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Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
« Reply #100 on: June 30, 2013, 07:30:40 pm »
I like this idea too. I have been pretty shy about mentioning my sales numbers because I felt like it was prideful or something, but this seems like a more data driven thing for the purpose of information sharing, and it spares having to write some sort of preamble for why I am sharing etc., which is a problem for me (blah blah, get over yourself, etc.... can't really help it.. childhood, etc.).  So I like this.

I will say that my online experience over the last nearly two decades suggests that like email spam, like SEO, like video game hacks, like Amazon reviews, and exploiters from China and wherever ... any time a system comes about to do something cool, interesting and useful, people bent on making money come game it. They always do, and typically ruin it. It becomes a coding fight between the developers and the exploiters. I just hope you guys can somehow stay ahead of them (and yes, I saw the post about how we can police ourselves, but in the end those arguments always come down to data, and if you can't prove it, well, then it's merely a matter of ideals and morality... squirrel just trying to get a nut vs. the Utopian purists, etc. yet again).

And I repeat, I love this idea. I just worry what it will become when the waves of self-promoting "squirrels" spot the value and begin to metastasize.
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #101 on: June 30, 2013, 08:02:32 pm »
    Awesome idea! It's inspiring to see so many indies making a living and great sales at each level. Thanks for putting this together Harvey! :-*

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #102 on: June 30, 2013, 08:07:49 pm »
    Harvey,

    is it possible to put commas in the numbers in the "View by sales level" drop down menu?

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #103 on: June 30, 2013, 08:33:08 pm »
    Harvey,

    is it possible to put commas in the numbers in the "View by sales level" drop down menu?

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #104 on: June 30, 2013, 08:35:32 pm »
    I added some programming so that, at the beginning of each day, we calculate totals from all information received. That info is displayed at the top of the page.

    So far:  5,001,735 e-books sold over 348 titles by 33 authors
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #105 on: June 30, 2013, 08:50:06 pm »
    14 more and I can be in the 1,000 club.  I'm so excited!  I'll probably leave skid marks trying to get to your sign up page when it happens, Harvey.  LOL

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #106 on: June 30, 2013, 08:54:44 pm »
    Congratulations, Jeanne!
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #107 on: June 30, 2013, 09:01:11 pm »
    I got it. I was trying to put a comma in the "approximate number of sales" field.

    I've updated the form to allow commas in the numeric fields, and dashes or slashes in the date field. You can enter those and they'll be automatically stripped out.
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #108 on: June 30, 2013, 09:09:25 pm »
    Just so I'm clear, I can't count paperback sales - right?

    I hate being last on any list...LOL

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #109 on: June 30, 2013, 09:32:35 pm »
    I felt a bit odd including my Montlake sales in the total, so I made sure I noted that in the Notes. I wanted to include them because they get my over the 100k milestone.  ;D
     
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #110 on: June 30, 2013, 09:41:47 pm »
    Just so I'm clear, I can't count paperback sales - right?

    I hate being last on any list...LOL

    The consensus was to only count e-book sales, so it's that way right now. I think this can still be a topic we discuss, though... I'm not particularly hard-over on it.
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #111 on: June 30, 2013, 09:53:35 pm »
    Just so I'm clear, I can't count paperback sales - right?

    I hate being last on any list...LOL
    To me this seems like a really minor detail, at least based on personal experience. First, the value of this report seems more like an indie thing and a KB thing than format thing (yes, I know, KB = "KINDLE" boards), and second, again based on personal experience, print sales are so microscopic that debating whether they should be excluded is like debating whether or not we count barnacle weight when we weigh the whale.
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #112 on: June 30, 2013, 10:16:54 pm »
    To me this seems like a really minor detail, at least based on personal experience. First, the value of this report seems more like an indie thing and a KB thing than format thing (yes, I know, KB = "KINDLE" boards), and second, again based on personal experience, print sales are so microscopic that debating whether they should be excluded is like debating whether or not we count barnacle weight when we weigh the whale.

    My paperback sales are 40% of my total - 80,000 over the last two years. Shrug.
    I know this site is "Kindle," but it is also the "Writer's Caf."
    It really doesn't matter that much one way or the other.

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #113 on: July 01, 2013, 01:53:09 am »
    I can't see the logic for excluding paperback sales. A sale is a sale, it doesn't matter what the reader's prefs are. Plus excluding them might be unfair to authors in certain genres which haven't really switched to digital as much yet (non-fiction, literary, children's etc.)

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #114 on: July 01, 2013, 04:58:50 am »
    This is very cool. I love seeing the number of sales across the number of titles.

    I hope it's okay that I entered my mom's stats since I am her representative on KB.

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #115 on: July 01, 2013, 07:16:00 am »
    How cool! I'm glad the lower achievements were added. I'm half-way to my first milestone!  ;D

    Another thought, and this is similar to the pricing note, so I have no idea how this could be implemented -- sales milestones are going to mean very different things across genres. To sell 10,000 copies of a romance or thriller novel is different than selling 10,000 copies of a self-published literary fiction novel, or a short story collection, or poetry (God help the poor poets, lol!). Even among the most lauded traditionally published lit fic authors, 10,000 sales is a pretty big deal.

    Would it be very hard to make the genres into clickable tags, so you could filter the list by genre and see who the bestselling authors in each genre are?

    Just an idea. If that's impossible, then please ignore me.  :P
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #116 on: July 01, 2013, 07:22:41 am »
    Awesome list.  Just updated my stuff for it.


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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #117 on: July 01, 2013, 07:26:23 am »
    No idea how feasible this is Harvey, but is there any way to add to the form an option that lets authors type in a non-standardized milestone as well, such as 'print only deal' or 'film rights optioned'?  Just asking because those are always very cool to see as well, but no idea how well something like that would work.

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #118 on: July 01, 2013, 08:14:33 am »
    My paperback sales are 40% of my total - 80,000 over the last two years. Shrug.
    I know this site is "Kindle," but it is also the "Writer's Caf."
    It really doesn't matter that much one way or the other.

    I can't see the logic for excluding paperback sales. A sale is a sale, it doesn't matter what the reader's prefs are. Plus excluding them might be unfair to authors in certain genres which haven't really switched to digital as much yet (non-fiction, literary, children's etc.)

    I think part of the reasoning is that we're in the middle of a publishing revolution, and in keeping with our Kindle niche, it's appropriate (and interesting and impressive) for this site to showcase the number of e-books that are being sold by our authors.

    But I do think we're not far away from the notion of high e-book sales becoming conventional wisdom, and it may make sense at some point to switch this list to include all editions (paper, e-book, audio).
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #119 on: July 01, 2013, 08:16:42 am »
    No idea how feasible this is Harvey, but is there any way to add to the form an option that lets authors type in a non-standardized milestone as well, such as 'print only deal' or 'film rights optioned'?  Just asking because those are always very cool to see as well, but no idea how well something like that would work.

    Interesting idea. I'd like to see that info, too - although I think it would apply to so few authors that it's better listed in the Notes section than in additional fields. For now, anyway! Thanks for the thought.
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #120 on: July 01, 2013, 08:19:00 am »
    How cool! I'm glad the lower achievements were added. I'm half-way to my first milestone!  ;D

    Another thought, and this is similar to the pricing note, so I have no idea how this could be implemented -- sales milestones are going to mean very different things across genres. To sell 10,000 copies of a romance or thriller novel is different than selling 10,000 copies of a self-published literary fiction novel, or a short story collection, or poetry (God help the poor poets, lol!). Even among the most lauded traditionally published lit fic authors, 10,000 sales is a pretty big deal.

    Would it be very hard to make the genres into clickable tags, so you could filter the list by genre and see who the bestselling authors in each genre are?

    Just an idea. If that's impossible, then please ignore me.  :P

    That is a good idea. It would take some work to put that into place, and I'd have to figure out how to deal with authors whose works span genres. But I've noted this for a possible enhancement in release 2.0. :)
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #121 on: July 01, 2013, 08:39:15 am »
    This is very impressive - great job!

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #122 on: July 01, 2013, 09:02:23 am »
    I'm too ashamed to post my pathetic sales, but great job to everyone in KB land making sales. And a word of thanks to Harvey for creating this list.

    Looking at the layout, it seems the field labeled "KB Info" is too crowded. Given that the "Author" column is somewhat spacious, it may be more aesthetically pleasing to move each authors KB info directly under his/her name.

    Also, you may want to limit the amount of KB info that's presented. Beyond the date they joined this forum, all other KB data seems irrelevant (in my opinion).

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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #123 on: July 01, 2013, 10:36:16 am »
    Thank you, Kevin! And Mr. RAD!

    I intend to shorten the time stamp format for the KB info.

    The info in that column is of high interest to me. I've heard (in other forums) that KB is a place that authors come to and then leave after achieving success. I don't think that's true but am interested in how that 'last login' might give evidence about that over time.
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    Re: The Official List of KB Author Sales Milestones
    « Reply #124 on: July 01, 2013, 12:17:43 pm »
    Harvey, would it be possible to add a link to the list at the top of the page, right under the masthead?












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