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Offline Shawn Hilton

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Ok a question for erotica writers
« on: July 26, 2013, 12:31:24 pm »
At what point does a book become Erotica. I ask this because my book that gets released on Aug 1 has a sex scene in a half in it, and to be honest I thought it was a pretty minor sex scene and a half. The Half meaning it has an oral sex scene, that all it shows is him going down on her and then it hints that there was more to it, and then one full sex scene. Well one of my relavtives read the book before release and she says to me, I didn't know you write erotica. Which caught me a bit off guard, so here is my question where is the line?--- :P

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    Offline Just Browsing

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 12:36:39 pm »
    The line between what--erotica and porn? erotica and romance? erotica and lit fic? I'm not sure you'll be able to arrive at one neat definition, but in general, erotica is written with the intent to titillate, and the sex is an essential part of the plot. Plenty of non-erotica books have sex scenes, of course. There's sex in Tess of the D'Urbervilles and in Clockwork Orange, but they're not classified as erotica.

    Your 1.5 sex scenes is out of how many scenes? Are they a major focus of the book? Do events lead specifically to those scenes, and are those scenes arousing for the reader and transformative for the characters? (Or do you just have a relative who was caught unawares by explicit language?)

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 12:42:21 pm »
    No the really aren't a major part of the book.  Its a paranormal romance. So I though a sex scene and a half was pretty fitting I mean even in reality sex happens..lol.. I know what the differences are, or at least I thought I did. But when your aunt (a women in her 70's by the way.) said that to me, I had this very childish split second of oh my god my Aunt reads Erotica, wait my Aunt knows what Erotica is? It less a serious question and more a fun one. Because personally I like Erotica. All literature really and I see why and where it has it's place. I am just trying to wrap my head around my aunt calling my book Erotica, for a scene and a half out of like 40..lol

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 12:49:58 pm »
    Well, 70-year-old aunts might fall into the category of people who don't scour the genre categories on Amazon, drawing little lines. It sounds like what she means is, an explicit scene. "Erotica" is just the word that she has for that. The word has gotten a lot more attention recently after all the press for 50 Shades of Grey, a book that everyone has heard of (well, everyone except my own parents). What you want to think as a writer is, does this fit my book? If one person is surprised, that's not such a big deal. If 35 people are all stunned to find that one scene, then you might want to rethink whether the scene belongs there, OR how you describe the book in the blurb, stuff like that.

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 12:54:39 pm »
    What's erotica is in the eye of the beholder, but in my opinion, the more you get into the specifics of describing what's going on, including the body parts involved, the more you're shading towards the erotica spectrum. 

    As far as what percentage of the book, in my opinion, it doesn't matter.  If you have a full length spy thriller with an explicit sex scene in the middle, the entire book may not be classified as erotica, but that scene is.

    What you might take away from your relative's comment is that perhaps the explicitness of the sex scene doesn't match the rest of the book.  But you're in a better position to judge that.

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 12:58:58 pm »
    Well we have 6 test readers, and they all loved it and thought it was fitting, one did give me a  "Hey why was there not more smut?" Comment which made me laugh. So I think its fine, but my Aunt and Grandmother basically raised me growing up. So it was important for me to have her read.

    I was hoping that the question and the story that went with actually gave some a chuckle. I figured it was something like what you said, but it still caught me off guard. Then in the same breath she congratulated me on finishing the book, and was all old woman excited for me. But the whole time after she said that, partly because of what I call erotica. I was still standing there stunned. MY books erotica when did that happen? for a second I was actually gonna go back and make sure that some of the other sex scenes we had written had not snuck their way in on their own.

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 01:01:47 pm »
    Swolf, thanks for the comment and for the most part I agree with you. We did go back and check several times, and both scenes were written specifically to add the story as whole. I think it is more that she was older, and for as much as I love her she is a tiny bit the prude. Yes I have said that to her..lol

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 01:33:12 pm »
    Sex scenes (even oral sex scenes) don't make a book erotica. I have quite a few "regular" romances under my other name, and almost all of them include oral sex scenes. They're simply not as detailed as my erotic romances, nor is the sex as big a part of the storyline. I can't tell for sure without reading it, but what you've described doesn't really sound like erotica to me.

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 02:04:43 pm »
    I think a book turns erotica when you write your sex scenes thinking you want your readers to take a break after that scene to...well, take care of things.  ;)

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    Re: Ok a question for erotica writers
    « Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 06:44:37 pm »
    I've seen a lot of indie work from different genres (obviously, free of traditional filters) that have hardcore sex scenes but are still thrillers and horror stories. Conversely, not all erotica completely replaces conflict and action scenes with sex. Example: there's an extremely wide berth of "fantasy" erotica of all kinds now. I would say that the main point of your story, thrill or titilate as mentioned earlier, decides the difference.

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