Author Topic: The End is Nigh. Maybe not, but it could be! / Used Ebooks? (MERGED)  (Read 5429 times)  

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A keen-eyed author noticed the addition of used prices to ebooks. It's not on the product pages and is probably a glitch or something unrelated, but if you've been looking for something to panic over and just haven't found the right thing yet, give this a try! :P


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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #1 on: March 05, 2016, 09:41:43 am »
    This must be in split testing because I'm not seeing those "buy used" options on your book, or others who have mentioned this is happening... at least not yet...

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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #2 on: March 05, 2016, 09:43:30 am »
    Are you looking at the author page? That seems to be the place it consistently appears.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 05, 2016, 09:47:18 am »
    I saw that last time someone mentioned used ebooks. As long as it links to the right page, all is fine.
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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #4 on: March 05, 2016, 09:47:45 am »
    You're right -- there it is. Under every single title I checked. Including my own -- indie & traditional. ugh.

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    « Reply #5 on: March 05, 2016, 09:50:55 am »
    I saw that last time someone mentioned used ebooks. As long as it links to the right page, all is fine.

    I really don't think used ebooks are imminent, but I'm not sure what you mean by the above.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 05, 2016, 09:51:20 am »
    Joy. I hope Google and iBooks don't copy this. Used audiobooks anyone? Wonder what Audible is up to.

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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 09:58:31 am »
    what the heck?

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    « Reply #8 on: March 05, 2016, 10:00:36 am »
    This issue actually came up three years ago. When it was announced Amazon bought the patent for selling used e-books

    http://the-digital-reader.com/2013/02/21/used-ebooks-101/


    I think the speculation at that time was, it was something that would only be for really expensive text books and manuals. Not for fiction. But there was a bit of a panic when it was announced.

    Are these two things related. Who knows?

    Can Amazon do whatever they heck they want to now that there's no real  competition?

    They sure as heck can.

    But in the end... I think this is a glitch. I don't see how they could turn a profit with used e-books. It would devalue their entire e-book catalog.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 05, 2016, 10:01:43 am »
    I just googled this, and found this article:

    http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/used-ebooks-is-a-ridiculous-idea-that-could-ruin-authors-publishers

    It's definitely interesting... it's from 2013, and it's a strange theory ;)
    « Last Edit: March 05, 2016, 10:04:45 am by Marysol James »

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    « Reply #10 on: March 05, 2016, 10:02:30 am »
    I really don't think used ebooks are imminent, but I'm not sure what you mean by the above.

    What I meant is that when you click on that link, it doesn't take you to some page with used&new listings like it does with paperbacks. It just redirects to your Kindle edition page, which is good.
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    « Reply #11 on: March 05, 2016, 10:02:41 am »
    Mm... That is interesting. All of mine say '2 offers' too. It links back to the normal product page.

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    « Reply #12 on: March 05, 2016, 10:07:15 am »
    Yes, the link back might be the idea that Amazon is trying to (and I quote):

    Amazon may have secured the patent simply to bury it, to eliminate any possible threat of a secondhand ebook market to its standard business.

    Maybe this is why it 'exists' but really, it just goes back to the main product page??

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    « Reply #13 on: March 05, 2016, 10:13:55 am »
    Or! it's phase one of the rollout. :)

    I really don't think they legally can sell used ebooks, but Amazon is a dangerous beastie. Who knows what they're up to.

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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #14 on: March 05, 2016, 10:27:17 am »
    Has anyone with an Amazon rep asked about it?

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    « Reply #15 on: March 05, 2016, 10:32:47 am »
    I had to laugh when I saw two offers for my used copies of my preorder!
     
     
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    « Reply #16 on: March 05, 2016, 10:35:31 am »
    I find interesting because readers don't own ebooks but licensed them.  So,  who holds the "master license"? Authors/Publishers? And who dictates how much that license can be resold for? Amazon?

    I have so many questions but will wait to see how this plays out.

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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #17 on: March 05, 2016, 10:36:09 am »
    I just googled this, and found this article:
    http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/used-ebooks-is-a-ridiculous-idea-that-could-ruin-authors-publishers
    It's definitely interesting... it's from 2013, and it's a strange theory ;)

    Thanks for sharing that. I have no problem believing AMZN would have that agenda. From their perspective, 'publishers' are unnecessary middlemen. Unfortunately, an e-book resale model would also likely mean lower revenue for indies.

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    « Reply #18 on: March 05, 2016, 10:43:32 am »
    Am I missing something? When I went to the author page and clicked on the More Buying Choices link, it was exclusively paperbacks; they all had shipping costs and delivery estimates.



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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #19 on: March 05, 2016, 10:48:57 am »
    That has been there forever. It's just about paperbacks etc. I really wouldn't worry about. Amazon isn't stupid and the class action lawsuit that would drop on them so fast from trying to sell a licensed product like an ebook as a used thing would be epic.

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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #20 on: March 05, 2016, 10:53:02 am »
    That has been there forever. It's just about paperbacks etc. I really wouldn't worry about. Amazon isn't stupid and the class action lawsuit that would drop on them so fast from trying to sell a licensed product like an ebook as a used thing would be epic.

    Except it hasn't been there forever on ebooks. That part *is* new.

    I'm not worried, just having some fun. I do think, however, at some point, used ebooks will be a thing.

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    « Reply #21 on: March 05, 2016, 11:00:41 am »
    I noticed the "new and used" buying option for e-book on my book page about 2 weeks ago. When you click the link it takes you back to the kindle edition.

    I'm sure it's a sign of the coming apocalypse. I'm stocking up on vodka and toilet paper...  ;)

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    « Reply #22 on: March 05, 2016, 11:02:02 am »

    I'm sure it's a sign of the coming apocalypse. I'm stocking up on vodka and toilet paper...  ;)

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    Re: *** The End is Nigh! Probably. Maybe not, but it could be! ***
    « Reply #23 on: March 05, 2016, 11:11:22 am »
    I find interesting because readers don't own ebooks but licensed them.  So,  who holds the "master license"? Authors/Publishers? And who dictates how much that license can be resold for? Amazon?

    I have so many questions but will wait to see how this plays out.


    I believe, the license holder would be the author for self-publishers and the publishing company for traditionally published authors.

    If Amazon were considering rolling this out (this might be an early-early beta-test), we would have to be informed as only we (the self-publishers) could enroll and name our price for resell.

    I'm not worried, just curious. Waiting to see what happens next.

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    « Reply #24 on: March 05, 2016, 11:12:28 am »
    There are so many books on Amazon already, maybe they figure they don't need any more. They can just keep selling and reselling the same 'used' ebooks forever, and all the money stays in house.


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