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Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
« Reply #225 on: April 23, 2020, 07:06:35 am »
You might gain more clients if you proofread the first book or x number of pages for free to prove you can proofread.

I have hired many a proofreader who called themselves an expert only to discover they were an expert at not proofreading.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #226 on: April 28, 2020, 08:47:12 am »
    Proofreading jobs have tapered off, though I'm expecting another one from Relay in the next couple of weeks. Are people using their time at home productively, while staying safe and well? I hope so!

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #227 on: May 05, 2020, 09:34:07 am »
    You might gain more clients if you proofread the first book or x number of pages for free to prove you can proofread.

    I have hired many a proofreader who called themselves an expert only to discover they were an expert at not proofreading.

    I am sorry that happened to you.

    However, in my own case I have a solid resume to back up my claim to be a professional proofreader (a good deal of the information from it is reproduced in my LinkedIn profile nowadays: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-r-dean/?msgConversationId=6647251758194180096&msgOverlay=true

    While I'm glad to provide a sample proofread of a chapter or so if a client requests it, doing a whole book for free is not going to happen. This is how I make my living; I can't afford to invest that much of my time and not get paid for it.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #228 on: May 12, 2020, 09:26:54 am »
    My employment coach has given me a lot of good advice, but one thing I'm not sure about is that she wants me to conceal my age. For most lines of work this may be a good idea, but copyediting and proofreading? I think it's a plus that I grew up at a time when things like spelling and grammar were still regularly taught in school.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #229 on: May 19, 2020, 03:16:20 pm »
    While I'm glad to provide a sample proofread of a chapter or so if a client requests it, doing a whole book for free is not going to happen. This is how I make my living; I can't afford to invest that much of my time and not get paid for it.

    Well, actually I did a whole book for free once, but that was a special case. In 2017 our church celebrated its 150th anniversary (First Presbyterian Church of Santa Fe is the oldest Protestant church in New Mexico and Arizona combined), and one of the ways we commemorated that was to reissue a book about the church's history, Not Ordered by Men, that had been written for the 100th anniversary in 1967. For the reissue in digital form they used a scan of the original printing, and as you may know it's easy for errors to be made in the scanning process. So I volunteered to proofread the scanned book, gratis, as my contribution to my church and to the 150th anniversary celebrations.

    It was interesting to read the book … and I still have my FPC-SF 150th Anniversary mug, too!
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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #230 on: May 26, 2020, 10:16:51 am »
    I've already voted in the New Mexico primary election, by mail (absentee ballot). Participating in our democracy and staying safe it's all good!

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    « Reply #231 on: June 02, 2020, 02:16:02 pm »
    Today is the official day of the New Mexico primary election, but I've already done that (see previous post).

    Instead I had one last Skype call with my employment coach, after a two-month hiatus due to the pandemic. We agreed that conditions have not changed sufficiently in the intervening time for me to start pounding the pavement for a part-time office job, and that apart from that she's done her duty by me and we can part with thanks.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #232 on: June 09, 2020, 04:33:15 pm »
    Even though my schedule is fairly open, I feel it is a good idea to have at least a ballpark set of dates for proposed jobs.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #233 on: June 16, 2020, 09:21:05 am »
    Last week I met a local author while walking down my street, though it appears we are not close neighbors. I was able to use what she told me to contact her online, though!

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #234 on: June 23, 2020, 09:59:19 am »
    Is a fictitious modern Middle Eastern kingdom, with no hint of Islamic cultural influence other than Arabic names, any more believable to a contemporary reader than King Handsome V of Magicland, used by Miss Manners for an illustration?

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    « Reply #235 on: June 30, 2020, 09:42:40 am »
    Is a fictitious modern Middle Eastern kingdom, with no hint of Islamic cultural influence other than Arabic names, any more believable to a contemporary reader than King Handsome V of Magicland, used by Miss Manners for an illustration?

    Well, evidently this isn't a matter of concern for the publishers. I guess readers of category romance don't demand the same kind of believability as, say, readers of fantasy and science fiction tend to.

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    « Reply #236 on: July 07, 2020, 08:56:57 am »
    But then, I don't read category romance recreationally, though over the course of my professional career I've proofread reams of it. I do read fantasy and science fiction recreationally, as well as historical mysteries from time to time, and good worldbuilding is something I value.

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    « Reply #237 on: July 14, 2020, 09:07:16 am »
    For that reason, authors who seem to largely dispense with any sort of description get under my skin a bit. Do their readers really not care that the setting, or the minor characters, practically don't exist? When you're writing a story, remember, the words are all you have to create the world with, to connect with and spark the reader's imagination.

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    « Reply #238 on: July 21, 2020, 08:55:10 am »
    Description doesn't have to be elaborate. A few telling details are enough to snap a setting or a character into focus.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #239 on: July 28, 2020, 09:52:59 am »
    Something I've wondered about the romance genre for a while now, and even more recently in the face of the Black Lives Matter movement: do people of color have their own romance lines? Because I've rarely-to-never been sent a romance to proofread where the male and female leads are something other than white. Is that because such stories don't get written at all? Or just because they're not published by the same publishers as the ones written for (or about) white people?

    I do know that there is, for instance, a separate market for male/male romance (though, again, I myself have never been sent one), because I have an e-friend who writes these. So I could perfectly well believe that there is a separate market for "romance between people of color". I've just never run across any.

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    « Reply #240 on: August 04, 2020, 09:52:38 am »
    After posting the question I posed last week on Facebook as well, I actually got a useful answer from my daughter-in-law, who knows more about the romance field than I do. The link she sent me to an article in the Guardian told me all about it:

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/apr/04/fifty-shades-of-white-romance-novels-racism-ritas-rwa?fbclid=IwAR1jIie8Vu1NWPBsl5yB10b6ItUdBTX1ZmkUPM902_pUaPuCWcrSDFevd1o

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    « Reply #241 on: August 11, 2020, 10:18:45 am »
    I do like having a daughter-in-law.  :)

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    « Reply #242 on: August 18, 2020, 10:32:36 am »
    I do like having a daughter-in-law.  :)

    I was able to get her into reading Georgette Heyer, too, which is a plus. This was actually before she and my son got formally engaged. Now they read her together--along with a good number of other authors from what I understand.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #243 on: August 25, 2020, 10:20:56 am »
    A number of recent jobs proofreading contemporary romance inspired me to compose the following clerihew:

    The Navy SEAL
    Is the modern romance beau ideal.
    He rescues the heroine from the villain,
    And in the bedroom he's thrillin'.

    (So what is a "clerihew", you ask? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew)

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #244 on: September 01, 2020, 10:36:03 am »
    Cowboys / ranchers are also still popular, evidently.

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    « Reply #245 on: September 08, 2020, 09:09:15 am »
    Cowboys / ranchers are also still popular, evidently.

    As are billionaires, unsurprisingly.

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #246 on: September 15, 2020, 12:32:39 pm »
    Many thanks to Ryan Mullaney, author of the Treasure Huntress series, for giving me a fresh testimonial to add to my LinkedIn profile! As well as the latest installment in his series to work on.  :)

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    « Reply #247 on: September 22, 2020, 10:19:50 am »
    Not only is it the autumnal equinox, it's Bilbo and Frodo's birthday. Happy Hobbit Day!

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    Re: Experienced Professional Proofreader Going Independent
    « Reply #248 on: September 28, 2020, 09:30:13 am »
    Just wanted to give Margaret a shout out for her excellent work on my upcoming mystery. She was on time, incredibly reasonable in her rates and attentive to every detail. I would gladly recommend her to a colleague without reservation. I'm looking forward to working with her on the next several books in the series!



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    « Reply #249 on: Yesterday at 10:28:40 am »
    Many thanks for the testimonial, Liam! I enjoyed the mystery and will look forward to working on future installments of Mafalda Marchand's adventures.

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