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Re: E-Book loaning
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2010, 08:35:50 am »
so I wont panic if I am lent a book. I have book until i finish it. that is better for slow readers.
another question - for those of us out of WN?
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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #26 on: December 30, 2010, 08:47:30 am »
    so I wont panic if I am lent a book. I have book until i finish it. that is better for slow readers.
    another question - for those of us out of WN?
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    If I had to bet money, I'd say yes, if you don't turn on wireless on your kindle, then you can have it (and have it work) past the 14 days. ePubs do have an "expiration date" where they stop working on the nook (either due to library loan or loan from another nook user). But I doubt kindle files have that (I could be wrong).

    I bet it is similar to when you return an ebook you've bought, for whatever reason. They delete it from your kindle when you turn on wireless, but if you were unscrupulous enough to copy that file to your computer first, then you could put it back on your kindle after they remove it (not recommending it, just saying). Everything so far in my experience with kindle indicates that once a kindle book file works on a certain kindle, it will always work on that kindle. Amazon can remove it, but you can put it back. Again, I could be wrong, and I'm not advocating any kind of theft, just analyzing the book file system.

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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #27 on: December 30, 2010, 08:50:08 am »
    Looks like only one of my books is loanable currently.

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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #28 on: December 30, 2010, 09:21:29 am »
    Hey, take a look at this link....http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_rel_topic?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200549320

    Looks like it is enabled now!!
    I had heard that once you loan a book, you cannot loan again but not sure as the FAQ didn't say anything of that.

    Many thanks for that url. 
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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #29 on: December 30, 2010, 09:26:13 am »
    54 of my about 200 books are loanable, so about 25% for me.
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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #30 on: December 30, 2010, 09:26:32 am »
    I'm looking forward to trying it out. ;D

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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #31 on: December 30, 2010, 09:30:04 am »
    karichelle, you can see if a book is lendable by scrolling down to where the file size and publishers are listed. It will say
    Lending : enabled if it is.
     :)


    Right, that's what I'm saying -- I'm not seeing ANY of that on ANY book, so that makes me wonder if this is a limited rollout.

    ETA: I even looked at Mockingjay, the one they used for their example, and I do not see anything in the publisher's info about it being lendable or not.
    « Last Edit: December 30, 2010, 09:33:42 am by karichelle »

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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #32 on: December 30, 2010, 09:37:49 am »
    Just noticed they made an announcement on their FB page

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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #33 on: December 30, 2010, 09:48:50 am »
    Right, that's what I'm saying -- I'm not seeing ANY of that on ANY book, so that makes me wonder if this is a limited rollout.

    ETA: I even looked at Mockingjay, the one they used for their example, and I do not see anything in the publisher's info about it being lendable or not.

    Karichelle--are you sure you're looking at the Kindle version?  It's there on mine (I added the red text to help identify it):



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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #34 on: December 30, 2010, 10:00:58 am »
    karichelle, you can see if a book is lendable by scrolling down to where the file size and publishers are listed. It will say
    Lending : enabled if it is.
     :)

    I can't find where the file size is. Also I can't find where it says how many pages a book is. How do I find that.
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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #35 on: December 30, 2010, 10:05:45 am »
    Folks. . .I'm going to move and merge this thread with a similar one in Let's Talk Kindle. . .sorry for any confusion. . .don't anyone get splinched!

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #36 on: December 30, 2010, 10:18:59 am »
    Several of my cozy mystery series have lending as well as the Percy Jackson series.  Almost all of my best selling authors do not have lending sadly including John Grisham, Elmore Leonard, Stephen King, Dennis Lehane, JRR Tolkein, Jim Butcher and JD Robb.


    Wow... okay, that's pretty cool. I like the idea that if I like a book, I can hand my "copy" to someone else, but still only one person at a time can view it... very similar to traditional books.

    That's the common problem I hear with Kindle: "If I buy I paper book, I can let my friends read a book i like. Why can't I let them read my ebooks?"

    Well... it appears that now they can. No more excuses to NOT buy a kindle. =)

    Sadly, a book can only be loaned once.

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #37 on: December 30, 2010, 10:19:49 am »
    Yes, I was looking at the Kindle version. It is there now but wasn't earlier. I'm sure they have a great many servers so I guess it wasn't quite all the way "out" yet. Looks like most of mine aren't loanable and the two I most want to read aren't either. :(

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #38 on: December 30, 2010, 10:21:32 am »
    Re: end of lending period. . .we'll know in about 2 weeks if the books have an automatic 'self destruct'. ::)

    Note that lending is NOT available to or from folks not in the US. . . .
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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #39 on: December 30, 2010, 10:40:38 am »
    For those of us who self-publish with the 70% royalty option, lending is automatically enabled.

    You can disable it, but that's another trigger that'll put you down into the 35% royalty.

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #40 on: December 30, 2010, 11:01:24 am »
    so I wont panic if I am lent a book. I have book until i finish it. that is better for slow readers.
    The lent book expires in 14 days, according to the Amazon information.  This probably works just like library expiration dates did, for Mobipocket books.  I wonder if changing the date to something earlier would prevent expiration?

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #41 on: December 30, 2010, 11:04:20 am »
    If the person being lent to does not accept within 7 days, the book reverts to the lender, if I read correctly.

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #42 on: December 30, 2010, 11:18:53 am »
    It looks like about 20% of my books are loanable. It also appears that the Kindle books that were reasonably priced in the first place (like the older Nora Roberts and the Jaine Austen mystery series) are loanable but the newer books aren't (newer Nora Roberts and the books by Lisa Quinn, Lisa Kleypas, and Susan Elizabeth Phillips that are priced as high or higher than the paperback). There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason determining which books in my Kindle cookbook collection are loanable.

    I think one way this might make sense is if we could find people to pair up with who read similar books (for me it would be a fellow romance reader and maybe also a person who loves cookbooks) and then just find the books on each other's list we'd like to loan each other.

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #43 on: December 30, 2010, 11:26:54 am »
    I don't think it's full implemented yet. I'm holding out hope that the publishers will allow Amazon users to borrow/lend the same books that B&N users can.

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #44 on: December 30, 2010, 11:28:57 am »
    I was surprised that one of my favorite authors Augusten Burroughs is lendable. :D

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    « Reply #45 on: December 30, 2010, 11:40:04 am »
    So...when you say you can only lend a book once, do you mean at all or only once per person?  Like which is true: Case 1 - Joe can lend Book A to Jill and when the two weeks are up he can lend same Book A to Jack but he can't lend Book A to Jill a second time.  Or Case 2 - Joe can lend Book A to Jill and then Book A is locked and can never be lent to anyone again. 

    I thought with the nook, you could lend a book as many times as you wanted just never to the same person twice, or am I mistaken about that?  Guess I just assumed the Kindle would work the same way.  Anyone know?  I didn't see this referenced in the FAQs.
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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #46 on: December 30, 2010, 11:44:47 am »
    Based on what Amazon's page says, and also if Amazon is following the Nook model, the book is loanable once, period.  So pick the person you loan it to carefully.  ;)

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    Re: E-Book loaning
    « Reply #47 on: December 30, 2010, 11:46:54 am »
    I can't find where the file size is. Also I can't find where it says how many pages a book is. How do I find that.
    Thanks

    Amyberta, scroll down to the Product Details on the book's page in the Kindle Store:



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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #48 on: December 30, 2010, 12:33:03 pm »
    Also, on "Manage Your Kindle", if you click the + sign for a book you have bought, if it is lendable, there will be a button for lending the book.

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    Re: Lending Books
    « Reply #49 on: December 30, 2010, 12:53:30 pm »
    Okay, thanks, it took me awhile, but I finally figured it out. ;D

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