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Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
« Reply #17325 on: May 06, 2017, 03:03:22 pm »
Is my Wait almost over?  It feels like I've been waiting FOREVER.

I was happiest with the 1.7k internal views.  It seems like internals can almost, but not quite, keep a campaign H&T.  Of course, whenever I was off the list, internals would drop to zero, making it really tough to get back on.
Great Stats Matt!
A ton of views.  what was your secret sauce?  My last day is upon me so not like I can use any of it  Dan

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    « Reply #17326 on: May 06, 2017, 03:05:49 pm »
    Great Stats Matt!
    A ton of views.  what was your secret sauce?  My last day is upon me so not like I can use any of it  Dan

    Dan, I think we'd all like to know what's YOUR secret sauce. :D

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    « Reply #17327 on: May 06, 2017, 03:08:10 pm »
    Hi Tom.

    Just a small note

    Speaking as someone from the exact sciences, I do not agree with you. It's not a lottery.

    If you are 1 in 100, and the result is totally random, then your odds are 1%. This is called a lottery.

    But Kindle Scout is not a lottery, there is no luck in it, so it does not make sense to talk about % odds.
    Amazon is a publishing giant, they would not choose their titles randomly.

    It's not like a pretty girl on the TV pulling a ball with a number from inside a box.

    Amazon will actually read our books, not choose it randomly. The selection will go by merit, not by luck.

    So it does not make sense to say that someone has only 2 to 3% chance. It would be more accurate to say that only 2 to 3% of books will be selected, this is true.

    The question is: Will my book be within these 2 to 3%?

    I think that the only way to ensure this is to write a good book with commercial appeal.

    Agree Adrian that its all about the book's quality.  That said, there is a measure of chance involved as to the number of books in a genre and if a book seems to resound with readers that is 'outside' the normal it could catch an editors attention.

    Bottom line, write the best book you can. Dan

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17328 on: May 06, 2017, 03:10:47 pm »
    Dan, I think we'd all like to know what's YOUR secret sauce. :D

    Its a family secret. If i told you I'd be ousted outta the family!

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17329 on: May 06, 2017, 03:14:22 pm »
    Merit is definitely essential, but not the only essential quality. Some of the books that aren't chosen are indeed high quality and meritorious of publication, but KS might not consider the genre particularly marketable at that point in time. Also, the author's previously published work(s) and their success seems to be a factor in some cases, but not all.

    Agree.

    I'll leave the odds and percentages theories up to the gamblers and math teachers. I was an English Language Arts teacher, and always thankful for computer grading programs that did all that for me ;)

     :D I`m a civil engineer, that`s why.


    Adrian, I think Tom's point is that it works better to approach this with the assumption you won't win, but rather, use the 30-day campaign as a book launch platform.

    And MHO, I don't believe selection is luck, but I'm not sure it's entirely merit either. Yes of course the book has to be well written. That's the baseline. But my own personally guess is Amazon selects books based on big data and data science. Just my 2 cents.

    I agree with you too.

    And TOM is right about everything, I just wanted to make clear about the % meaning.
    Well, maybe I`m just a boring guy.
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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17330 on: May 06, 2017, 03:15:32 pm »

    Adrian, I think Tom's point is that it works better to approach this with the assumption you won't win, but rather, use the 30-day campaign as a book launch platform.

    And MHO, I don't believe selection is luck, but I'm not sure it's entirely merit either. Yes of course the book has to be well written. That's the baseline. But my own personally guess is Amazon selects books based on big data and data science. Just my 2 cents.

    I agree with everybody.  I know that sounds silly, but it's completely true.  Amazon (depending on which stats you look at) selects 1-3% of KS submissions to be published.  That also does not mean any one book has a 1-3% chance of selection.  And I agree with Alexa that the Zon has data science as part of the puzzle.  Bottom line, you need an engaging and well-written book to even be considered.  However, books that are perhaps written a little less well can get picked it they are in a hot genre, and very well written books might not be picked.  Like any publisher, there are other things to consider, such as have they published a similar story recently? etc. 

    I'm here to increase my launch, and I don't ever expect to be selected, though that would be spiffy.  I'm not a set and forget KSer.  I do what I can to drive traffic.  My main point in my previous post is that not all authors starting out on the self publishing trail have money to spend on their campaign, and that's okay.  One should not turn away from KS because of little or no budget.  Books with quite low stats have been selected, and books with stats even higher than Tom's have not been.  Even if your focus is on book launch, your launch will go better having done the KS campaign, even if you can't afford to spend money on advertisement.  There are many cheap and free ways to promote your campaign and get some eyes on that book launch.  Launch is important, I've always agreed with Tom on that.

    So please, all you scouters, don't look at Tom's totally well-planned and well-executed campaign and feel like you might as well not bother because you don't have the money or time to follow in his footsteps.  I don't, and I still strongly believe in the Scout program as a ways to maybe get published, and more importantly as a way to get more eyes on your book launch.  Every launch I've had since this started has sold more copies than the book previous.  I don't expect that to end.

    Me, I have made the decision not to spend my limited budget on campaigning here.  I'm saving up for a BookBub.  It's going to take me a while, and there's no guarantee I'll get it, but I'm totally saving money for it. :)
    « Last Edit: May 06, 2017, 03:21:38 pm by JulianneQJohnson »


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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17331 on: May 06, 2017, 03:27:00 pm »
    Amazon (depending on which stats you look at) selects 1-3% of KS submissions to be published.  That also does not mean any one book has a 1-3% chance of selection.

    Exactly, you got the point.

    Are you a mathematician?  :P :P :P

    My note on TOM's  comment about % was just a technical note.
    Everything else he says is correct to me.

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    « Reply #17332 on: May 06, 2017, 03:51:58 pm »
    I think that the only way to ensure this is to write a good book with commercial appeal.

    Hi Adrian,
    I hear you, man. And I totally concur.

    Kerry J Donovan

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17333 on: May 06, 2017, 04:20:13 pm »
    JoAnn, I'll PM you mine.

    Appreciate that!

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    « Reply #17334 on: May 06, 2017, 07:00:04 pm »
    :D I`m a civil engineer, that`s why.
    I like an engineer with nice manners ;)

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    « Reply #17335 on: May 06, 2017, 07:18:02 pm »
    Great Stats Matt!
    A ton of views.  what was your secret sauce?  My last day is upon me so not like I can use any of it  Dan

    My secret was my catchy one-liner:

    "The Final Enemy meets Ryan Kaine"

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    « Reply #17336 on: May 06, 2017, 09:25:28 pm »
    My campaign just ended. Thank you to everyone who nominated "The Neglected Ones".

    Cindy
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    « Reply #17337 on: May 06, 2017, 09:38:24 pm »
    My campaign just ended. Thank you to everyone who nominated "The Neglected Ones".

    Cindy

    I did it, Cindy.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17338 on: May 06, 2017, 09:58:30 pm »
    My current nominations are:

    The Final Enemy by Dan Petrosini
    Animal Graph by M. Black, and
    Eternal Flame by Alexa Kang
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    « Reply #17339 on: May 07, 2017, 02:49:51 am »
    My secret was my catchy one-liner:

    "The Final Enemy meets Ryan Kaine"

    Doubt that did you anything but harm, Matt.
    Five days and still waiting (but who's counting).

    :)

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17340 on: May 07, 2017, 02:59:39 am »
    It's Sunday and we've got some real ark-building weather going on outside. Too bad we have to go shopping for groceries today.

    The craft show was fairly quiet, although I still managed to sell a dozen books. The table fee was low enough to make that profitable. Next Saturday we are going to set up at a local Farmer's Market. We are expecting a lot more traffic and hopefully more sales.

    Now let's get on with the list, shall we?

    Remember - the campaigns that need nominations the most are the ones that are closest to the LAST DAY LEFT, 1 day left, 2 days left etc.

    Updated List

    LAST DAY LEFT! The Final Enemy by Dan Petrosini
    LAST DAY LEFT! Animal Graph by M. Black
    LAST DAY LEFT! Eternal Flame by Alexa Kang
    1 day left Supermind by John Michael Godier
    4 days left Her Forsaken Prince: A Scifi Romance by Maya Hughes
    4 days left What The Hell is Going On Here? by Roman Hawk
    4 days left Spark Out by Nick Rippington
    5 days left Breached by Patrick Doyle
    6 days left Crooks' Corner by David Thompson
    8 days left Dead Close to Reality by Jennifer Bull
    8 days left Vigilante Angels Book 1: The Priest by Billy Decarlo
    11 days left All The Days Ordained by Lynn Leite
    13 days left Cloud Chasers by A. Bol
    18 days left What I Left Behind by Jacqueline Ward
    18 days left The Water Witch by Ron Foster
    19 days left City Under Ice by Te Olivant
    19 days left Snowdrift by Debra Erfert
    19 days left Cold Ground Ginger by Robert Burton Robinson
    20 days left The Reminisce by H.L. Cherryholmes
    21 days left The Inhabitable Boy by J.M. Moreaux
    22 days left Under Jupiter by J.E. Hunter
    25 days left Score of Silence by Mark Gardner
    25 days left The Freak Show Below by Jada Ryker
    28 days left Ghosts in Glass Houses by Kay Charles
    28 days left A Return to Fallbrook by T.T. Rankin

    I put this list up every morning and I strive to keep it up-to-date so that this thread needn't dissolve into a flurry of "NOMINATE MY BOOK, NOMINATE MY BOOK" posts. No one is under any obligation to nominate any of these books. I'm just trying to keep the thread clear of unnecessary clutter. This way once a day there is a complete list of current candidates and folks can readily check out the kboards members who have a book in the running and can make up their own mind. I try and stay nonpartisan about it - which is why I don't comment on any particular book by title. I just keep the list.
     
    If I have missed anyone please let me know either with a PM or by posting a link here in the thread.

    Happy scouting folks!

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17341 on: May 07, 2017, 05:04:42 am »
    Nominations in.  Good luck!

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    « Reply #17342 on: May 07, 2017, 05:26:24 am »
    Nominations in.  Good luck!
    Thanks JoAnn.

    The FINAL day for The FINAL Enemy.  Thanks for all the support and consideration this group has tendered. Dan

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17343 on: May 07, 2017, 05:37:16 am »
    Just added Animal Graph and Eternal Flame to The Final Enemy. Good luck!

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17344 on: May 07, 2017, 06:40:23 am »
    My current nominations are:

    The Final Enemy by Dan Petrosini
    Animal Graph by M. Black, and
    Eternal Flame by Alexa Kang

    Good luck one and all

    Kerry J Donovan

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17345 on: May 07, 2017, 06:40:35 am »
    Used my open slots to nominate the last-day-left'ers. Good luck everyone and happy Sunday to all. Now close that browser and get writing!
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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17346 on: May 07, 2017, 07:56:00 am »
    Thank you JoAnn, Matthewlehr,  JG McKenney, Kerry Donovan, Billy DeCarlo  for the nominations. Really, really appreciate it.

    Best of luck to everyone for a great run and a great finish. This has definitely been a different and challenging experience. For those of you just getting into the game, be sure to check out Tom Swyer's theard. It's full of good info: https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,245964.0.html

    Also, Lincoln Cole's book is a great one to help anyone get started:  http://a.co/aYqBSup

    If you have questions, please feel free to ask. I'll try my best to help and answer, as I'm sure will all the others.

    Thanks also to Steven Vernon for putting up The List everyday and keep rallying us.

    Onto the last stretch for me and then the next phase: The Waiting Game.

    Maybe I should go an reread The Hunger Games.




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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17347 on: May 07, 2017, 08:01:04 am »
    Had two slots open up and nominated:

    Animal Graph by M. Black
    Eternal Flame by Alexa Kang

    Good luck to both!

    Mark

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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17348 on: May 07, 2017, 09:06:18 am »
    Added Animal Graph and Her Forsaken Prince (love SFR) Good luck!!
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    Re: Kindle Scout experiences & Nomination Requests (MERGED)
    « Reply #17349 on: May 07, 2017, 09:51:53 am »
    It's Sunday and we've got some real ark-building weather going on outside. Too bad we have to go shopping for groceries today.

    The craft show was fairly quiet, although I still managed to sell a dozen books. The table fee was low enough to make that profitable. Next Saturday we are going to set up at a local Farmer's Market. We are expecting a lot more traffic and hopefully more sales.

    Now let's get on with the list, shall we?

    Remember - the campaigns that need nominations the most are the ones that are closest to the LAST DAY LEFT, 1 day left, 2 days left etc.

    Updated List

    LAST DAY LEFT! The Final Enemy by Dan Petrosini
    LAST DAY LEFT! Animal Graph by M. Black
    LAST DAY LEFT! Eternal Flame by Alexa Kang
    1 day left Supermind by John Michael Godier
    4 days left Her Forsaken Prince: A Scifi Romance by Maya Hughes
    4 days left What The Hell is Going On Here? by Roman Hawk
    4 days left Spark Out by Nick Rippington
    5 days left Breached by Patrick Doyle
    6 days left Crooks' Corner by David Thompson
    8 days left Dead Close to Reality by Jennifer Bull
    8 days left Vigilante Angels Book 1: The Priest by Billy Decarlo
    11 days left All The Days Ordained by Lynn Leite
    13 days left Cloud Chasers by A. Bol
    18 days left What I Left Behind by Jacqueline Ward
    18 days left The Water Witch by Ron Foster
    19 days left City Under Ice by Te Olivant
    19 days left Snowdrift by Debra Erfert
    19 days left Cold Ground Ginger by Robert Burton Robinson
    20 days left The Reminisce by H.L. Cherryholmes
    21 days left The Inhabitable Boy by J.M. Moreaux
    22 days left Under Jupiter by J.E. Hunter
    25 days left Score of Silence by Mark Gardner
    25 days left The Freak Show Below by Jada Ryker
    28 days left Ghosts in Glass Houses by Kay Charles

    I put this list up every morning and I strive to keep it up-to-date so that this thread needn't dissolve into a flurry of "NOMINATE MY BOOK, NOMINATE MY BOOK" posts. No one is under any obligation to nominate any of these books. I'm just trying to keep the thread clear of unnecessary clutter. This way once a day there is a complete list of current candidates and folks can readily check out the kboards members who have a book in the running and can make up their own mind. I try and stay nonpartisan about it - which is why I don't comment on any particular book by title. I just keep the list.
     
    If I have missed anyone please let me know either with a PM or by posting a link here in the thread.

    Happy scouting folks!

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    Please grab a copy of my Kindle Scout winning novel KELPIE DREAMS - now only 99 cents on Amazon.com during the month of May.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CYNM152
    Hi Steve, may I please have my campaign included on your list? Thank you in advance, and also for maintaining it for all of us!

    https://kindlescout.amazon.com/p/2NR63KLI2KAJ6

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