Excellent point, Car. I think it's the most important takeaway from this thread so far. I think it's important for us to embrace those who don't like it or have significant problems with it. I mean, it's a thread that says "first impressions" not "let's refute any negative thing said about the new kindle". And for drew, maybe an "I feel like it's a shoddy..." and that would be that. I know from past experience I thought the Paperwhite 1 was absolutely awful and reserve that "shoddy" comment to it from my perspective. There was a thread called Defective Paperwhites and instead of it being an open space to discuss concerns, people got on that thread and felt the need to refute anything bad about the Paperwhite. I think everyone is in agreement with Car's statement. I think everyone on this site, almost ubiquitously, loves what Amazon is doing in the E-reading department and genuinely is invested in the products so why not embrace the negative with the great too? I can't wait to get my hands on a Voyage to jump into this conversation properly and appreciate all the great comments assisting those of us who don't have our hands on it yet.
Origami cover. If you all had a chance to have the previous version amazon case on your Voyage, would you still go with this Origami thing?
OK, timeout....
Because of this comment in the above quote:
it's a thread that says "first impressions" not "let's refute any negative thing said about the new kindle, I've just reread all 280 posts in this thread. I have seen post after post where people have said things that they did not like about the new Kindle, including the following:
"Mine had a 2-tone screen with it being darker yellow" (Jaspertyler)
"In my normal reading light it is blueish at the bottom and beigish at the top." (Night Reader)
"I noticed the uneven color on the screen of my Voyage" (KimberlyinMN)
"I do have a slight more yellow at the top of the screen." (Crisandra)
"Very slight orange coloration at the top." (ezzkmo)
"If I look at it long enough, I can see the same screen discolorations WilliamG is talking about." (lindnet)
"Top half yellow, bottom half blue." (Drew020)
As well as issues with software such as spontaneous reboots, problems with the "buttons," problems with the software design.
I have not seen "let's refute any negative thing said about the new Kindle." I see comments like this:
"If you're not happy with yours returning is definitely the right choice for you." (The Hooded Claw)
"It doesn't matter what we think. Does it work for you?" (Ann in Arlington)
"I have no doubt some people are truly having problems with front lit screens in general." (CAR)
"Someone's first impressions are their own. They don't have to be the same as someone else's." (Betsy the Quilter)
"If you get a V and the screen bothers you then you have a legitimate issue." (Kevinpars)
"CAR, sorry for your defective V." (Toby)
What people have a problem with, and what always compells people to respond, is comments such as this:
"They're all that way (white at the bottom and orange/pink/green/whatever at the top." (WilliamG)
and
"Others here simply don't see the issue even when presented with it. I don't blame them. Some people are simply not as picky." (WilliamG)
"I don't want to make it personal for those who can overlook those significant flaws." (drew020)
"a substandard product" and
"a shoddy product." (drew020)
I've seen negativism posed towards people who don't have issues in their first impressions ("can overlook thse signficant flaws," "not as visually picky" and "others simply don't see this issue." I have not seen negativism or defensiveness towards people who posed issues that they had with their own device, only responses about their own personal experience when sweeping generalizations are made.
Making universal statements about a device is problematic in a thread where people have said as part of their own first impressions, while acknowledging that others have had problems:
"My Voyage is perfect. No variation in color at all." (bordercollielady)
"To me the screen is an almost startling pure white and crystal clear." (ellenoc)
"Mine definitely has no pink or green, with very even lighting." (DianeGS)
"I don't have any of the screen discoloration problems, thank goodness." (VickiG)
Bottom line: let's keep this thread confined to "first impressions" which are by definition an individual response. To generalize, based on the statements in this thread, that all Voyages are flawed is just as incorrect as if someone in this thread would say that they are all flawless.
Which no one in this thread has said. Quite the opposite. In other words, let's drop the hyperbole.
(Took me a long time to type this--there may be responses to the thread I haven't addressed. Will read interim responses and edit post accordingly.)
Betsy
