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Writers' Cafe / Re: Night of the Living Shirtless Men
« on: November 20, 2017, 11:53:49 AM »
I'm not comparing all romance books to McDonalds, don't think I actually even mentioned romance in general anywhere, just the legion of clone books that feature nearly identical shirtless (and mostly headless) men on their covers. I could enjoy a good love story but if a book is actually well-summed up by just a photo of a bare chest, it's not for me. I want more complexity, whereas those particular covers feel like an insult to intelligence. I also disagree that covers aren't supposed to be subtle. Two of my favourite covers of recent YAs I've read are American Street

 

and Starfish

 

I realize that you didn't insult "all" romance books, "only" the ones with bare chested men. So sorry that your intelligence is so sensitive as to be insulted by a book cover.  ::) You're also insulting the authors and readers of those books.

Your cover examples are way out of left field. They're great covers, I love them too, they're totally off topic though. We're talking bare chests, which you see on romance covers, mainly steamy romance. Those covers wouldn't be fitting for a steamy romance and a man chest wouldn't be fitting for either of those books, so I don't get your point.  ???

I feel that a cover can be either subtle or not subtle, either can work, but they should be a good representation of the genre. The man chest covers do convey their genre, at first glance you can see what type of book it is.... which is a good thing, because then you know not to read it.  ;)

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Writers' Cafe / Re: Night of the Living Shirtless Men
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:17:46 PM »
About the only romance category I don't see shirtless covers is in historical romance. Come on over! :D

They may not be as plentiful, they're in HR too.


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Writers' Cafe / Re: Night of the Living Shirtless Men
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:03:42 PM »
Readers of this genre aren't looking for any kind of quality or distinctiveness, just going for the same kind of basic Big Mac thing (or maybe I should say Whopper since we've already got the BK crown up here) every time? I guess that sounds about right.

Many books feature headless torsos. Books by indie authors, some of them kb members, books by trad published authors, books by big name best selling authors. To imply that those books lack quality or distinctiveness is a bit harsh and insulting to those authors and their readers.  ??? If they're not your cuppa, that's okay, they're just not for you. No need to disrespect the writers and readers of the genre.


I'd started this thread to whine and complain about seeing these shirtless creatures across multiple categories where they don't belong. From there the thread has morphed into just talking about these garmently-challenged heathens and even includes images of the horrifying (and often headless) beasts. *shudder* Just goes to show these shirtless demons are indeed taking over. I can't seem to avoid them. They are legion!  :P
Oops, sorry! Looks like you have been invaded by a legion of torsos!  :o

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Writers' Cafe / Re: Night of the Living Shirtless Men
« on: November 19, 2017, 11:47:36 AM »
Personally, I like a man with clothes...



Courtesy of Facebook's Steampunk & Victoriana

#WarrorWednesday
Aramis- The Musketeers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDWE8Jy9EE

I personally don't know any women who wouldn't like seeing that man on a cover. Of course, the book would need to fit the image. Though, I've never come across a stock photo like that on any of the stock sites. The image is from a tv series, the guy is an actor, the clothing is from a professional wardrobe department, so it's a bit of an unrealistic standard for the average book cover.

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Writers' Cafe / Re: Night of the Living Shirtless Men
« on: November 19, 2017, 10:07:22 AM »
I don't often browse Amazon for books, so I wasn't aware of the problem. I don't know what categories they're popping up in, but they definitely should be in romance. A shirtless torso can be in any type of romance though, not just erotica. I don't read erotica and I've read several headless shirtless torso books. It usually indicates a steamer romance, rather than squeaky clean.


It's much easier to find a good chest than a good face. I'm sure every model is beautiful on the inside and all that, but if the face is going to scare away customers, you break out the guillotine.
So true! I've designed several headless torso covers, usually at the request of the author. The search for stock is so much easier when you only have to concentrate on the body.... adding a head to the mix narrows the options a great deal.

This stock is a good example of why it's often necessary to go headless & I've used this model's torso on a cover before. Cropped without the head it's good stock for a romance cover. With the head, it wouldn't work for romance.
 

As for the bodies not being realistic, that's how they're described in the books. If the hero is described as tall, athletic, muscular, with a six pack, the author is not going to want an average guy, a little soft around the middle on the cover.

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The Book Corner / Re: "Most Read" kindle books, per Amazon
« on: November 17, 2017, 07:48:31 AM »
I can see those books as being top ten read fiction. I've read 9 of them. I never got around to reading the 3rd Fifty Shades installment and probably never will.

I've only read Unbroken from the non-fiction list. I'd like to read The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, but haven't gotten around to it... it's been on my tbr list for the past 7 years.

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Amazon cover now $39.99
« on: November 14, 2017, 06:34:58 PM »
It's great that they reduced the price, but a bummer for those who paid full price for them.  Like me!  ???

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Not Quite Kindle / Re: Outlander - Starz - Season 3 September 10th
« on: November 14, 2017, 06:32:55 PM »
Cagnes, I see in your sig you're reading Seven Stones to Stand or Fall. I just got that from the library. What a doorstopper!!

I had already read Roger's father's story and two of the Lord John's. I was really only interested in Virgins, Ian and Jamie in France. The ebook was only $3.99 so I picked it up. Reading it now.
Virgins was also the story I was most interested in reading. I started Seven Stones awhile back & I really should get back to it. I read one story from it, then read a few novels and so on, so it taking a long time to finish it.

Here's a bunch of articles from EW including a video of the photoshoot.

http://ew.com/outlander/
Good stuff!

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 14, 2017, 01:04:51 PM »
Beautiful skin Anastayja!  :)

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Not Quite Kindle / Re: What are you binge-watching?
« on: November 13, 2017, 03:36:38 PM »
Will finish Stranger Things tomorrow night, but I wanted to plug American Vandal on Netflix. Quite a brilliant piece of work and consistently funny.
Just finished American Vandal & thought it was pretty funny and well done.

I just started Alias Grace based on Margaret Atwood's novel on Netflix and I'm really getting into it.

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Not Quite Kindle / Re: Outlander - Starz - Season 3 September 10th
« on: November 13, 2017, 03:27:42 PM »
Just came across this cover. Wow, look at Jamie in that outfit!  :-*


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Not Quite Kindle / Re: Outlander - Starz - Season 3 September 10th
« on: November 13, 2017, 03:22:01 PM »
Having a bit of trouble with the pronunciation of Marsali's name:
Davina Porter pronounced it 'Mar SAH lee', but
here in the TV series, it sounds very different. Maybe 'MAR sah lee'

Same for me! it will take a little while to get used to hearing it pronounced that way.

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Not Quite Kindle / Re: Outlander - Starz - Season 3 September 10th
« on: November 13, 2017, 03:19:17 PM »
Ships ships, ships everywhere. I love ships.  ;D I know want a house and then I want one room in that imaginary house to be turned into a ship chamber, preferably the captains. I told my husband as we were watching. I just got a side eye.  :P

I heard that they recycled some of the ships from Black Sails. If you like ships and sea fights, it's a good Starz series to watch. Much gritter than Outlander and not a romance, but I did love it.

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:34:08 AM »

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 13, 2017, 05:45:48 AM »
How can I get it?  I do like it.
You can download it from google drive..... Oasis front.

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Oasis 2017 -- options to the Amazon cases
« on: November 11, 2017, 10:14:24 AM »
Just noticed that Fintie has one available.



Price: $12.99 + $4.99 shipping

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 11, 2017, 08:47:59 AM »
Cagnes, or anyone with a skinned Oasis 2, does the skin help with the grip on the Kindle at all? I don't like covers, and the only thing making me hesitate over the Oasis is that people have reported it's slippy in the hand. I'm hoping a matte/satin skin would improve that - does it?
I put my cover on right away & didn't really test holding it without the cover. I currently have my cover secured to the kindle with double stick tape, so I can't try it out without the cover. Maybe someone else with a skin can chime in.
I think the matte skin helps somewhat, but it's still smooth and not textured. If you'd want a good grip, I'd go Ann's route with the grippy stickers.


I have a stupid question for those of you who use a screen cover will those work with decal girl skins?  I've never used a screen cover.
I've never used a screen cover on a kindle. I would be leery about using both because I think it would be hard to apply both and align them properly. The screen protector may not fit perfectly inside the skin and you may have one overlapping the other. If you're okay with that, then it's not a problem, but it would probably drive me crazy.  ???


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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 10, 2017, 07:52:17 PM »
Which skin is that for the front?

It's a custom design I made. You're welcome to it if you'd like.

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 10, 2017, 03:32:28 PM »
Got my skin in today! The skin does deminish the magnet strength of the Amazon cover. Without the skin I was able to dangle my Oasis by the cover flap, give it a shake and the Oasis would not disconnect. With the skin, it did fall off when I gave it a shake. Since I never read without a cover, I added a few strips of strong double stick tape to the back of the cover & it seems to work out well, it's now very secure.

For the front I wanted something very dark, almost black. For the back I wanted something that would blend in with the metal back, which is a good thing since I put it on crooked!  ???

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Kindle Accessories / Re: New Oasis back is cold! Does a skin help?
« on: November 10, 2017, 03:15:51 PM »
I've just skinned mine and it does help, though I can still feel some coolness even with the skin.

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Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Buying new Oasis - what do you expect?
« on: November 08, 2017, 09:03:54 AM »
I liked my 1st gen Oasis just fine too. I never had a problem with it & it didn't matter to me that you can only charge it with the cover, since I never used it without the cover. The only thing that aggravated me about it was when the "cover battery is low" message would keep popping up.

I got the new one for the larger screen & added lights. Actually, I mainly got it because I get caught up in the excitement of getting a new toy! ;) Honestly, I could have gone on just fine with the gen one Oasis, there was nothing really all that pressing to make the switch. 

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Kindle Accessories / Re: New Oasis Cover
« on: November 08, 2017, 08:43:57 AM »
I had originally planned on waiting to order a 3rd party cover, but I don't like reading without a cover at all. When reading with a cover I place the cover flap between my 1st two fingers, so I don't actually have to grip the Kindle. I find having to grip the Kindle awkward and tiring.

Anyway, I ordered the waterproof cover before the bad reviews started rolling in & figured that I'd definitely be sending it right back to Amazon. I've been using the cover for a couple days now and it's not at bad as I thought it would be. I can hold it dangling by the cover and shake it and the Oasis stays in place. I have to give it a really violent shake before the Oasis falls off. I can also pick up the Oasis by gripping only the exposed metal & the cover doesn't come off.

The only time I'll have the cover come off is in the position I read in (with the cover flap between my 1st two fingers). If I put a twisting or torque pressure with the palm of my hand, the cover will pop off. I don't put pressure when reading though, the cover is held between my fingers and my thumb is relaxed over the kindle for page turning. So, I've decided to keep it.

I'll be adding a decalgirl skin to my Oasis which may lessen the effect of the magnets, so I think I may adhere the Oasis to the cover once I apply the skin. I have some strong double stick craft that that should work. Since I never take off the cover or read without the cover, I don't care if it doesn't come off easily. In all the time I've had my gen 1 Oasis, I've only taken the cover off to demonstrate to people how it attaches on and off.
 

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 07, 2017, 06:18:30 PM »
I am eyeballing the quest for my back, not sure if I want anything on the front. I don't want to be distracted by a design. They have a severe lack of nautical things on the site. Quest is like the only decent map they have. Think there are only 2. And almost no ships and such things. I don't like cartoonish looking things or cutesy, more the realistic type. So quest is about it. With the saddle tan cover, I think it might look nice.

If you want more options, you can go with a custom skin. For the design, you can purchase digital scrapbook papers for a few dollars. They're large, high resolution jpg files & no editing is needed, so all you need to do it upload the image to decalgirl.

I spotted a few nautical designs on Etsy that aren't too cutesy...
https://www.etsy.com/listing/219923150/nautical-scrapbook-paper-nautical?ref=shop_home_active_16
https://www.etsy.com/listing/232191407/printable-vintage-map-digital-paper?ref=shop_home_feat_2
https://www.etsy.com/listing/286184021/golden-sea-monster-digital-paper-gold?ref=shop_home_active_91
https://www.etsy.com/listing/507768305/sea-shanty-vintage-nautical-digital?ga_search_query=ocean&ref=shop_items_search_12
https://www.etsy.com/listing/246103877/vintage-mermaid-digital-paper-nautical?ref=search_recently_viewed-3
https://www.etsy.com/listing/528167432/vintage-sea2-sea-ocean-mermaid-digital
https://www.etsy.com/listing/236876320/nautical-maps-digital-papers-12x12-old

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Kindle Accessories / Re: Skins for the new Oasis
« on: November 07, 2017, 04:14:36 PM »
Yay, that was quicker than I expected!  :) I just received a response from them this morning stating that they'd be be available within a week.

I'll order one asap! I had skinned my old Oasis as soon as I got it & discovered I don't like the new Oasis skinless. I miss the feel of the texture and I can't stand the fingerprints on the black bezel or the feel of the cold back.  I'll probably go with a custom skin unless I spot something a really like. I want something dark and plain for the front and I'll probably go with something busier for the back.

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The Book Corner / Re: I guess I'm old-fashioned
« on: November 04, 2017, 04:57:08 PM »
I love audiobooks and I always have one in progress. I mainly borrow them for Overdrive and occasionally purchase from audible when the audiobook I want isn't available from the library.

I'm a little old fashion too. I don't want to listen on my iphone, only my ipod. I have an ipod nano for the sole purpose of listening to audiobooks, I don't load any music on it.  It's tiny & easy to carry around and I like the fact that's it's just for listening to books, as my Kindle is just for reading books.

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