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Re: Vellum: the official thread
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2015, 03:17:34 pm »
I'm finally about to buy Vellum and super stoked!

For their KENPC changes, is that already implemented in their software or would I need to buy Vellum and update it somehow?

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #126 on: September 09, 2015, 03:46:33 pm »
    That updated and fixed this already.

    I'm finally about to buy Vellum and super stoked!

    For their KENPC changes, is that already implemented in their software or would I need to buy Vellum and update it somehow?


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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #127 on: September 09, 2015, 03:50:25 pm »
    That updated and fixed this already.

    Thank you, just wanted to confirm.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #128 on: September 21, 2015, 01:01:23 pm »
    Forgive me if this has been raised before: I used Vellum to format my book with beautiful chapter headings and drop caps. I uploaded to Amazon and they took the beauty right back out again - no fancy headings or drop caps. Is that just Amazon, or did I miss doing something I should have done?

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #129 on: September 21, 2015, 01:08:05 pm »
    How are you looking at it? Look inside and the Kindle Cloud Reader won't show any of the advanced features. Neither will some early devices that never got updated to KF8 features.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #130 on: September 21, 2015, 01:58:29 pm »
    Ahh, good question - I just checked the Look Inside sample...would it not appear there?

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #131 on: September 21, 2015, 02:00:27 pm »
    The Look Inside feature butchers things with regularity.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #132 on: September 21, 2015, 02:02:04 pm »
    Ahh, good question - I just checked the Look Inside sample...would it not appear there?

    The reason you don’t see the drop caps and other design elements there is that Amazon’s "Look Inside" feature (as well as other places, like the Kindle Cloud Reader, as Speaker-To-Animals mentioned) uses its older "mobi7" format, which can only display very basic formatting. You can learn more about the difference here:
    http://help.180g.co/vellum/kindleformats/

    Readers who purchase your book, even if they just download a sample, will see the full formatting, however.

    Hope that helps!
    « Last Edit: December 01, 2016, 05:47:32 pm by Brad Andalman »
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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #133 on: September 21, 2015, 02:41:00 pm »
    Thanks, Brad, Monique, and STA - that is reassuring. Vellum makes a chore a pleasure...I bought it


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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #134 on: September 21, 2015, 03:54:27 pm »
    Wonderful! Thank you. I am excited about this! :)

    Wow, count me excited too. I've been looking at Vellum, it looks wonderful. I know that David Hewson uses it, so I've been dithering about whether or not  I should. When the box set goes live, I'm in. :-)

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #135 on: September 22, 2015, 04:25:50 am »
    Went ahead and bought Vellum, couldn't stop thinking about it :)

    This question has probably already been answered (no time to look through the thread), but is there anyway to save a template? Or a way to make it remember my settings by default? 

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #136 on: September 22, 2015, 11:18:58 am »
    Went ahead and bought Vellum, couldn't stop thinking about it :)

    This question has probably already been answered (no time to look through the thread), but is there anyway to save a template? Or a way to make it remember my settings by default?

    Thanks for your purchase!

    We have had heard the suggestion to be able to define a template for new books. We think that's a great idea, but it's not something in Vellum right now.

    One tip, though, is that you can drag and drop chapters (and other elements) to copy them from one book to another. This can be particularly handy if you've set up an Also By page with links to your other books:



    Hope that helps.
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    « Reply #137 on: September 22, 2015, 11:25:24 am »
    Any update on the box set formatting? Had one of mine rejected by ibooks because I had so many chapters labelled as untitled in the tOC cos I can't alter the chapter sequence in subsequent books after book one  :(

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #138 on: September 22, 2015, 11:41:43 am »
    Any update on the box set formatting? Had one of mine rejected by ibooks because I had so many chapters labelled as untitled in the tOC cos I can't alter the chapter sequence in subsequent books after book one  :(

    This is just off the top of my head

    Try renaming the chapters to reflect the book they are in:

    Book 1Chapter 1
    Book 2Chapter 2
    etc....

    You can replace "Book #" with whatever title the given book has.

    Okay, it isn't very elegant (e.g. It's labor intensive), but it will allow you to delineate the different books.

    I can think of another way to do this, but I haven't actually tried itI'm talking off the top of my head here:

    Reorganize the books in your word processor. Set the books' title pages as "TITLE" in your word processing document and set the chapters as "Headings". This will have the result of treating the book titles as chapters in the ebook and the chapters of each book will become a sub-section to that. You will have to make sure there is a page break between each chapter. But without trying this myself, I'm not sure how Vellum will treat this. In theory, it should allow the Table of Contents to be generated.

    I might just mess around with this to see what happens, now that my curiosity has been piqued.
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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #139 on: September 22, 2015, 12:04:07 pm »
    Have tried variations on this but still looks weird to have third book in set beginning at Chapter 181 or some such....

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #140 on: September 22, 2015, 12:12:49 pm »
    Hi KaiW,

    There are certainly ways to accomplish what you'd like in the current version of Vellum. However, as WDR points out, they involve some manual labor that is not ideal.

    Our next release makes creating box sets much easier and should be available within a week. Does that work with your timeframe? If not, please get in touch with us directly.
    « Last Edit: December 01, 2016, 05:48:28 pm by Brad Andalman »
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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #141 on: September 22, 2015, 12:30:08 pm »
    Thanks for your purchase!

    We have had heard the suggestion to be able to define a template for new books. We think that's a great idea, but it's not something in Vellum right now.

    One tip, though, is that you can drag and drop chapters (and other elements) to copy them from one book to another. This can be particularly handy if you've set up an Also By page with links to your other books:



    Hope that helps.
    Thanks, it does. I'll just have a few default pages saved on my desktop, no biggie  :)

    Programs like this remind me why I use Macs. So simple and easy to use.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #142 on: September 22, 2015, 12:32:17 pm »
    While we have you here to harass you. :)

    Any comments on the new layout engine and the KFX standard? I notice the two books I have that are done in Vellum haven't been updated and all of my other books have. I'm not necessarily complaining btw. I like Bookerly, but really dislike the overhyphenation. There are also reports that they're reformatting and defeating choices people have made in their books, which I'm not thrilled with.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #143 on: September 22, 2015, 01:48:50 pm »
    Hi KaiW,

    There are certainly ways to accomplish what you'd like in the current version of Vellum. However, as WDR points out, they involve some manual labor that is not ideal.

    Our next release makes creating box sets much easier and should be available within a week. Does that work with your timeframe? If not, please get in touch with us directly at [email protected]

    Brilliant to hear thank you, can certainly wait till then. Cheers Brad 😃

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #144 on: September 22, 2015, 02:30:34 pm »
    Any comments on the new layout engine and the KFX standard? I notice the two books I have that are done in Vellum haven't been updated and all of my other books have. I'm not necessarily complaining btw. I like Bookerly, but really dislike the overhyphenation. There are also reports that they're reformatting and defeating choices people have made in their books, which I'm not thrilled with.

    Unfortunately, Amazon has released very few specifics about KFX beyond their initial press release. In fact, even the name KFX is something that was only determined after some intrepid readers unpacked the contents of some of the enhanced mobi files.

    We're hoping that will change, and should they release any technical information, we'll definitely look into how that might affect the eBooks we generate.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #145 on: September 24, 2015, 04:55:13 pm »
    The price drops by $50 a few days after I buy it? Come on, no fair!!

    Ha-ha, I'm kidding! Love the program -- worth every penny -- and thanks for the update! You don't know how happy I am, the ability to change the text size in the editor is a game changer for me! Now I can set it to '36' and save my eyes :D

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    « Reply #146 on: September 24, 2015, 05:48:16 pm »
    I checked out Vellum a little while back and was really impressed. Here is my issue:

    One of the reasons I bought Scrivener was precisely because it has the compile feature and I can use it to format for different uses. I have been writing my WIP in Scrivener. The drawback of Scrivern is that they don't make the output beautiful like Vellum.

    So now what? If I want to use Vellum when I finish, do I compile in Scrivener to a Word format and then upload the Word to Vellum? I don't even know if the Word file would look right/ready to covert to Vellum when it is being generated by Scrivener. I created my WIP so far based on Scrivener's Book with Parts. It all just seem so confusing. I'm not techy as it is.

    I also don't know what happens when Scrivener converts to Word. Another reason I use Scrivener is to avoid pesky Word formating that might mess up the ebook version when uploading to Amazon. All I know is Amazon does not accept files with formattings, especially some embedded in Word. So what happens if Scrivener compiles to a Word format? Will I now create all the formatting issues I tried to avoid in the first place? Will those issues go away when I upload it to Vellum?

    Anyway, these are the reasons I haven't looked back at Vellum. The transfer out of Scrivener to Word then transfer into Vellum scares me as to the technical side, and feels like extra work on the multiple transfer/retransfer.

    If there is an easy explanation/ resolution I would reconsider.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #147 on: September 24, 2015, 06:15:35 pm »
    I checked out Vellum a little while back and was really impressed. Here is my issue:

    One of the reasons I bought Scrivener was precisely because it has the compile feature and I can use it to format for different uses. I have been writing my WIP in Scrivener. The drawback of Scrivern is that they don't make the output beautiful like Vellum.

    So now what? If I want to use Vellum when I finish, do I compile in Scrivener to a Word format and then upload the Word to Vellum? I don't even know if the Word file would look right/ready to covert to Vellum when it is being generated by Scrivener. I created my WIP so far based on Scrivener's Book with Parts. It all just seem so confusing. I'm not techy as it is.

    I also don't know what happens when Scrivener converts to Word. Another reason I use Scrivener is to avoid pesky Word formating that might mess up the ebook version when uploading to Amazon. All I know is Amazon does not accept files with formattings, especially some embedded in Word. So what happens if Scrivener compiles to a Word format? Will I now create all the formatting issues I tried to avoid in the first place? Will those issues go away when I upload it to Vellum?

    Anyway, these are the reasons I haven't looked back at Vellum. The transfer out of Scrivener to Word then transfer into Vellum scares me as to the technical side, and feels like extra work on the multiple transfer/retransfer.

    If there is an easy explanation/ resolution I would reconsider.

    I'd really like to know the answer to this too - I have used Vellum and love it. I'm thinking about transferring to Scrivener for its extra features (not formatting) but wouldn't want to screw up the Vellum bliss.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #148 on: September 24, 2015, 06:18:51 pm »
    I checked out Vellum a little while back and was really impressed. Here is my issue:

    One of the reasons I bought Scrivener was precisely because it has the compile feature and I can use it to format for different uses. I have been writing my WIP in Scrivener. The drawback of Scrivern is that they don't make the output beautiful like Vellum.

    So now what? If I want to use Vellum when I finish, do I compile in Scrivener to a Word format and then upload the Word to Vellum? I don't even know if the Word file would look right/ready to covert to Vellum when it is being generated by Scrivener. I created my WIP so far based on Scrivener's Book with Parts. It all just seem so confusing. I'm not techy as it is.

    I also don't know what happens when Scrivener converts to Word. Another reason I use Scrivener is to avoid pesky Word formating that might mess up the ebook version when uploading to Amazon. All I know is Amazon does not accept files with formattings, especially some embedded in Word. So what happens if Scrivener compiles to a Word format? Will I now create all the formatting issues I tried to avoid in the first place? Will those issues go away when I upload it to Vellum?

    Anyway, these are the reasons I haven't looked back at Vellum. The transfer out of Scrivener to Word then transfer into Vellum scares me as to the technical side, and feels like extra work on the multiple transfer/retransfer.

    If there is an easy explanation/ resolution I would reconsider.

    It's easy in Vellum to import a docx file. I simply drag my file onto the icon, and there I go. So far, I haven't noticed any formatting issues doing it that way. The question really is how well scrivener generates a word file.

    Vellum is completely worth it, though. Beautiful output.

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    Re: Vellum: the official thread
    « Reply #149 on: September 24, 2015, 06:26:33 pm »
    Simple enough, just compile a .docx and drag it into vellum. It doesn't really matter how it was formatted before, because vellum reformats it all anyway.

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