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I didn't see this posted anywhere here yet.

https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202018960

"To provide an optimal customer experience, bonus content should make up no more than around 10% of your book."

Also prohibits gifts/rewards.

Now, to see if this is enforced...
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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 04:51:48 pm »
    Better late than never!

    I suspect that enforcement of this rule, like so many rules on Amazon, may be an on-again, off-again kind of thing, but I'm at the point where I think increasing the risk factor for potential bad actors is better than nothing. At least now, there's a clearer standard that could be enforced.
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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 05:00:08 pm »
    10% - that's clear. Let's see what the stuffers do now...

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 05:00:32 pm »
    I didn't see this posted anywhere here yet.

    https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202018960

    "To provide an optimal customer experience, bonus content should make up no more than around 10% of your book."

    Also prohibits gifts/rewards.

    Now, to see if this is enforced...

    That's a reasonable percentage. Though I doubt it's the case, it would be nice if was retroactive as well. There are enough stuffed books on Amazon to fill reading appetites for the next decade.


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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 05:05:53 pm »
    Anyone want to bet on how long until we get the "but what if you're hopping on one foot" response?

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #5 on: June 01, 2018, 05:12:27 pm »
    I don't consent
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    I did not & do not agree to the new TOS that I had no chance to agree to or deny.
    I've requested removal to Admin 18th Sept 2018 & by email to [email protected] 19th Sept 2018

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #6 on: June 01, 2018, 05:13:20 pm »
    Anyone want to bet on how long until we get the "but what if you're hopping on one foot" response?
    I thought they'd moved on to jewelry now...

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #7 on: June 01, 2018, 05:20:18 pm »
    Anyone want to bet on how long until we get the "but what if you're hopping on one foot" response?
    "That only applies to bonus content. These 7 extra novels are 'special content,' totally different."

     Or maybe some kind of special math where 10% can be bigger than 100%.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #8 on: June 01, 2018, 05:24:16 pm »
    My guess is they'll move into sexy aliens in space-opera with ghostwriters doing the heavy lifting. Alien cuisine recipes at the back so you can make it yourself at home.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #9 on: June 01, 2018, 05:24:54 pm »
    I thought they'd moved on to jewelry now...
    LOL!!! Diamonds!!!

    10% - that's clear. Let's see what the stuffers do now...

     This also includes disruptive or unnecessary enticement to click on elements within TOCs. Continued addition of these types of elements in your titles could affect your account status, up to and including termination.

    Of course, this all depends on Amazon's interpretation and enforcement. Anyone want to lay odds that someone who innocently includes a first chapter of a new book gets slammed while a stuffer figures out a way to game the system to the tune of 2K pages per novella?
    This post remains on KBoards over my objections.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #10 on: June 01, 2018, 05:25:48 pm »
    My guess is they'll move into sexy aliens in space-opera with ghostwriters doing the heavy lifting. Alien cuisine recipes at the back so you can make it yourself at home.

    Oh, that's rich! Kudos!!!
    This post remains on KBoards over my objections.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #11 on: June 01, 2018, 05:30:41 pm »
    But seriously... I'd say there will be a bucket load of boxsets and anthologies so they can wring every last penny out of page reads before they're done.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #12 on: June 01, 2018, 05:32:35 pm »
    But seriously... I'd say there will be a bucket load of boxsets and anthologies so they can wring every last penny out of page reads before they're done.

    If they box six stories, can those same six stories appear in other box sets?


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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #13 on: June 01, 2018, 05:35:06 pm »
    In all seriousness, a policy is only as good as its enforcement. Unless Amazon enforces this, people will continue to use bonus books.

    I really hope they do enforce it. I'd love to look at the top 100 in romance and see nothing that's stuffed. But I'm not holding my breath.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #14 on: June 01, 2018, 05:35:23 pm »
    I wonder if books with be grandfathered. I'm currently reading a book where the actual novel is 50% of the experience, and the other 50% is short stories by the various authors and the last 30 or so percent is a "making of" the book.
     

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #15 on: June 01, 2018, 05:42:16 pm »
    Whether you like this change or not, at least we can all agree that some actual, non-vague guidelines about it are nice to have.


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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #16 on: June 01, 2018, 05:44:16 pm »
    I give it a day before the first post either defending stuffing, or complaining about how their 2.8KENPC book was taken down, and Amazon won't pay them their money.

    There's got to be thousands of books violating these new guidelines, none of which will likely be affected in any way whatsoever, but I'm sure the algos have changed and now I can look forward to getting even less money, for doing absolutely nothing wrong.

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #17 on: June 01, 2018, 05:56:07 pm »
    .

    There's got to be thousands of books violating these new guidelines, none of which will likely be affected in any way whatsoever,

    Probably not as they published before this clarification, but they'll need steel man bits to continue stuffing now that the rules are clear.

    If Amazon enforces the new limit their $0.99 strategy is toast. Their books are launched with mega ad spends assuming KENP will cover costs.


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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #18 on: June 01, 2018, 06:01:05 pm »
    In all seriousness, a policy is only as good as its enforcement. Unless Amazon enforces this, people will continue to use bonus books.

    Here you go Crystal! So happy to oblige.

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    "Please note that prompt compliance with these new guidelines and policies is required to qualify for programs such as KDP Select All Stars Bonuses for the month of June and future months."

    https://www.kdpcommunity.com/s/article/Updates-to-KDP-Bonus-Content-and-eBook-Metadata-Guidelines?language=en

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    Amazon Limits Bonus Content in Books to No More than 10%
    « Reply #20 on: June 01, 2018, 06:31:25 pm »
    Amazon just updated their TOS with respect to bonus content (emphasis mine):

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    Bonus Content
    If you choose to include bonus content (e.g., other stories, or previews of other books that are not part of your books title), it should be relevant to the customer and should not disrupt the reading experience. To meet these guidelines, we require placing additional content at the end of the book, and listing the bonus content in your book's table of contents.

    To provide an optimal customer experience, bonus content should make up no more than around 10% of your book. If you would like to include multiple stories within your book, consider creating a collection of works. When selecting your books title, always make sure to follow the Metadata Guidelines.

    Primary and bonus content must meet all program guidelines (e.g., bonus content in KDP Select titles must be exclusive). Translated content must be high quality and not machine generated. Disruptive links and promises of gifts or rewards are never allowed.

    For more information, see our content guidelines and Terms and Conditions.

    https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202018960

    Also:

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    Hello,

    To improve the shopping and reading experience for customers, weve updated our Bonus Content and eBook Metadata Guidelines.

    Please ensure that the books youve published comply with the new guidelines. Please note that prompt compliance with these new guidelines and policies is required to qualify for programs such as KDP Select All Stars Bonuses for the month of June and future months.

    Thank you for choosing to publish with Amazon KDP!

    Best Regards,
    The Kindle Direct Publishing Team

    https://www.kdpcommunity.com/s/article/Updates-to-KDP-Bonus-Content-and-eBook-Metadata-Guidelines?language=en
    « Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 06:35:08 pm by X. Aratare »

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #21 on: June 01, 2018, 06:33:01 pm »
    I am curious what enforcement will look like.

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    Re: Amazon Limits Bonus Content in Books to No More than 10%
    « Reply #22 on: June 01, 2018, 06:34:09 pm »
    Yaaaaaassss! Finally, a decisive answer.
             

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #23 on: June 01, 2018, 06:35:35 pm »
    I'm happy that there's an actual rule now instead of the typical Amazon vagueness, along with a timeline for enforcement. Enforcement is the key here, or we're back where we started.

    They even sent an email about this to Marie Force to announce. I'm super curious to see how this will effect all star bonuses in the coming months. Will it change payouts? We'll see!

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    Re: KDP Issues "Bonus Content" Guidelines
    « Reply #24 on: June 01, 2018, 06:42:09 pm »
    Here you go Crystal! So happy to oblige.

    https://www.kdpcommunity.com/s/article/Updates-to-KDP-Bonus-Content-and-eBook-Metadata-Guidelines?language=en

    You do realize that this hasn't happened yet, right? This is a promise to enforce the policy, but until it actually happens, it's just a promise.

    We'll see what happens in late July. I hope KDP holds to this policy change--it would be great for me, personally; I will dance in the streets if bonus books actually disappear--but they don't have the best history of evenly enforcing policies.

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