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Writers' Cafe / Re: trashing what you write
« on: August 30, 2018, 04:43:44 pm »
Complete pantser here.

I used to throw out lots, but for the last 30-odd novels I've learned to spot a useless side-track before I write it by asking myself the most important question: what needs to happen to further the story? If a scene doesn't develop the story, the character arc or add anything that I can build on later, I don't write the scene in the first place. I look at the story so far, and it's pretty clear what needs to happen next. Then I write it. Sometimes the scene takes an unexpected turn. When that happens, I stop to think if it's a turn I can roll with. If not, I nip it in the bud right there.

I throw out very little anymore.

I need to get better at this. Sounds like perfect advice to me.

Writers' Cafe / Re: trashing what you write
« on: August 29, 2018, 04:54:43 pm »
I trashed the first four full length novels I wrote, to include covers!

In material that I've published, I probably trashed a good 50K words out of the first novel and 30K or so from the second, both of which ran between 100 and 110K words in the end. Almost all of the latter was false starts.

I've taken to outlining, but I can only go in broad strokes on that. Specific outlines are impossible for me to follow for some reason. I guess I'm just bad at taking direction ... even my OWN direction.

Thanks much.

The bits about 'don't be a dick' and picking people to learn and grow with are particularly poignant.

The writing group I'm part of all set our goals over two years ago, and we've all come a long way from where we started. I anticipate further successes with them, and I know for a fact that were it not for the people who kept me grounded, I'd be nowhere.

And the cover thing. >.< Yeah. Covers matter.  I've got another series sitting on the shelf that has a cover done, but as I look at it I just know it won't serve, and I'll have to have a new one done. Also having the cover on my book 1 redone, because the feedback was pretty clear on it.

And of course, I'll have to look into advertising. :P

Thanks much, good sir. Valuable information, and an inspiring story!

Writers' Cafe / Re: Thousand Words a Day Club 2018
« on: July 20, 2018, 08:42:39 pm »

Or an author could have a high percentage of 5-Star reviews because most readers loved the book. It could also be that the author sells well because his audience enjoys his stuff.

Quite frankly, this.

I have one book, and with the exception of a single facebook group advert posting, a signal boost on tumblr, and a HAY I PUT A BUK OWT GUYS!1 on a forum of which I'm a long time resident, I did no marketing for it. Quite frankly I expected it to tank because it is - say it with me now - my first book. I just crossed the 30 day mark and with 157 reviews I'm at 84% five star with an overall 4.8 rating. People who aren't into the genre would hate the book I'm sure, but those who are into it are REALLY into it, they know exactly what they like, and that's what I gave them. There's no crime there, and no funny business.

The genre is extremely tight, and I made sure to REALLY HAMMER HOME what that genre was in my title and elsewhere to avoid casual passerby picking up my book and going WTF!?? (Incidentally, my number one critical review came from just such a person, and he readily admits in the body of the review that he should have paid more attention :P )

One of the two authors being discussed to open this thread has similarly high reviews, and having read the vast majority of his work and been a fan of it personally, I can say that - at least in terms of his reviews - I rather suspect he was completely on the level. He just wrote books that his target audience wanted to read, and they really liked them.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Thousand Words a Day Club 2018
« on: July 19, 2018, 08:57:01 pm »

Writers' Cafe / Re: Thousand Words a Day Club 2018
« on: July 18, 2018, 08:33:03 pm »
Hope y'all don't mind a late-comer? If I have the essence of this list right it's simple self-accountability for getting the words down on the daily?

If so I try and hit 3K every day. I'd go for more but, you know. Day job. This will probably help me stay motivated to get the draft finished by month's end.

Just stopped for the evening at 4.4K.

Writers' Cafe / Re: Vellum: the official thread
« on: July 18, 2018, 04:58:10 pm »
I figure most people exploring this thread are doing so to answer some technical question, but for those who haven't heard of the program and are just checking the back to see what people are saying ... I bought a macmini for the express purpose of running Vellum. I HATE mac ... but for this program I put up with it.

I have absolutely no complaints. The preview functionality, the ease of formatting, everything is letter perfect.

Highly recommend it. :)

Writers' Cafe / Re: On the topic of Pen Names
« on: June 28, 2018, 06:12:42 pm »
When a friend beta read my first book, which is pretty sexy, she said, "I'll never be able to look at you the same way again."

If people are going to equate the author with the content of the book, I think it's perfectly understandable that they don't want their co-workers, students, minister, or the people doing security checks to equate the author with the guy in accounting.

This exactly.

Writers' Cafe / Re: On the topic of Pen Names
« on: June 27, 2018, 12:15:25 pm »
My use of a pen name was predicated on the fact that I want to write a variety of things over the course of my career and being eclectic isn't necessarily a blessing when it comes to keeping an audience happy.

It would also be silly to presume the audience of one genre wouldn't judge the audience of another for their tastes. NOT using pen names while diversifying across audiences would be akin to taking a poison pill.

I just have to say, that's an awesome tagline.   ;D


First time poster, and my first book is up on Zon right now. Figured I'd go ahead and sign up here and see if I can keep up with the trends and KU data and all that stuff I never thought about before I put a book up and figured out just how much I need to know that I just, at this point, don't.

Pleasure to meetcha. :)

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