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Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2010, 08:23:21 am »
Bloody typos! Let's flog them all! That'll teach them to typo when they are not supposed to typo!
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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #26 on: August 07, 2010, 08:25:22 am »
    It is real, but I won't say where from or by who. And no, it wasn't this forum.

    David Dalglish

    I saw it too--not that long ago either. I can't recall where I saw it, but I recognized it immediately when David posted it because I had the same thoughts he did and cringed as a fellow indie author. :(

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #27 on: August 07, 2010, 08:35:40 am »
    My excuse is that my fingers type faster than my brain works *snort* -- That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

    The reason writers are oftentimes blinded to their own typos is that our brains know what the text is supposed to say and it reads it as such...which is why having a couple of good critique partners is a must.

    I tend to be informal on message boards, forums, IMs and email. So, I don't tend to hold typos or punctuation errors against people.


    But David's example was a "what the...." moment for me. lol. That's an author I'd never read--if I knew who it was.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #28 on: August 07, 2010, 08:51:10 am »
    I think it's fair to include everything you've seen from an author (boards included), when you're looking at making a purchase. Minor typos on a forum are to be expected, however, since most of us are here socially.

    I personally avoid authors who can't string a casual sentence together, it's just a reflex. As for spelling errors on the board, there's really no reason for them since there's a built in spell check.


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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #29 on: August 07, 2010, 09:04:43 am »
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will have no regard, forthwith.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #30 on: August 07, 2010, 09:10:08 am »
    I was recently hanging out at a different (non-reading/writing) message board and couldn't take the typos and horrible grammar! The kindleboards  are WAAAY better than most of the internet because at least we all know the difference between their/they're/there and when to use an apostrophe. The occasional typo or lazy typing doesn't bother me that much because overall, this place is far above most of the rest of the Internet. :)


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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #31 on: August 07, 2010, 09:36:54 am »
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will have no regard, forthwith.

    Brilliant.  ;D

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #32 on: August 07, 2010, 10:02:20 am »
    This is a great thread! And I'll admit to being more informal posting than in my books. However, I try (both here and in the books) to offer a sense of writing style and voice. Just because they're reference books doesn't mean they must be dry, creaky dismal reading with dust wafting from virtual pages, LOL! Nope, I want the reader to smile at the fur-kid chasing the water hose, or a kitty with her tail in a twist over not catching that birdy tidbit (is "birdy" a word spell-check would gnosh?).

    So I try to spell and rite the goodest I know...but I also give myself purr-mission to make up words. And to use fragments. For effect. (or affect?).

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    p.s., My fiction WIP includes dog POV...and everyone knows dogs can't spell.  :P

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #33 on: August 07, 2010, 10:25:40 am »
    My own policy is to always write as if the whole world is reading it.  The occasional typo slips by, but I will undoubtedly flagellate myself for the error with a medieval flail, and then weep in the corner until morning comes.  I don't hold other posters up to the same standards, however.  I know that most folks just want to communicate, and so long as their message is intelligible, I try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will have no regard, forthwith.

    Lovely, but in the spirit of the topic, I feel I must point out what I believe to be a very minor grammatical misstep.  While trying to prevent a sentence terminal preposition, it seems you've stranded have no regard without a preposition which would normally connect it to its indirect object (the novels in this case).  If we restructure that portion of the sentence into a more colloquial form, I believe you'd agree that no gentleman of fine upbringing would say, "I have no regard the novels."

    May I recommend as a possible replacement either:
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author for whose novels I will have no regard, forthwith.

    Or conceivably:
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will hold in ill regard, forthwith.

    And since I'm already at it:
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style, a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will hold in ill regard, forthwith.

    Playfully yours, and hopefully without offense, ;)
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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #34 on: August 07, 2010, 10:36:06 am »
    I agree, if I see horrible grammar and misspellings (which is different from typos) I shy away from that author's work.  If they can't get to/too/two correct, I know spell check isn't going to help them.

    A typo or two, not a big deal.  Sentences that you can hardly read?  Sorry, I'll shy away from your book.

    Now, I must say I haven't found a lot of authors who have this trouble here in these forums.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #35 on: August 07, 2010, 12:56:10 pm »
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will have no regard, forthwith.

    I had crespescular on rye for lunch (with a good Chianti, Clari . . .)  ;D

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #36 on: August 07, 2010, 12:58:48 pm »
    My own policy is to always write as if the whole world is reading it.  The occasional typo slips by, but I will undoubtedly flagellate myself for the error with a medieval flail, and then weep in the corner until morning comes.  I don't hold other posters up to the same standards, however.  I know that most folks just want to communicate, and so long as their message is intelligible, I try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Lovely, but in the spirit of the topic, I feel I must point out what I believe to be a very minor grammatical misstep.  While trying to prevent a sentence terminal preposition, it seems you've stranded have no regard without a preposition which would normally connect it to its indirect object (the novels in this case). 

    I was once stranded without a preposition. Luckily, I had taken my Viagra.  ;D

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #37 on: August 07, 2010, 01:39:09 pm »
    I really appreciate all of the thoughtful responses so far. I agree with the general sentiment that the occasional typo is not an issue. The mistakes that really catch my eye though, are specifically those that are in a thread intended to promote that author's work. I'm often blown away thinking it's similar to seeing Coca-Kola on a billboard or Pepsy on a television commercial. Yet, it's worse... since for an author, it CAN predict the quality of their product.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #38 on: August 07, 2010, 01:40:13 pm »
    I'm usually very careful, but due to the informality of this place, and my haste sometimes, I may mispell.  If I'm posting something long, like the things I do for The Nervous Breakdown, I defintely take my time and make sure it's perfect before I upload.  But here, sometimes in the heat of it.  I may suffer from premature epublication  and I might not run spell Czech.  But that's rare.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #39 on: August 07, 2010, 01:50:51 pm »
    I really appreciate all of the thoughtful responses so far. I agree with the general sentiment that the occasional typo is not an issue. The mistakes that really catch my eye though, are specifically those that are in a thread intended to promote that author's work. I'm often blown away thinking it's similar to seeing Coca-Kola on a billboard or Pepsy on a television commercial. Yet, it's worse... since for an author, it CAN predict the quality of their product.

    Now that you mention Coca-cola, that brings to mind the Chinese expression for I'm thirsty, which is wo yao k'ou-k'o le (literally, my mouth needs moisture). For thousands of years the Chinese, when thirsty, have been asking for Coca-cola.  ;D

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #40 on: August 07, 2010, 01:59:47 pm »
    I'm so anal that I can't post anything without going back to modify it. I don't get it, when writers let their bra straps show and don't care that their zippers are open. I'm slowly recovering from my OCD in that respect, but David is right, and I would never look at a book by someone who can't write a literate post.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #41 on: August 07, 2010, 02:01:40 pm »
    An author who cannot compose a correctly written missive with style and a dash of epistolary wisdom and crepuscular decorum is an author the novels of whom I will have no regard, forthwith.

    Your language is too copious for my diminutive comprehension. I would appreciate it if you would elucidate more emphatically in the future. Thank you.

    Nell Gavin

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #42 on: August 07, 2010, 02:03:02 pm »
    Your language is too copious for my diminutive comprehension. I would appreciate it if you would elucidate more emphatically in the future. Thank you.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #43 on: August 07, 2010, 02:03:48 pm »
    David liks purdy big werds.

    Must be hard to read his screen through all the saliva! ;D

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #44 on: August 07, 2010, 03:23:43 pm »
    If you think we make mistakes here, read the comments on YouTube. You will think literacy is dead.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #45 on: August 07, 2010, 03:30:34 pm »
    David liks purdy big werds.

    Did you say purdy? Shades of Desire Under the Elms. (cuss it, I'm gwen to Californeyay!)

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #46 on: August 07, 2010, 03:35:20 pm »
    I think Ed's been into the ale or something. If he's sober...oh, boy  :o

    On topic, I have to agree with those who say this is an informal setting. I know I make mistakes, but if I see something, I'll go back and fix it. I can forgive the occasional typos and grammar errors, if they're few and far between.

    If an author is promoting their work, though, I'm wary too of errors in such posts. I can certainly agree with that sentiment. (and, no, Ed, that sentiment is not settling to the bottom of a lake  ;D )

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #47 on: August 07, 2010, 03:58:29 pm »
    I"m celebrating today the completion of my 16th novel. Ale? I'm into the Milanos.
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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #48 on: August 07, 2010, 04:03:16 pm »
    I can't "not" self-edit anything I write. It just comes automatically. Even when I write a grocery list I make sure it's spelled right.

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    Re: Okay... this has been bugging me.
    « Reply #49 on: August 07, 2010, 04:32:55 pm »
    I'm a writer, not a speller, dammit!  (jk ;) )

     
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