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« on: March 02, 2018, 03:36:45 pm »
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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #1 on: March 02, 2018, 04:01:49 pm »
    My experience with my own writing is pretty similar to your description.

    I've been informed that editors/readers seem to experience my writing in a way very different than I do. So I just chalk it up to me being some sort of cyborg and move on. It's apparently being enjoyed even if not the same way I enjoy it.
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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #2 on: March 02, 2018, 04:22:32 pm »
    As far as I've learned, if a scene that's supposed to scare or thrill the audience makes them laugh it's often because the situation is outdone - it has to do with managing the tension. If the tension becomes too much to bear, the audience will either walk out or just drop the suspension of disbelief and start openly laughing at things nobody should seemingly laugh at - that's why sometimes you'll find horror movies people laugh at. It's a sort of defense built in ourselves. It could also, of course, be that the situation is just ridiculous and veritably funny even if the author doesn't think so, which I guess must hurt the author's ego really bad.

    However, that's for audiences. I really don't know what applies to authors, since I write comedy and therefore if I'm not laughing or at least amused while writing something is seriously wrong :P

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #3 on: March 02, 2018, 04:47:22 pm »
    I'm the exact opposite. I try to write funny, and I wind up with murdered parents and horrible violence and angst.
             

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #4 on: March 02, 2018, 04:51:24 pm »
    Sounds like you've got a knack for comedy. If it works, keep at it!

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #5 on: March 02, 2018, 05:07:56 pm »
    There goes a side job of writing personal memoirs of politicians.  ;D

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #6 on: March 02, 2018, 05:15:40 pm »
    Humor is great, just be sure you're not giving in to the fear of not being good enough and self-sabotaging. :)

    Now that's a malady I strongly suspect I am going through now. LOL

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #7 on: March 02, 2018, 11:34:23 pm »
    Not a complaint, more of an observation and I'm wondering if any others experience the same.

    I find whenever I set out to write a suspense/thriller/horror, or pretty much any other genre for that matter, I can't do it without laughing at myself and then subverting any attempt I make to seriously thrill/horrify or keep to whatever other aspects would make what I write a 'serious' work within a given genre.

    I'll read a chapter or two of something I'd written, something that was a serious attempt at thrilling the reader or a serious attempt at another genre, and I find it impossible to take seriously. That probably says something about my ability as a writer or lack thereof, but rather than it making me sad or disappointed, instead I've come to realize I'm better off writing humor/satire/parody because it's what I wind up doing anyway even when I initially don't set out to, and it's where I have the most fun anyway. And honestly, I am just the worst at being 'serious' or at all straightforward with my writing.

    So, no, I can't write something that will genuinely thrill you, horrify you, romance you, keep you enthralled with blistering action sequences, sci-fi inventiveness, fantastical worldbuilding...I can't do any of that for the most part. But, I can be silly...that I can do.

    Anyway, wondering if anyone else out there finds themselves in the same boat.
    I take it you don't write explicit sex scenes, then. :(

    I don't have that problem when writing; I can become completely immersed in the story BUT - I would feel very stupid if I tried to dictate it either into a machine or to a person. That I know I would never be able to do.


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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #8 on: March 03, 2018, 08:22:30 am »
    You can write in genre and have a wry take and a humorous voice. Including in explicit sex scenes. I should know. And romantic comedy is extremely popular. But sounds like you go further than that. Maybe read some Carl Hiaasen? He seems to have done all right in humorous crime fiction.

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 08:41:00 am »
    Having a gift for humor is a good thing. If you can learn to use it sparingly, any suspense story you feel like writing will work that much better for having humorous offsets. Use it for effect. I've been doing it for years.

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #10 on: March 03, 2018, 09:03:55 am »
    Watching Netflix the other night--a good show and one I was into--yet my mind kept drifting back to a scene I'd revised earlier. One where my goal had been to amp the tension and suspense, make all the werdz tighter and more lean. My brain fixed on one particular line of dialogue I knew was out of place. Had to go back and look at it before I went to bed. Why? I really liked the line. It had made me smile while I was writing. Fun in all the ways I like fun. The line was not, however, anything my manly-man-uber-guy character would ever say.

    As a result, that sentence had to die because it failed in the job at hand, which was to AMP the tension and suspense. Had it been a moment of humor to provide contrast in a dark or suspenseful scene, it might have worked nicely (and if voiced by a more appropriate character).

    If you keep going to humor, does that humor serve and support the narrative drive of the story? Or does it undercut narrative drive? Because narrative drive is what sells books.

    FYI:  there's a montage of scenes in one of the later episodes of the first season of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (on Amazon Prime) where the main character revises the order and delivery of her 'tight ten' minutes of standup, each time seeking the bigger laugh, a more effective structure.



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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #11 on: March 03, 2018, 09:58:08 am »
    That's one reason why I like writing cozy mysteries. Humor is allowed there!


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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #12 on: March 03, 2018, 11:00:34 am »
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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #13 on: March 03, 2018, 11:17:29 am »
    Go with what you're good at. I started out trying to write a serious paranormal romance, but I realized my writing style and characters don't really mesh with that audience. Finding my voice as a writer has been a difficult process, but I think finally I'm hitting the right notes with over-the-top, darkly funny urban fantasy. Judging from your posts on K-Boards, OP, I think you can knock comedy out of the park.

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #14 on: March 03, 2018, 01:38:41 pm »
    Yep. I mostly write and ghostwrite nonfiction business books and my smart mouth interferes constantly. Finally decided to write fiction (under a pen name, of course -- can't let the clients know how warped I am).
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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #15 on: March 04, 2018, 06:29:19 am »
    In all the years I've been writing fiction, I think I've sold two or three serious pieces and everything else has been comedy. I can't help it, I start writing something, I see the funny side, and that's that. Another one lost to the giggle brigade.

    Just remind yourself that writing a good novel or short story PLUS writing a genuinely funny comedy ratchets the difficulty level to eleventy-hundred. You have to love a challenge to take that on.

    By the way, readers will put up with bad writing, stale plots, cardboard characters and turgid dialogue, but NOTHING will earn you more 1-star reviews than a funny novel that falls flat.

    And, to add to the challenge, there seem to be as many different tastes in humour as there are categories of porn. So, you have one person saying Funniest Evah, and someone else who claims they couldn't read past the second page. At least they average out to a 3 ...

     

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #16 on: March 04, 2018, 06:34:38 am »
    I take it you don't write explicit sex scenes, then. :(

    Yeah, I'd love to get advice on THAT. I mean, what kind of cover do you put on a funny erotic novel? Your traditional beefcake shot doesn't say witty and light-hearted humour, it says 'Ugg want woman now'. Putting a naughty cartoon on the thing might get your novel filed under the children's section. Showing random bits of bondage gear might work if you go small and surround it with 'FUNNY' and 'LAUGHS' in huge fonts - but small and erotica never go together, do they?

     

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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #17 on: March 04, 2018, 07:23:48 am »
    Yeah, I'd love to get advice on THAT. I mean, what kind of cover do you put on a funny erotic novel? Your traditional beefcake shot doesn't say witty and light-hearted humour, it says 'Ugg want woman now'. Putting a naughty cartoon on the thing might get your novel filed under the children's section. Showing random bits of bondage gear might work if you go small and surround it with 'FUNNY' and 'LAUGHS' in huge fonts - but small and erotica never go together, do they?


    Look at Wallbanger, or Lauren Blakeleys books like Big Rock. They are not erotica. They are humorous steamy romance.
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    Re: I can't keep a straight face in my writing...
    « Reply #18 on: March 04, 2018, 08:49:29 am »
    I originally read the OP as referring to his own facial expressions. My husband tells me he can tell when my character is angry, or sad, or happy, simply by watching my face as my fingers tap away on the keyboard.
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