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Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
« on: July 02, 2015, 04:23:09 am »
Really low.

As usual, the chicken littles got up before the roosters. Blogging about this now, but thought I'd share my 7am graph.



People should wait a month to freak out. Or at least a week. Anyone pulling their works based on 12 hours or 24 hours of a new system reporting are making a knee-jerk reaction.

Keep in mind that Amazon's reporting is often based on PST. So in 4 hours, I have over 60% of yesterday's 24 hour haul. Without a new release.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2015, 04:19:11 pm by Betsy the Quilter »
 
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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #1 on: July 02, 2015, 04:25:43 am »
    Interesting, thanks for posting Hugh.

    My book goes into select on the 18th of August, so all this will be the norm for me!
       

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #2 on: July 02, 2015, 04:27:31 am »
    Interestingly, I had a strong peak in Sales yesterday - almost as if people were confused about the new changes as readers. Can't see how that can be, but it was my best Sales day in around 3 months!

    But I agree - even if someone downloads a title on July 1 we'll only get paid when they actually read the pages.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #3 on: July 02, 2015, 04:28:41 am »
    I get much the same result - is there a pattern here?


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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #4 on: July 02, 2015, 04:31:13 am »
    Thanks for posting this. Not freaking out (I drink instead) but definitely felt defeated today. On June 1 I decided to go all in with Select.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #5 on: July 02, 2015, 04:32:21 am »
    Same pattern here! Anyone else?
    Thanks for posting. :-)
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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #6 on: July 02, 2015, 04:38:54 am »
    I agree. I got one sale and no page reads/borrows for yesterday. Not been that low this year so far. It's best to wait until everything has settled to see how it's really going to work.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #7 on: July 02, 2015, 04:40:40 am »
    I had an insane number of pages read for someone who just has two novellas in KU. It's got to be a glitch. And honestly, glitches are to be expected this early in a change like this. I fully support not making any broad sweeping assumptions based on data that is only a day or two old. Wait until the wrinkles are ironed out.


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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #8 on: July 02, 2015, 04:48:48 am »
    I'm not in Select, but sales were fine yesterday and they're really low so far today. From that I deduce absolutely nothing.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #9 on: July 02, 2015, 04:50:12 am »
    As usual, the chicken littles got up before the roosters. Blogging about this now, but thought I'd share my 7am graph.
    Do you read what you write? There was a problem yesterday! Some are honest about it, some try to hide it with talk about a better tomorrow.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #10 on: July 02, 2015, 04:51:56 am »
    It's not the slow reporting that's a problem, it's the $0.0057 per page of earnings.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #11 on: July 02, 2015, 04:58:33 am »
    Maybe I'm different from other readers, but I download a book when I find one I want to read. Then it just sits on my Kindle until I finish reading something else I've already started. If many are like me, books downloaded yesterday won't show any pages read for days ahead.
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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #12 on: July 02, 2015, 04:59:51 am »
    It's not the slow reporting that's a problem, it's the $0.0057 per page of earnings.

    FUD.

    The pot is being split according to time spent writing and time spent reading. All the money is still going to authors. Your share is just based on something more fair than how you chunk up your novel or series.

    The rest of my thoughts on the mass hysteria: http://wp.me/p6nPrM-8Wh
     
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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #13 on: July 02, 2015, 05:01:49 am »
    I saw the same graph. Nearly the same number of pages read today as yesterday...at 5AM.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #14 on: July 02, 2015, 05:03:26 am »


    My graph at 8 am. Interesting.



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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #15 on: July 02, 2015, 05:04:51 am »
    Your share is just based on something more fair than how you chunk up your novel or series.


    Agree to disagree.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #16 on: July 02, 2015, 05:05:10 am »
    I was planning on leaving Select until I heard about the changes. Now, I'll just wait and see.  ;D

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #17 on: July 02, 2015, 05:09:48 am »
    I was getting borrows, usually about 5 a day on average. I have a graph showing zero pages read. I hope that is a glitch, sigh.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #18 on: July 02, 2015, 05:09:56 am »
    Agree to disagree.

    Nah ... when people are objectively wrong, I don't agree to disagree.

    KU 1.0 was broken.

    KU 2.0 is an improvement.

    And I love that Amazon is willing to iterate, listen to customer and distributor feedback, and make changes.

    There should've been 50 threads on what Scribd did this week. And 2 about KU 2.0.

    But ... marketshare. Rather than principle. And I get that, but all the arm-flapping is pure hysteria, based on nonsense. The only people getting hurt with 2.0 are those who were unfairly rewarded with 1.0.
     
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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #19 on: July 02, 2015, 05:14:18 am »
    I had an insane number of pages read for someone who just has two novellas in KU. It's got to be a glitch. And honestly, glitches are to be expected this early in a change like this. I fully support not making any broad sweeping assumptions based on data that is only a day or two old. Wait until the wrinkles are ironed out.
    I hope it is a glitch because for the first time in forever there have been no sales for two days. I am very depressed.


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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #20 on: July 02, 2015, 05:18:46 am »
    'based on time spent writing'

    Tell us more about your feelings on the short form and the work people put into producing quality works in it.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #21 on: July 02, 2015, 05:20:27 am »
    What you're labeling as 'flipping out', I see as people making rational business decisions. I don't see that many people on here complaining about KU2.  I see them coming to the realization it doesn't work for them.

    Yes, KU1 was unfair. And many people took advantage of that unfairness. But they weren't the ones who put the rules in place. They just responded to them.

    And now the rules have changed, and they're responding again. KU2 works for you. That's great. Congratulations. But I have to make decisions on what works for me.

    You made a comment yesterday that you weren't out to 'maximize your earnings'.  I give you credit for that. You've worked hard and become successful, and because of that you can sit back and let the chips fall where they may. But most of us here aren't in that situation. We're either trying to support our families with the money we're making writing, or we're trying to get out of other jobs so that we can support our families writing.  We don't have the luxury of standing still. If Amazon isn't going to make it worthwhile to give them exclusivity, we can't afford to give it to them.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #22 on: July 02, 2015, 05:20:40 am »
    I'm not sure how being in the UK affects this, but here's mine:



    It's 1:20PM here.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #23 on: July 02, 2015, 05:21:17 am »
    FUD.

    The pot is being split according to time spent writing and time spent reading. All the money is still going to authors. Your share is just based on something more fair than how you chunk up your novel or series.

    The rest of my thoughts on the mass hysteria: http://wp.me/p6nPrM-8Wh

    It isn't right now, given the word count/page count discrepancies, but I'm hoping that is a bug that they will work out.

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    Re: Yesterday's KU Reporting Was Low
    « Reply #24 on: July 02, 2015, 05:22:47 am »
    The pot is being split according to time spent writing and time spent reading. All the money is still going to authors. Your share is just based on something more fair than how you chunk up your novel or series.

    This is what most of these discussions miss. People see the half a cent figure and make conclusions likes "no authors are going to make anything!" or "the average author will make way less than before!" Which, given how it works, is impossible or unlikely.

    A somewhat valid point is that the pool could be divided more ways, because now the pre-10% reading is included in the split. But this relies on the, um, "confident" belief that we Kboarders are somehow immune to having readers quit our books before reaching 10%. It's more likely that we're all getting  credited for that pre-10% portion now, so it makes no difference overall.

    As a short story writer, I'll likely make much less than before. If I let my brain process that (instead of my whiny, emotional wallet), it's just a correction for me making too much in KU 1.0. It's like I got the "bank error in your favour" card in Monopoly. I'm happy I got it, but I never expected to keep picking it up. If the next few months indeed result in slow progress before passing "go," I can always try a new strategy. Luckily this game has no end.

    For the record, I got lower than expected page reads yesterday, and zero this morning. With my degree in statistics, this allows me to deduce the following fascinating conclusions:  * ABSOLUTELY * NOTHING *

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