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For those of you who have already finished all three books, this is the place to post questions, make comments, and so on, without worrying about spoilers.

If you haven't read the trilogy yet, DON'T look at the posts in this thread! They will undoubtedly contain spoilers.

Join us when you have finished. We'll be here! :)
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 11:06:15 am »
    I've only finished two books, but no one else has posted here so I will.
    I'm a little confused whether "The Scourge" was a random collection of bandits or if Wrothgar sent them. If the big W did send them, what did he want in the Silver City?

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 06:52:15 pm »
    The Scourge was a collection of marauders/bandits/'bad' people who were united under the banner of causing as much havoc as possible while enriching themselves. They were not sent by 'Dubya', though they were certainly ruled by Darkness and would have earned the 'Wrothgar stamp of approval'. He's definitely not the all-knowing 'Epitome of Evil' that many Alterrans believe he is. He HAS been around forever, but he is not the ultimate evil in the universe.

    In a post-plague society, such collections of marauders were not uncommon due to breakdown of normal constraints. The plague was especially bad in the South, where the Scourge was originally formed (around their butt-ugly giant lizard!)  ;) The warriors and thieves who flocked to the Scourge's call desired power, security, and the reassurance of some form of discipline.  They wanted to 'belong' to a 'tribe' again.   
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 06:35:15 am »
    I saw later that "Dubya" (interesting...this isn't the place, but if you're saying someone else with that nickname was in the same camp, I agree) was surprised to learn about Dun Arian. I thought the scourge was too large to hold together as a bandit gang, but the dragon certainly helped. Another story you might tell someday is how they found the dragon.

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 08:03:57 am »
    Robin: Who, me? (Whistles innocently at use of nickname 'Dubya').
    Actually, my favorite dog's name is 'Wally' and my hubs started calling him 'Dubya', which is okay...not all Dubyas are in Darkness.

    Wrothgar sensed some center of annoying enlightenment somewhere to the South, but he couldn't really get a positive ID. Now he knows.
    Fortunately, Dun Arian is isolated enough that almost no one knows about it. Wrothgar has little to worry about as far as such a realm threatening him, though he desires to extinguish enlightenment wherever he finds it (enlightened people are free thinkers and cannot be controlled. That's why he hates them).
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #5 on: April 28, 2010, 11:30:30 am »
    Favorite quotes from Ravenshade:

    "For whatever fate befall, may Evil come to All, as the Darkness rules the Light, Death take Elves this night" (Gorgon, just before he put on the amulet for the first time)

    "I have yoked the uproarious forest condemned" (Elmorah speaking Elvish  ;))

    ...and my favorite (I love those that elicit emotion from me):  'One day, I shall send her back to you,' said Orogond.  Then he turned away lest tears should come.

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #6 on: April 28, 2010, 03:55:55 pm »
    Brew:

    Yes, the line from Orogond is one of my favorites, as well.  :'( That whole scene was quite emotional for me.

    I also like Gaelen's line at the end of Fire-heart: 'Dark Horror, the time has come for us to dance.' If you've seen the trailer, you know that we got GOOD use out of Gorgon's sinister little 'prayer'.

    Please tell me what you thought of the trilogy overall, now that you've finished it?
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #7 on: April 28, 2010, 05:56:59 pm »
    I think having all three books to be able to read one after the other was a benefit.  I plan to post a review to Elfhunter on Amazon to that effect so people know when they buy the first one they should buy all three.

    Today when I finished Ravenshade I felt very much like I have after training for a 100-mile bike ride,  a marathon or even my MBA...I worked for months to get in shape, looked forward to the event for months as well, felt a sort of elation at the end and then proceeded to wander aimlessly for days afterward wondering "what do I do now?".  I think your readers put a lot into the books as they read them, and that's a credit to the writing.  It's been a VERY long time since I've been drawn into a series of books like I was to the Elfhunter trilogy.  I loved all three for different reasons, and they really became one story instead of a definitive "each" on its own.  It's also been a long time since I've talked as much about a series of books to others.  Normally I read a book and then just move on to the next one, enjoying the brief entertainment of the day, and that's not a bad thing, but no more than that.  The trilogy is more than that to me and I thank you for that!  :)

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    « Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 07:28:18 am »
    I have to say, "Light".   ;)

    I think Gorgon grew over the course of the three books.  Given the same choice in Elfhunter, he would have no doubt chosen Dark.  However, I think that his allowing Galen to live (he could have killed her to satisfy himself and THEN jumped into the fire) AND the fact that he was presented with a choice that he spent any time at all considering (again, I don't think the Gorgon we knew in  Elfhunter would have deliberated at all and would have gone straight to Dark) says he grew enough to know and appreciate the Light and would have chosen Light.

    To borrow a phrase, "I'm just sayin'..."   ;D

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #9 on: April 29, 2010, 08:18:01 am »
    Brew: I hope for his sake that you're right!  :)
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #10 on: April 29, 2010, 07:00:53 pm »
    Stumper question:  At the end of Ravenshade Shandor comes wandering out of nowhere to Mountain Home to a big-smile welcome.  Why didn't he show up early enough to help deal with the army Wrothgar sent to defeat Mountain Home?  Seems he would have had time, especially given his powers, no?

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #11 on: April 29, 2010, 07:39:54 pm »
    MEGA SPOILER! BEWARE!

    No. He doesn't smash the Stone until the battle is nearly over, and he had to do that first. Remember...it's the destruction of the Stone that takes the heart from Wrothgar's forces.

    (Nice try, though!)

    Shandor is welcomed by Ordath, who is very devoted to her father. She has been hoping for his release from the prison of his own grief for a very long time.  :)

    Addendum: Shandor is powerful, but he still has to travel within the physical limits of his body. He can't teleport himself or run faster than a speeding bullet (errr, arrow!). It's a fair jaunt from Tal-sithian to Mountain-home.
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 07:41:57 am »
    Aaarrrrrgggg!  I though for sure I'd stumped you on that one.  You're tough!   :)

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 09:22:05 am »
    Brew: You have a non-revokable Alterran visa. You can DO this!
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #14 on: April 30, 2010, 12:38:31 pm »
    Ok, bear with me as I'm grasping here:

    Given the Company was down under Cold Mountain when it started to heat up and the nasty vapors were everywhere, they stayed because they had a job to do and as a result the vapors took their toll on some...however, nobody died from them right?  So would nasty vapors that the Company could live through really be strong enough to tarnish Gaelen's fire cloak, a cloak that could stand a dragon's fire?  The vapors came from the same kind of lava that they ran into in the Fire Mountains when Gaelen first used it to save Fima, right?  But no tarnish then...what was different about the tarnishing vapors under Cold Mountain?

    Mwaaaaahhhh, hhhaaaaaaa, hhhhaaaaaa...

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #15 on: April 30, 2010, 12:54:46 pm »
    Dragon fire is not the same as volcanic magma, but that's not the answer.
    Volcanoes often 'vent' things other than fire, including sulfuric acid (the result of reaction between water and Hydrogen Sulfide, and so on). There was plenty of water from the melting ice, and plenty of Hydrogen sulfide (the foul, acrid smell the characters kept complaining about). What fire does not affect, acid might. The incident in the fire mountains was out in the open air. Any sulfurous vapors would have been mitigated, and there was very little (if any!) moisture for them to react with.

    The fire cloak still works, BTW, it just doesn't look the same. Gaelen still has it. She has tested it and discovered that it is still functional, but at the time everyone thought it was kaput.

    Nobody died, but Fima and Orogond certainly had their difficulties. Fortunately, Fima didn't get the full brunt or it would have finished him.

    That was an excellent attempt, Brew! I bow to you.

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #16 on: April 30, 2010, 12:58:40 pm »
    Ah, Archer, you are always able to give me a smile.   :)

    Happy Weekend!

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #17 on: April 30, 2010, 01:01:53 pm »
    Well, I think you'll get a shirt just for effort! Besides, I love these questions. They make me think and put me right back in Alterra again.
    Have a terrific weekend, Brewster.
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #18 on: April 30, 2010, 05:54:28 pm »
    Thanx!   ;D 

    I'll keep at it and maybe one day, some day, I'll come up with something that makes you say, "Hmmmm, I don't have any idea why".

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #19 on: May 16, 2010, 06:47:14 am »
    WHAT COLOR ARE ESTLE'S EYES?

    The first person who can quote the answer to this question wins a prize!
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #20 on: May 16, 2010, 02:13:46 pm »
    'Her eyes were grey, like Hallagond's...'.  ;D

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #21 on: May 16, 2010, 02:56:07 pm »
    Oh, you are a foxy lad!
    You shall be rewarded.
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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #22 on: May 16, 2010, 03:21:13 pm »
    Always a pleasure.   ;)

    (Notice the single quotes above?   ;D)

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #23 on: May 16, 2010, 06:16:22 pm »
    Oh, dear...my idiosyncrasies are contagious!
     :P

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    Re: For those who have finished the trilogy already--SPOILERS GALORE!
    « Reply #24 on: June 02, 2010, 03:59:02 pm »
    I've already read the trilogy AND the short story. Lucky me  ;D Are you considering making your new story into a trilogy?

    Can't wait for Outcaste...and GenCon!

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