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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 03:39:20 pm »
    I'm in a local writing group and we have a thread for the day's goals. The people who post early in the day are the full-time authors who earn a living at it. The people who post the latest in the day sound like they need a hug or something before they've even started. I know correlation is not causality, but there's a relationship there for sure!!

    My structure is I go to the same coffee shop every morning, and I usually am writing by 9am. The rest of the day is more flexible, but I need to get that daily chunk. What's interesting is it's not the optimal time for my mind. I'm much better at hitting a flow state right around sundown, but I can't live my life that way.
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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 03:57:24 pm »
    Lately, I have been not doing any work for 3 or 4 months at a time then banging out a novel over 3-4 weeks, during which I have little social life. Once its released, its back to no work for another 3-4 months. It would probably take me longer to kick me into gear if readers didnt pressure me so much. :P :P

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 04:44:43 pm »
    What life?
    Writing is my life, and it pays all my expenses. Most days, I write first. As soon as I have my coffee, I'm writing or editing. I like to put in three hours before I do anything else. I fit in other business tasks, lunch, a walk, and work again later. If I have an off morning, I study related books. Examining what's selling usually kicks me into gear.

    Whatever time of day works for you, make it a habit.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 06:29:16 pm »
    I tend to write in phases. For my first published series, I went a long time between releases (I worked on the series from 2012 to January 2017 for a five-book series). That was detrimental to the series for obvious reasons, but I couldn't help it. I was also working a full-time job, trying to manage a business (separately from the FT job and novel-writing), and suffering from severe health issues. Hence, I'd go months without writing a word, and then bang a book out within the span of a few weeks when I had the time. I then quit the FT job, healed from the health issues, and downsized the business (I'm a landlord, so I sold my most troublesome property). Now I can focus on writing. Since starting The Six Elements series in September 2017, I've written 640,000 words over the span of four published books and a WIP.

    This usually entails getting up anywhere from noon to one, setting up my computer (pulling up maps, timelines, spell translations and other story aids), and writing/editing/researching/planning until I go to bed at 4-6 in the morning. I only take breaks for the things I can't live without (food/hygiene). Thankfully, my husband cooks. I turn off the phone and stop answering emails. Writing rules my life when I'm in the mood to do it, and I haven't been out of the mood since mid-last year. Once this series is complete sometime this year, I hope to take a few months worth of a break. I don't feel like I need one, but I have other things I want to do that I've been neglecting. There are friends wondering where the heck I am and tons of video games I haven't had the chance to play.  ;D

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #5 on: April 21, 2018, 08:06:35 pm »
    We have three small children, and at times I beat myself up for not having put more material out there at the rate I have, since I started self-publishing back in 2012. It's all discipline, after all. I used to do 5k a day, and my longest track was 30k in one sitting. The past few years it's been harder, and my output hasn't been as high. But then I remember I somehow fit in publishing three novels around this, which is a record of oddities our home has recorded the past three years:

    1) Welcoming two more daughters into the world, one of which followed a high-risk pregnancy.
    2) Losing my brother at age 35.
    3) A nearly-debilitating health condition that required me to lie on my side for several months.
    4) A full-time day gig in Sys Admin/DBA.
    5) The onset of stress-related atrial fibrilation.
    6) The need to repipe our entire house and gut the downstairs, one project being preventative, the other project being reactive to a flooded dishwasher.
    7) A health scare in which I really thought I was getting ALS (yeah, it's different from #3).
    8 ) An invasion by bird mites.

    So in a nutshell, structuring my writing follows this One Neat Trick (in the parlance of every other spam add on the internet): I accept that writing must happen amidst, and even feed off of, chaos. As chaos is something I abhor and yet has inter-threaded itself into my life, I have decided to accept its presence, and even harness it as subject matter for my next book. They say "write what you know" after all. That's point number two, by the way. Try incorporating your own experiences or interests, and watch the words flow.
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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #6 on: April 21, 2018, 11:13:55 pm »
    When I started writing 40 years ago, I had small children and had to write in the evenings. But I would get so caught up in the story, I never wanted to leave it to go to bed and I ended up making myself ill. Once the kids were at school, I would write all day (these were the days of typewriters and carbon paper). Now I have the time but not the energy.

    I don't have to sacrifice anything else to write because I don't want to do anything but write. When I had dogs, I would walk them first, then get down to writing, so the fur, slobber and mud stayed where it was! Now I only have cats, I cannot walk or stand without severe pain so have a cleaner, once a fortnight, but I usually write a couple of thousand words first thing. I try to do another 1000 later on in the morning, but it doesn't always work.

    Today, I am supposed to be going out with a friend but I would much rather stay home and add a couple of thousand more words to my latest novel.  :'(


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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #7 on: April 21, 2018, 11:35:44 pm »
    Writing full time at the moment. I usually procrastinate until about 6 or 7pm, then write until 2 or 3am.  I'm knocking out roughly 2500 words per day when I'm not plotting, organising covers or doing promo stuff. To be honest, I really enjoy wearing both hats, but writing is by far the harder of the two.
     

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 12:06:36 am »
    Due to various factors, I work part time. I am also a night owl, from working graveyard shift for almost 20 years.

    I write at night. Quiet time, just me and my radio and laptop.

    I don't go out and party that much anymore. Sort of bored with it. So my 'social' life has been reduced to creating imaginary social lives via the keyboard.

    At times the things I observe at the pubs become mangled out into various scenarios in fiction.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2018, 12:54:42 am »
    I work part-time at a day job I've been doing for almost 30 years. It can be quite demanding in terms of using the rational, logical side of my brain at times, but it is rarely creative. I've also served on various local committees which sometimes take up almost none of my time and sometimes far too much of it. I am in the second type of situation at present, which has unfortunately slowed down my writing since around Christmas, although I also had to do more research than usual before starting my next book.
    In more normal times I write more on the 3.5 days when I'm not at my day job - when writing a first draft I tend to write about 1,000 words in the morning and 1,000 in the afternoon. On work days it's about 500 at lunchtime and 500 after work. Actually these word counts are limited by the need to think about where I'm going next as well as not having time to do more.
    I don't do much around the house or garden, but this isn't just because of my writing, as I have quite bad arthritis. I don't socialise much - I get more than enough human interaction at work and committee meetings! - and only family and very close friends are allowed to come to the house!

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2018, 04:46:16 am »
    I write much better in the morning, so I've started scheduling nothing outside the home before noon on Monday through Friday. I get up, accede to the cats' demands, make breakfast, then start writing.

    My goal is to edit the previous two days' chapters and write one chapter (about 1,200 words) per day. That can take anywhere between two and four hours, after which, I take a walk to plot through the next day's chapter in my head...and am technically done for the day before lunch.

    Marketing and publishing sometimes get their own week and sometimes are slid into gaps in the afternoon. I've also started to take at least one or two afternoons per week for "research" --- aka fun stuff that feeds my fiction. Last week, it was an archery workshop!










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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #11 on: April 22, 2018, 05:40:27 am »
    Right now, my life is in complete chaos due to various responsibilities and some medical issues my mother is having.  My 'writing schedule' is to fight like a tiger through a mountain of chores and errands until I've freed up an hour or two in my day.  Then, since the weather's so nice, I take my Alphasmart to the local park and type in the fresh air.  Have been averaging around 2k words a day, most days of the week.  I really hope things will settle down in a month or two.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #12 on: April 22, 2018, 06:07:54 am »
    Lately, I have been not doing any work for 3 or 4 months at a time then banging out a novel over 3-4 weeks, during which I have little social life. Once its released, its back to no work for another 3-4 months.

    This describes my process, too. The numbers are slightly different; I usually take eight to ten weeks off between books rather than three to four months.

    For me, volume isn't as important as setting up marketing systems that generate ongoing sales.
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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #13 on: April 22, 2018, 06:52:08 am »
    Gee, I had no idea I had anything in common with Cormac McCarthy, but, like him, I get up at 5 every morning. Started doing this a couple of years ago when I realized 6 wasn't early enough. Sometimes I get up earlier. I meditate, then I write. I don't finish until I at least hit my word-count quota, which, for the book I'm currently writing, is 3K/day. I'm a freelance copy editor and I work at home, so I can push my freelance work to later and later in the day in order to get my writing finished. Every once in a while I'll have a copyedit that's much more time-consuming than it seemed like it would be. Then I might have a day when I don't write until after I'm finished my other work.

    I do take days off, but not too many of them.

    I like writing in the morning, but if for some reason it doesn't happen, then I write later in the day. Doesn't really matter. Just get it done. That's what I tell myself. Now. After years of not getting it done. My current system is far superior. I've written 14 books in the last 3 years and looking forward to the day when I can write full-time.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #14 on: April 22, 2018, 08:08:50 am »
    First thing in the morning, starting perhaps 6, maybe as late as 7:30. I either write or revise. Done with that and admin by noon. I might only take a day off per month. I published three titles so far this year, six last year, and seven the year before.

    That said, I'm in the middle of a move across country and house-hunting and very much have a torn up life, so for the first time in over two years, I'm not writing every morning. Sometimes, major life changes like a major move, the last illness of an elderly parent, or a divorce happen. Minor life stuff I shove aside to deal with in afternoons. It's important to me, as well as being my only source of income, so I make writing my priority.
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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #15 on: April 22, 2018, 08:26:37 am »
    My golden time has always been late afternoon. I have a part time job working form home. I do that in the morning and write in the afternoons every weekday. Weekends are for catchup around the house. Sometimes I'll write on a rainy Sunday after noon.

    When my brother put an office in his house (he's a CPA), he used to go get coffee every morning. That was his "commute". When he got back it was time to work. Sometimes a transition like that is what you need. I will usually do gardening, or something as my transition from my job to my writing. Anything that gets me up from the desk to come back with a clear mind.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #16 on: April 22, 2018, 08:31:19 am »
    My first novel was written on 15 min lunch breaks during shifts as an ER RN and after I got home at 2am-5am. Lol, I look back on that and wonder what the heck I was running on, must have been pure adrenalin, since I was in grad school too.

    Since I've been at this full time, I've definitely realized the value of maintaining some sort of schedule. I write as soon as I get up. I wake up anywhere from 3am to 6am and I don't use an alarm clock. I shuffle in other writing business throughout the day, but the bulk of it I spend writing.

    I treat my work time as if I was in an office somewhere and unavailable; when you work from home, people in your life tend to think your time is always available. If you treat your writing time as if it is negotiable, it will become that. I make it clear that when I'm in the cave, I'm in the cave, and everything that is not emergent will wait.

    Whatever time I wake up, I work until about 5pm. By 3 pm I'm cutting out the coffee and by 4pm I have a glass of wine and go over my work for the day. By that time, I'm ready to cook dinner or go out to the local club. Weekends I usually work a few hours in the morning until my family wakes up, and then I spend the rest of the day with them. Sticking to writing every day keeps me focused; I very rarely go a day without writing something. Fortunately, my family is supportive and they are fine when I'm locked up in the cave. I know I am lucky to have that.
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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #17 on: April 22, 2018, 09:49:38 am »
    Love threads like these, it helps me find motivation & structure!

    I consider myself a hobby-writer in that while I make some income from it, it barely pays for itself, at least not yet:). Still in my 50s I have already retired twice from positions that provide some financial security to now write full time, or more precisely to write as much as I want when I want.

    I work full time in the winter (early Nov to mid April) as a ski instructor in the high Rocky Mountains. During that time I do almost zero writing but a lot of thinking about writing and what story I might want to tell next or where the next book in a series should go etc.

    The hard part for me come April is transitioning from a very physically demanding position spent around a lot of energetic happy people on holiday to a rather solitary pursuit of writing. Just as I have to get in shape in the fall for skiing its the same with writing in the spring as I start off slowly.

    I rise early, around 530 am and have coffee and a bite to eat with the dogs, watch/read the news, get the kids up and take them to school. I then go straight to the gym, arriving around 8am and work out for about 90 minutes followed by a relaxing sauna or steam.  I leave the gym energized and ready to startthe day around 10am go home make a proper breakfast then I sit down at my computer and write until about 3pm with a few breaks during that 3-4 hour time period wher I will get up and walk around the neighborhood or a path along the mountain I live at the bottom of.

    Then the rest of the day is spent picking up kids taking them to their events sometimes cooking dinner or starting it for my wife who works full time. I will rarely write in the evenings, although if Im on a roll I will.

    Generally when I get into my groove I do a min of 2K words a day although I have banged out as many as 10K. For some reason that time between 10 & 2 or 3pm is my most productive.

    Recently I have also found, for some reason if I go to a coffee shop (several really nice independent ones around where I live) I tend to get more focused and am faster there something about working around people or the environment, or the fact that I put on ear phones (something I dont do in my home office) that seems to put my mind in a different, more efficient writing place.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #18 on: April 22, 2018, 12:06:14 pm »
    My writing process has had to evolve over the years to my schedule. When I was working full-time I would write late at night. When I was working part-time, I would write in the morning. This worked a lot better because I found writing when I was still groggy stopped me from second-guessing every single sentence and I went into auto-pilot mode as I sipped more morning coffee. Nowadays I like to ease into my day. I really liked 'The Morning Miracle' and the advice it gave. So I follow that pretty closely. I try to write after my coffee these days after some stretching, meditation, and journaling. I aim for 2k words at a minimum. I've found that writing more than 3-4k a day (once wrote 10k) not only burns me out faster but causes me to produce garbage. I have to take it day by day and not let myself write too much. 2-3k is my sweet spot. I also work from home for my day job, so I can afford to take set aside two hours in the morning to write.

    There's definitely a discipline aspect to it though. I have to force my butt into that chair or sometimes I'll light a candle and write from bed because nice big fluffy pillows. Brain.fm is great for focus too.

    I fear what my writing will be like once the hubbie and I start having kids. I imagine productivity levels will decline dramatically.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #19 on: April 22, 2018, 09:15:43 pm »
    @kw3000, why?

    Why do you want to structure your day? I see you have written books, so writing isn't the problem. Right? Are you looking for more productivity? Or were you just curious about the work habits of others?

    My own habits are a bit erratic. When I was working, I grabbed writing opportunities whenever and wherever I could. Having grabbed them, I not infrequently wasted them, but the issue was not (I realize now) whether I spent two hours browsing the Net instead of writing; the issue was that I kept doing "writing" every day. Some productive, some wasted, but I stayed at it for long enough (a few years) that writing became a habit. I still hadn't written a novel, but I had written. I did manage to write a novelette and a short story in that time.

    Then I retired. Went immediately into Camp Nano. When I came out the other end, my wife pointed out that this didn't exactly look like retirement. My current practice is around three hours of writing time, five days a week. I wouldn't mind doing more, but arthritis says no. "Writing time" includes research, marketing, editing, etc. I also usually take an hour or so at night to do the social media stuff. I try to keep that separate from writing time.

    It took me close to ten years to write the first novel. It has taken me seven months to write the second. I'll have a third out by the end of this year. I haven't learned to write faster, but I have learned to be more disciplined and to use my writing time more efficiently.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #20 on: April 23, 2018, 05:27:26 am »
    I'm very insecure when writing around people. Because of this, I try to grab moments when I have the house to myself (few and far moments!), hurrying home from the job site to grab an hour or two. Since I run my own business, this isn't something I get to indulge in very often. So, I find I do a lot of dictation with my phone on my lunch hour or between appointments. Then I get home and paste it into my work in progress and clean it up. If I can stay awake, I write at night after my hubby goes to bed. Someday I'll have an office that is closed off from the rest of the house where I can work uninterrupted, to my heart's content!
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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #21 on: April 24, 2018, 01:44:27 pm »
    I have two set days, 2-3 hours each day in the evening, where my family knows those are my writing days. We try our hardest to not make plans those evenings. Would I like more than that? Absolutely, but writing doesn't pay all our bills yet and I have a 45-50 hour a week job.

    Also, when we don't have plans, my wife knows when I ask "Are you going to watch something?" that means if she says yes, I'm bailing to go get some extra writing time. If she suggests something else for us to do, then spending time with family is more important.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #22 on: April 24, 2018, 02:05:59 pm »
    Prioritizing what's important, really. And that'll vary person to person. Once upon a time, I watched a lot of tv and played a lot of video games, and wrote a little. Started focusing more on writing, and that means letting go of things that weren't as important. So I write first, then a little tv or games. Family first, day job, volunteer activities, etc. But prioritizing the things I wanted more was the key for me.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #23 on: April 24, 2018, 05:04:35 pm »
    I work a pretty normal schedule, 10ish-7ish, Monday to Friday. I'm trying to get better at not doing any work at other times (not even looking at emails or Kboards). Some days I'm better and some days I'm worse. I find I'm more productive when I'm strict about taking time off because I'm more refreshed.

    I could be a lot more focused during the work day but there are so many non writing things to do. Ads, images, covers, blurbs, mailing list, talking to fans on social media. I probably need a new system because my current one--an hour or two of non writing tasks then writing during the rest of the day--isn't working.

    I'd like to start working fewer hours and doing more with my free time but it's a process.

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    Re: How do you structure your life around writing?
    « Reply #24 on: April 25, 2018, 12:42:28 am »
    It's all about figuring out your own challenges and piecing out what you can do! I combat a lot of physical limitations (I lay down for 90-95% of my day from a faulty back ), so I've learned how draw from my deck:

    1) Usually in the morning or late I feel best, so that's when I put in my writing time. If I can type, I usually do if my throat is sore from dictating. If my fingers hurt too much from typing, I dictate. I do this until I can't go any longer due to pain. (So sometimes it's 1k a day, others it's up to 6k)
    3) If I'm in too much pain regardless (pain makes writing hard for me), I start plotting and brainstorming for my next series or making book covers. I haven't been able to write as much in the past week, but I got some great ideas brewing!
    3) If I feel too bad to even brainstorm, I listen to a lot of podcasts and learn about self-publishing for ideas.

    When I'm working for a client on the computer, I can be listening to podcasts or Booktube for ideas from readers and writers :) It's taken me some time to figure this out (more than 2 years since the onset of my challenges), but you can probably swap out "pain" for "X" and see how to get things done. Maybe you can dictate in the car or educate yourself. Maybe you can pace around the house for exercise or dusting and write a book (Dragon Naturally has a phone app that works pretty good with Wifi).

    Just think of ALL the things we writers need to do, and have them ready to whip out. When I figured out how many things we do as self-publishers, it made me never feel down about not meeting a self-imposed goal. Always be ready to learn, grow, and adapt. That way you are investing in yourself :)

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