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    « Reply #26 on: November 05, 2015, 11:00:22 pm »
    As to Amazon being ruthless, NO they're not. They're just a big company with a lot of automation.

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #27 on: November 06, 2015, 03:39:51 am »
    They sent me a warning and I'm glad they did. It gave me a chance to update all  my keywords for 19 books which took some time. I found an old short story with 'free' as a keyword from when it was permafree and thought that might be the only offending one.

    I didn't bother to check my 6 translations and they pulled one because it had 'Portugus kindle'. I changed it and took out the word 'kindle'. It was back up the next day.
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    « Reply #28 on: November 06, 2015, 03:52:33 am »
    Facebook turned down my ad for my six book series about Bloody Mary (Queen Mary I of England) because they think I am advertising alcohol. I am still waiting for a reply.

    Really? Sorry, it probably isn't a laughing matter to you, but this made me chuckle in a head-shaking disbelief sort of way.

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #29 on: November 06, 2015, 05:28:52 am »
    Really? Sorry, it probably isn't a laughing matter to you, but this made me chuckle in a head-shaking disbelief sort of way.
    Don't worry, Sam, you are not alone. Many on the Facebook ad group think it hilarious as well. I have been able to change the copy to read 'the Brutal reign of Queen Mary I' but it doesn't quite have the same ring to it. I am planning a video ad at the end of the month and I really wanted to use the nickname. If they bothered to read the copy they would see it is not about vodka and tomato juice with a dash of Worcester sauce!


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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #30 on: November 06, 2015, 05:34:38 am »
    Don't worry, Sam, you are not alone. Many on the Facebook ad group think it hilarious as well. I have been able to change the copy to read 'the Brutal reign of Queen Mary I' but it doesn't quite have the same ring to it. I am planning a video ad at the end of the month and I really wanted to use the nickname. If they bothered to read the copy they would see it is not about vodka and tomato juice with a dash of Worcester sauce!

    And perhaps a drop or two of Tabasco.

    What a crazy world this can be.  :)

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    « Reply #31 on: November 06, 2015, 05:38:57 am »
    If it did happen, then good. It is high time Amazon enforce its own policies. Keywords should only be for the actual content of your book. Unless your book is how to become a bestseller, bestseller should not be in the keywords.

    Amazon search is completely broken. And it is broken because A. everyone just does what the heck they want regardless of the TOS and B. to date Amazon has allowed everyone to do just whatever they want without consequences.

    And the problem is that this isn't just a books issue. It is about trying to find ANYTHING on Amazon. The entire store is becoming impossible to use unless you have a manufacturer product number to search with. Amazon used to be my first place to go to find stuff for the office. I used to be able to get replacement florescent bulbs, emergency back-up batteries, replacement parts for tools, and all sorts of stuff for our workplace easily. Now it just takes too long to find anything so I just go to Grainger or MSCDirect or another vendor.

    As a customer I love Amazon, so I desperately hope they are taking action to clean their house.

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #32 on: November 06, 2015, 05:42:37 am »
    Hah!  Who else just ran to their bookshelf to make sure they didn't have that word on their permafrees?   ;D

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #33 on: November 06, 2015, 05:47:42 am »
    And perhaps a drop or two of Tabasco.

    What a crazy world this can be.  :)

    Well, I don't drink so I only know the basics. I am sure I am going to use bloody Mary together with the chalice and some brain dead dipstick is going to be quite sure it is advertising alcohol! We shall see.


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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #34 on: November 06, 2015, 06:06:12 am »
    I wonder if they'll start enforcing their title-stuffing policies at some point.

    I really hope they do. It is a huge bugbear of mine. I know I am losing out on search visibility to subtitle stuffed books, that quite clearly do not have the subtitle on the book covers, or even on their title pages. This is supposedly a big no-no, but in moments of despair, I often start thinking "if you can't beat them join them..." I have resisted the temptation so far!

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #35 on: November 06, 2015, 06:10:34 am »
    Did they? Where does this sort of data even come from?

    Not sure where the author got it from, but I had noticed that the number of kindle books on Amazon had passed the 4 million point recently. Today it has fallen to 3.95 million, so somewhere in the region of 10k have been removed I think.

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #36 on: November 06, 2015, 07:09:02 am »
    Amazon search is completely broken. [...] The entire store is becoming impossible to use unless you have a manufacturer product number to search with.

    That is just hyperbolic nonsense! I do hundreds of searches a year, for all sorts of things, and have no trouble finding what I want along with suggestions for possible substitutes, which I sometimes buy instead.

    Amazon is great. Imperfect, yes, but still very easy to use.




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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #37 on: November 06, 2015, 07:14:58 am »
    Suppose I had a blurb that said something like:

    Mindy was a free-spirit who liked to kindle the flames of controversy.
    That means you are screwed, Amazon can not ignore these keywords?

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    « Reply #38 on: November 06, 2015, 07:20:46 am »
    Not sure where the author got it from, but I had noticed that the number of kindle books on Amazon had passed the 4 million point recently. Today it has fallen to 3.95 million, so somewhere in the region of 10k have been removed I think.

    Where can you see the total number of kindle books available?

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #39 on: November 06, 2015, 07:59:31 am »
    Hah!  Who else just ran to their bookshelf to make sure they didn't have that word on their permafrees?   ;D


    Me. And I did remove Free from the subtitle. They've been pretty strict about it not being in the keyword list for a long time, though. This is one of the reasons I posted this thread. Once upon a time, Amazon was okay with just about any keywords that increased traffic. And in my case, free is true because it's a permafree that's been free for years.

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    « Reply #40 on: November 06, 2015, 08:20:05 am »
    Is there a master list anywhere detailing words to avoid in the keywords?  having read a few threads it seems to be:

    free
    KU
    kindle
    kindle unlimited
    best seller
    *any reference to an existing title or author i.e. "Harry Potter"

    Any others words or categories?

    What about things like "New York Times" or other accolades?  I assume they should be avoided (not that I qualify anyway!)

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    « Reply #41 on: November 06, 2015, 09:13:59 am »
    Is there a master list anywhere detailing words to avoid in the keywords?

    What about things like "New York Times" or other accolades?  I assume they should be avoided (not that I qualify anyway!)

    Keywords should only be about content, so accolades, awards, etc. should be avoided as well. Basically, if it's related to the book as a product, rather than as a story, it's out.

    Edit: Here's the relevant quote from their guidelines, emphasis mine:

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    Reference to other authors
    Reference to books by other authors
    Reference to sales rank (i.e. 'best-selling')
    Reference to advertisements or promotions (i.e. 'free')
    Reference to anything that is unrelated to your book's content

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    « Reply #42 on: November 06, 2015, 09:19:07 am »
    What Jen said. Just as yourself if the keyword describes what's actually *in* the book and you should be fine

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #43 on: November 06, 2015, 09:28:53 am »
    Facebook turned down my ad for my six book series about Bloody Mary (Queen Mary I of England) because they think I am advertising alcohol.


    Rewording, or re-ordering maybe?

    The fourth crowned monarch of the Tudor dynasty, England's Bloody Queen Mary, is remembered for her restoration of Roman Catholicism after the short-lived Protestant reign of her half-brother. During her five-year reign, she had over 280 religious dissenters burned at the stake in the Marian persecutions.

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    « Reply #44 on: November 06, 2015, 10:27:01 am »
    Rewording, or re-ordering maybe?

    The fourth crowned monarch of the Tudor dynasty, England's Bloody Queen Mary, is remembered for her restoration of Roman Catholicism after the short-lived Protestant reign of her half-brother. During her five-year reign, she had over 280 religious dissenters burned at the stake in the Marian persecutions.
    I have reworded it, Mark, but it doesn't have the same ring to it. I have a video ad planned which would be much better with the nickname, but that and the communion chalice is going to convince whoever it is that it is about booze. Ridiculous. I don't understand why I have heard nothing about the appeal though. I mean do they take any notice? They only have to read it to see they are wrong.


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    I am now craving a Bloody Mary. Preferably a free one.
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    « Reply #46 on: November 06, 2015, 10:45:35 am »
    I'm pretty sure if this was true, there would have been a whole mess of "They deleted my book" posts on kboards.

    They actually pulled five of my books. AFTER I removed the offending keywords 'free' and 'gratis' (= free in Dutch). They forgot to mention that I also needed to remove the 'kindle' keyword AND they did this after I emailed KDP support and asked them whether my books were all okay now. They said yes... five days alter, they told me I hadn't taken action and pulled five of my freebies, effectively killing my rankings. Thanks, Amazon :(

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    Re: Amazon cracked down - Removed thousands of titles yesterday
    « Reply #47 on: November 06, 2015, 10:47:57 am »
    Where can you see the total number of kindle books available?

    Go to amazon.com > kindle store. On the left hand pane it says Kindle eBooks (3,949,768) as of right now.

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    « Reply #48 on: November 06, 2015, 10:56:46 am »
    Right around two thousand a day are being published, so just maintaining rank is a mark of success.
     
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    « Reply #49 on: November 06, 2015, 11:07:45 am »
    Go to amazon.com > kindle store. On the left hand pane it says Kindle eBooks (3,949,768) as of right now.

    Well, well, I didn't know that was there. Thank you!

    ETA: There are just over 4m on the UK site, which surprises me. I'd have thought there's be more on the US site.
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