and they're amazingly gracious about it. So, you can get a Paperwhite, try it, return it, get a Voyage, etc.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: My Paperwhite touch controls stopped working.
« on: November 29, 2017, 04:45:42 PM »
I do a restart twice a year or so even if I don't have problems. It just sort of keeps everything in order. I've got two Paperwhite readers now, I alternated them daily, and I've never had a system problem that a restart didn't solve.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Advice on a letdown
« on: November 21, 2017, 04:24:27 PM »
I am sorry but Kindle people are not remotely like Apple people. I sincerely believe the OP should stick with his beloved IPAD.

The product page clearly states:
"Included in the Box   Kindle Paperwhite, USB 2.0 charging cable and Quick Start Guide"

Oasis2 is the most recent Kindle, Oasis was before that. The Voyage was before that. The Paperwhite is four generations back. It's still my favorite Kindle.

I wonder where the OP bought his Paperwhite? If he bought it from Amazon he can ship it right back and not only gets a refund but they'll pay the shipping. Then he can live happily ever after with his IPAD.

edited; PM if you have questions -- Ann

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New oasis -- First Impressions
« on: November 15, 2017, 07:27:29 AM »
I wouldn't use the Bookseat but I do have a couple of beanbags that I use to prop my Kindle up while i'm eating. I have one at the table where I eat at home and one in my little daypack in the same pocket I carry my Kindle. And, in a pinch, I can play catch with the kids in the park.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Amazon's playing games with my new Kindle!
« on: November 10, 2017, 04:01:25 AM »
I ordered an Oasis and cover from Both were to be delivered between Nov. 3rd and Nov. 6th. The Oasis arrived on Nov. 2nd and I got an email the same day saying the case would come, maybe, in December. My Oasis went back to on Nov. 2nd. On the bright side, the Amazon Kindle Oasis case doesn't sound like a winner, anyway. I would have thought Amazon would have learned from the Voyage Origami case.

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