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Title: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 08:59:03 am
not large one, as it turns out, but a troublesome one.  Hardest hit, is my typing speed, which is a fraction of what it used to be.  Every sentence is labored.  I'm looking for something to speed things up, like Dragon Naturally Speaking, for example.  It would be ideal to find a tying program that typed the correct word, so that "wuz" is always "was," as you type along.  I doubt that I will find such a program, which leads me back to voice recognition software.  What are your recommendations?
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Jim Johnson on April 21, 2016, 09:01:25 am
Really sorry to hear about the health challenges, Hudson. Best wishes on a speedy recovery.

I don't use it myself (yet) but I've heard a lot of good recommendations for Dragon.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Betsy the Quilter on April 21, 2016, 09:01:59 am
Hudson, so sorry to hear this!   Get better!  *hugs*

Betsy
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Shelley K on April 21, 2016, 09:02:58 am
Dragon's the best voice-rec software. Take care of yourself!
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 09:09:11 am
Really sorry to hear about the health challenges, Hudson. Best wishes on a speedy recovery.

I don't use it myself (yet) but I've heard a lot of good recommendations for Dragon.

Thanks.

Hudson, so sorry to hear this!   Get better!  *hugs*

Betsy

Thanks.
Dragon's the best voice-rec software. Take care of yourself!

Again, thank you!..
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 09:15:48 am
I'm so sorry. Take care of you, but yes, Dragon is the bomb. It takes some training, but it's worth the commitment.

What is the learning curve?
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: RipleyKing on April 21, 2016, 09:34:49 am
There is no easy way back from a stroke. I'm still struggling with my shortcomings almost two years later, but I look good for my age.  :D

My meds hamper me, at times. The pee pill is the worst. It leaves me . . . slower . . . mistake prone, and on those days not a lot happens. Those little boogers are the most dangerous pills out there today. If they dry you up on the inside, plug you up, if feels as if your kidneys want to explode. I take half of what was prescribed, and occasionally skip a day with the water pill, and managed to find a balance that suits me. Doctor approved changes.

Be careful, don't back away from the hard work, and know that it does get better with time.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Michael W Griffith on April 21, 2016, 09:44:27 am
Best wishes for a speedy recovery. My nephew with ALS uses Dragon and loves it. You're on the right track.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Jennifer Lewis on April 21, 2016, 09:47:15 am
Sorry to hear about your stroke. There's a Facebook group for authors using Dragon that you may want to look at. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1648134245442422/

For myself I find Dragon keeps crashing my computer and I can't be bothered to get to the bottom of that right now. I think there's usually one problem or other that people have to push through to get it to work for them, then most people love it. I think patience and persistence is required so whether you will like it probably depends on how much you have right now.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Monique on April 21, 2016, 09:48:09 am
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Lyndawrites on April 21, 2016, 10:01:24 am
Sorry to hear this, Hudson, and my best wishes for a speedy recovery.

I had a TIA 6 years ago and really struggled to control my hands and fingers when typing. I couldn't afford to go the Dragon route and found that switching to a Dvorak keyboard layout helped tremendously with the pain of typing.

I wrote a post on my experiences for my editor's blog: http://www.pinnacleeditorial.co.uk/2014/08/when-writing-is-a-pain-dvorak-keyboard-layout/

Good luck.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 10:06:32 am
Sorry to hear this, Hudson, and my best wishes for a speedy recovery.

I had a TIA 6 years ago and really struggled to control my hands and fingers when typing. I couldn't afford to go the Dragon route and found that switching to a Dvorak keyboard layout helped tremendously with the pain of typing.

I wrote a post on my experiences for my editor's blog: http://www.pinnacleeditorial.co.uk/2014/08/when-writing-is-a-pain-dvorak-keyboard-layout/

Good luck.


I've never had trouble with the standard Microsoft keyboard, but I know there are better keyboards out there.  Thanks.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Lloyd MacRae on April 21, 2016, 10:14:12 am
Sorry to hear about the stroke, Hudson. I had a massive heart attack in 2012 and can understand the health challenges you are going through. And a car accident decades ago damaged the fine motor skills in my hand and I was never able to manage cursive writing again. (Try writing your school exams when you can only print  ;D)

Dragon had been a tremendous benefit to me from the time it came out. If you buy it, let it feed on all of your writing, your books, your email, any correspondence and it will learn your writing style and even new words. And the program also has a section where you read and it learns how you pronounce words as well. Check out the Nuance website and the videos on how to set it up.

Whatever you do, don't give up.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Nic on April 21, 2016, 10:18:55 am
A speedy recovery! Dragon is the best there is currently. I've found the help forums to be invaluable in how to train the software best to my speech.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Sam Kates on April 21, 2016, 10:50:52 am
Wishing you a full recovery, Hudson.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 11:08:23 am
Sorry to hear about the stroke, Hudson. I had a massive heart attack in 2012 and can understand the health challenges you are going through. And a car accident decades ago damaged the fine motor skills in my hand and I was never able to manage cursive writing again. (Try writing your school exams when you can only print  ;D)

Dragon had been a tremendous benefit to me from the time it came out. If you buy it, let it feed on all of your writing, your books, your email, any correspondence and it will learn your writing style and even new words. And the program also has a section where you read and it learns how you pronounce words as well. Check out the Nuance website and the videos on how to set it up.

Whatever you do, don't give up.

Thank you for your inspirational message, Lloyd MacRea.  I will check out the Nuance website.  Power to you, sir.
A speedy recovery! Dragon is the best there is currently. I've found the help forums to be invaluable in how to train the software best to my speech.

OK, I will check out the forums.

Wishing you a full recovery, Hudson.

Thank you, sir.
 
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Jan Hurst-Nicholson on April 21, 2016, 11:09:41 am
So sorry to hear that. What a nuisance, as my friend said when she had a medical problem. Hope you will soon be picking up your typing speed  :).
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Becca Mills on April 21, 2016, 11:13:49 am
Here's hoping Dragon works great for you ... and that you don't need it for long! Best wishes.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 11:30:23 am
So sorry to hear that. What a nuisance, as my friend said when she had a medical problem. Hope you will soon be picking up your typing speed  :).

Well, I muddle along.

Here's hoping Dragon works great for you ... and that you don't need it for long! Best wishes.

You mean you can outgrow it?

Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: acebookcovers on April 21, 2016, 11:31:13 am
Best wishes and prayers for a speedy recovery.

I had some good experiences with using the Dragon application. So far my typing is faster and more accurate and I don't use it on a regular basis. It is important to be diligent about  training your new pet :) My father used his Dragon software for chatting online and never saved any training. As a result, the program became unreliable and he got frustrated with it.

I think it will be a viable asset to your writing during the rehab period. 
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: jarmzet on April 21, 2016, 11:35:11 am
It would be ideal to find a tying program that typed the correct word, so that "wuz" is always "was," as you type along.  I doubt that I will find such a program

There is software like that that.  I use a really old editor called "EMACS".  It's free and runs basically on any OS.  It has a feature called "abbreviation expansion".  You supply it a list of words and what you want them changed to as you type.  Then, the second you hit the space bar (or a period or a non letter key) as you type, whatever you type is replaced with whatever you specified.

Other text editors have a similar feature.

Here's my list of abbreviations:

https://github.com/greglange/abrn/blob/master/data/abbr.txt

As an example, if I type "i uu abrx wn im typing tgs.", what appears on my screen is "I use abbreviations when I'm typing things."

Learning an abbreviation system like described and using might help somebody in your situation.  It will reduce the number of keystrokes you have to make when writing.

I even use my abbreviations when I'm taking notes on paper.  = )

It's sort of like shorthand that you can use on a keyboard.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Gator on April 21, 2016, 12:00:10 pm
Sorry to hear of this.  Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery!
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Zelah Meyer on April 21, 2016, 12:15:02 pm
Wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

If you have certain words that you always mistype, then you can add them to auto-correct in Word.  Otherwise, Dragon does sound like a good idea.  Good luck.  :)
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: unkownwriter on April 21, 2016, 12:26:23 pm
Adding to all the wishes for a full and speedy recovery, Hudson. From what I understand, Dragon can be a great thing, but you do have to work with it.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Becca Mills on April 21, 2016, 12:31:15 pm
You mean you can outgrow it?

I meant that, hopefully, your typing speed will return as you recover from the stroke. Fingers crossed for a full recovery. :)
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: C. Gockel on April 21, 2016, 12:36:25 pm
I have a Dvorak keypad, too. I have shoulder/arm issues that make my hands shake (or used to). It hasn't come back (knock on wood) since I've had my new keyboard a few years ago. I really like it.

I wish you all the best. I'm glad it was as minor as it was.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Harvey Click on April 21, 2016, 12:40:13 pm
Best wishes for a quick and full recovery.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: My Dog's Servant on April 21, 2016, 12:43:39 pm
Sorry to hear of the stroke. Good luck on a speedy recovery.

Here are links to 2 KB threads on Dragon and other dictation software that I bookmarked. Both have a lot of helpful information about Dragon and alternatives....especially if you have a Mac

https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,228009.0.html

https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,203713.msg2841317.html#msg2841317

There are a number of additional threads on best headsets, mics, whatever

ETA....if there are multiple copies of this post, ignore them. I'm not sure what's happening here....
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: MKK on April 21, 2016, 12:55:17 pm
Adding my best wishes for a quick and full recovery.

Also, what about predictive text s/w...like http://www.sumitsoft.com (not a recommendation, I know nothing about them).
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 01:14:07 pm
Best wishes and prayers for a speedy recovery.

I had some good experiences with using the Dragon application. So far my typing is faster and more accurate and I don't use it on a regular basis. It is important to be diligent about  training your new pet :) My father used his Dragon software for chatting online and never saved any training. As a result, the program became unreliable and he got frustrated with it.

I think it will be a viable asset to your writing during the rehab period. 


Thank you for that.
There is software like that that.  I use a really old editor called "EMACS".  It's free and runs basically on any OS.  It has a feature called "abbreviation expansion".  You supply it a list of words and what you want them changed to as you type.  Then, the second you hit the space bar (or a period or a non letter key) as you type, whatever you type is replaced with whatever you specified.

Other text editors have a similar feature.

Here's my list of abbreviations:

https://github.com/greglange/abrn/blob/master/data/abbr.txt

As an example, if I type "i uu abrx wn im typing tgs.", what appears on my screen is "I use abbreviations when I'm typing things."

Learning an abbreviation system like described and using might help somebody in your situation.  It will reduce the number of keystrokes you have to make when writing.

I even use my abbreviations when I'm taking notes on paper.  = )

It's sort of like shorthand that you can use on a keyboard.

Thank you for this very valuable information

Sorry to hear of this.  Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery!

Thanks!

Wishing you a full and speedy recovery.

If you have certain words that you always mistype, then you can add them to auto-correct in Word.  Otherwise, Dragon does sound like a good idea.  Good luck.  :)

Good.  Thanks.

Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Hudson Owen on April 21, 2016, 01:22:02 pm
Thank you all for your comments.  Some were heartfelt, some were inspirational.  You don't recover from a stroke.  It becomes a permanent feature of your life.  You just pray not to have another one.  And so far, I've been lucky.  May you all be lucky in life!
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: TBD on April 21, 2016, 01:45:40 pm
I've used DNS off and on for about four years. I recently got this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Writers-Guide-Training-Your-Dragon/dp/153015247X

Based on his recommendations, I got a new mic and started a new profile. I now recommend his book and implementing his tweaks for anyone starting with Dragon or looking to improve their Dragon work ;-)
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: LeonardDHilleyII on April 21, 2016, 01:45:55 pm
Best wishes to you! Hope your mojo returns soon.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: UnicornEmily on April 21, 2016, 02:38:54 pm
Ouch!  I'm sorry for your misfortune!

I hope you recover quickly and fully.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Gone Girl on April 21, 2016, 06:13:57 pm
We miss you, Harvey Chute.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Marilyn Peake on April 21, 2016, 06:25:00 pm
I'm so sorry to hear this. It sounds like you have a lot of determination, which can be very helpful. Take care of yourself.  I wish you a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Mafalda Writes on April 21, 2016, 06:57:49 pm
Hudson there is a great facebook group for author who want to or already use Dragon. It is only focused on that and it's quite helpful. it's called Dragon Riders Authors Dictating http://www.facebook.com/groups/1648134245442422/
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: carozy on April 21, 2016, 07:16:51 pm
Sorry to hear of your stroke and wanted to add my best wishes to your health.  I have Dragon and would agree it takes practice.

I also wanted to mention a great documentary called Forks Over Knives which teaches how to prevent/reverse heart disease (and other diseases/high cholesterol/etc.)...not that I know what caused your stroke, but there is good info in that doc and not easily found, so might be worth a look.  I don't mean to over-step, I just know the info is not mainstream, so not easily found or known, but it can be life-changing.

Best wishes.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: RipleyKing on April 21, 2016, 07:37:37 pm
The life-changing affects are always there, but things do get better if you work at it, and hard. I'll never get back my 100%, but I'm shooting for it. Good luck to you too.
Title: Re: I have had a stroke
Post by: Lisa Blackwood on April 21, 2016, 07:54:49 pm
I'm so sorry. Hope you recover quickly and have better days ahead. Hugs.