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Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
« on: November 10, 2013, 04:17:45 pm »
Hi writer bros I'm referencing Breaking Bad. The main character invents a blue meth formula that surpasses every meth before it.

Others try to copy the formula, even though it's nowhere near as good as the main character's they still surpass most other meth formulas even from trained chemists.

The Beatles created a "blue meth" formula for pop music and many successful pop artists copy it even today.

Is there a formula for story-telling that as long as average writers follow it, their chances at making sales improves?

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 04:32:16 pm »
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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 04:33:45 pm »
    If I remember correctly, he doesn't "invent" blue meth, he just takes the creation of meth very seriously. He focuses on getting the most pure product possible with no short cuts. He's methodical, clean, focused and pedantic about doing things the right way. He also spent years learning about and practicing chemistry and was naturally passionate about it.

    Sounds like all of that can pretty much transfer over to writing.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 04:35:45 pm »
    I think everyone has to think of their own formula. It works differently for everyone. Though, I've seen some people come up with great ideas and share them on the board. But it seems to work best for the person that first thinks of trying it.
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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 04:38:05 pm »
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    Pop culture does not work that way!

    There's no cheat code that makes you sure-fire. Even the wave of Beatles pretenders had plenty of failures among them.

    You either follow the leader and hope to surpass them, or take your own shot and pray for a miracle.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 04:38:15 pm »
    Yes, keep writing, nuff said

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #6 on: November 10, 2013, 04:41:45 pm »
    Yes, keep writing, nuff said

    And reading.

    And try to avoid the belief that anything other than hard work, passion, and persistence will get you anywhere in this business.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #7 on: November 10, 2013, 04:47:34 pm »
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    Pop culture does not work that way!

    There's no cheat code that makes you sure-fire. Even the wave of Beatles pretenders had plenty of failures among them.

    You either follow the leader and hope to surpass them, or take your own shot and pray for a miracle.



    indeed and not everyone thinks the Beatles were all that ;)

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #8 on: November 10, 2013, 04:51:42 pm »


    indeed and not everyone thinks the Beatles were all that ;)

    And I don't like "Catcher in the Rye". But some people say that is a classic. This is why we need lots of ways to make it to the top. Lots of ways to win.  ;)
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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #9 on: November 10, 2013, 05:04:49 pm »
    I think the closest thing to a "formula" would be Save the Cat. Look it up.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #10 on: November 10, 2013, 05:21:00 pm »
    I think the closest thing to a "formula" would be Save the Cat. Look it up.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #11 on: November 10, 2013, 05:36:16 pm »
    Plus Walt had 20+ years of research and Nobel-level experience to draw from.

    I guess I'd say that the blue meth of writing is just to keep honing your craft, figure out what you want to write and sell, and look at trends, past and present.
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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 06:42:09 pm »
    Some people go chapter-by-chapter with beta readers, getting feedback from the customers every step of the way.

    This *might* be a great formula.

    Of course, people like to read books straight through, sometimes in one sitting, and so the very act of having the readers examine the work and question it piece by piece ... it alters the experience and thus the feedback and formula.

    Knowing your [crap] and studying the basics of craft before trying to freestyle it might be a solid formula. Walter White knew his science. He was also sufficiently motivated, by money and by ego. Perhaps money plus ego is blue meth?

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 06:43:52 pm »
    3 or 4 act structure. This helped me write my first book and make it a tiny bit less horrid that it could have been.

    I find screenwriting resources are pretty helpful and Save the Cat is on the TBR list.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
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    « Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 08:42:45 pm »
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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #18 on: November 11, 2013, 04:11:53 am »
    47 clearly.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #19 on: November 11, 2013, 04:34:55 am »
    I loved reading Maugham's stories in high school CP English, and this quote always makes me laugh.

    The thing that strikes me about your comparison is that meth, or any physical item, is more concrete than something like writing or other art. You can build a better mousetrap, and have a good chance that people will agree with your claims. On the other hand, you can write a book, and half the people who read it might hate it.

    It's subjective, and has so many factors influencing the experience (cover, blurb, ads, writing style, world events, personal feelings, and so on) that it would be hard to say:  do this, and you will be guaranteed success.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #20 on: November 11, 2013, 03:38:37 pm »


    indeed and not everyone thinks the Beatles were all that ;)

    What?!? Who? I mean it's not my type of music at all, but I can not conceive of denying that Lennon and McCartney were genius'! And that the Beatles effectively changed the face of music, along with Elvis of course, who I hold in the same esteem, and he was dead before I was born. Absolutely no desire to get into a war, but I just couldnt let it slide by, surely no one on the planet can say they werent all that and mean it? Great things come and go but surely time is the only true test of anything, and they have aced that test.

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    Re: Is there a "blue meth" formula when it comes to writing?
    « Reply #21 on: November 11, 2013, 03:46:37 pm »
    What?!? Who? I mean it's not my type of music at all, but I can not conceive of denying that Lennon and McCartney were genius'! And that the Beatles effectively changed the face of music, along with Elvis of course, who I hold in the same esteem, and he was dead before I was born. Absolutely no desire to get into a war, but I just couldnt let it slide by, surely no one on the planet can say they werent all that and mean it? Great things come and go but surely time is the only true test of anything, and they have aced that test.
    Oh just give me Crosby, Stills, Nash, Dylan and the two Neils.  (Diamond and Young).
    And McCartney is still a genius.
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