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Quite possibly. Although I have the update on both the Kindles I'm currently using (a Voyage and a PW4) I still have the old syncing dialogue box on both. Perhaps, as you say, when it completes the update the problems will resolve. Fingers crossed .... 

It's weird the way this update is coming out. I have the old syncing dialog box on the Oasis and the new one on the PW. For most books. I think I noticed yesterday that, on one book, when I synced the PW, it was the old dialog. I'll have to pay more attention. But at least it IS syncing in both directions.

Fire Talk / Re: Considering a Fire HD 8 Plus 2020 - have questions
« on: June 04, 2020, 10:02:28 am »
There's another thread with some basic discussion of the new Fire models, HD 8 and HD 8 Plus:,323725.0.html

I have had several Fire models -- still have at least one, in fact, but haven't used it in a while. Honestly, I've not been particularly impressed. For me, Samsung tablets, though a bit more expensive, are way more bang for the buck. My feeling is the Fires are designed to be content consuming devices -- so videos, music, etc. For most, they're probably fine for that, but I need a tablet that can double as an 'everything' computer if I'm traveling. And the Fire just didn't do that well for me. The latest models are very integrated with Alexa, if that's something you want. Again, not a thing I care about particularly.

And ... welcome to KBoards. :)

I did merge crebel's thread as she suggested -- and renamed the whole thing. :)

The weird thing for me is both my PW and Oasis have the same version: 5.12.5. But the menus and syncing dialog boxes are different. It does say "over the next few weeks" so maybe it's just that the changes have pushed to one and not the other.

Linda, I think this 'update' might also be the reason for yours acting weird, too. It's dated April 2020.

I've got an iPad Pro 10.5" that is good so far although no longer current. I'd like to have a bit larger screen although that may not work out. I don't think I'll spend this kind of money next time and will look seriously at the Fire options. Hopefully one will hit the spot.

Keep in mind that moving from an iPad to a Fire means you have to download new apps as the operating systems are different. That's probably not a huge deal for most but I know some people actually spend money on apps (:o)* and they'll have to spend it again if they switch from one to the other. :) Not an issue at all, I'd think, if you're mainly using it for media consumption.

* I kid. I have spent a bit of money on some apps. ::)

The Book Corner / Re: Amazon First Reads -- June 2020
« on: June 03, 2020, 12:26:22 pm »
Well I got "Find me". Started it and am hooked already.

I read Loreth Anne White a while back, which was also a first reads and I loved that one. It kind of reads similar, like the suspense ones from whats her name, ugh, drawing a blank now. Just can't think of the name. ONe of the more well know writers in that genre.

Anyhow, I really like it so far and sucked me right in. So that is good.

Well that's a good recommendation! :D

I've got 4 library books to finish before I can start anything else. ::)

Oh. Was there a new Fire announced? I guess I'm completely out of the loop! :o

Not in the market for a tablet, and haven't been thrilled in general with the Fire line. But I got nothin' better to do, so maybe I'll take a look. ;D

The Fire HD 8 seems to start at $90, but add another $30 for the Amazon case/cover (or $35 if you want a Disney or NatGeo branded one). You can add a memory card.

The Fire HD 8 Plus starts at $110, covers are same, memory card the same (though the product page offers a bigger card as an add on than on the HD 8 page). Has wireless charging and if you want to buy it with the dock included, it's $140. The dock doubles as a display stand.  You can buy it later for $40 so you save $10 buy getting it when you buy the Fire. Reference to "ANGREAT" as the manufacturer -- no idea if that's compatible with Qi, though it says it should charge other devices that have wireless charging capability IF the coils line up.

They have the same processor, though the existing Fire 10 seems to have a better one. The Plus has more Ram than the HD 8. Oh, and they're also both USB-C -- so existing Fire adapters will NOT work.

The Book Corner / Re: Amazon First Reads -- June 2020
« on: June 03, 2020, 03:34:05 am »
I decided to try this one:

Suspense: The Bone Jar

The Book Corner / Amazon First Reads -- June 2020
« on: June 02, 2020, 04:45:04 am »
First reads for June

Crime Thriller: Find Me

Suspense: The Bone Jar

Contemporary Fiction: Someone Else's Secret

Thriller: Never Look Back

Book Club Fiction: The Lending Library

Epic Fantasy: Scarlet Odyssey

Historical Fiction: Opium and Absinthe

Children's Picture book: Kat and Juju

A couple of possibilities here, for a change. (For me, anyway). Epic Fantasy is new! I'll check back in a few days for reviews.

The Book Corner / Re: Amazon First Reads -- May 2020
« on: May 30, 2020, 11:04:14 am »
I'm with you on both counts, Linda!

The Book Corner / Re: Amazon First Reads -- May 2020
« on: May 29, 2020, 12:33:11 pm »
I got a reminder the other day that I hadn't picked one yet. Took a second look, and I think I'm going to pass entirely this month.

The Book Corner / Re: Anyone a Historical Mystery fan?
« on: May 25, 2020, 06:17:50 pm »
I also enjoyed The Richmond Thief. Read it when it was in Prime the first time. Have the second on my Prime/KOLL wish list .. Maybe I'll grab it for my KOLL borrow for June.

The Book Corner / How are you doing on your GR challenge?
« on: May 23, 2020, 01:06:17 pm »
Just saw an update that came across my GR feed that a friend of a friend finished his goal of 75 books already. So I figured I'd check where I stand, just to see.

In 2019 I made my goal 100 books. Which I thought was about right. I think I ended up reading 120 or so. So, for 2020, I figured I should officially up my goal to 110. Not that I am really interested in reading just to see 'how many'. Mostly, I just want to enjoy my leisure time. But it's a thing, so what the heck? :)

Anyway, it's just about the end of May and I've finished 50 books. And there have been at least a half dozen that were DNF.

So, I guess I'm on track. :D  GR says I'm 7 books ahead of the pace.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New Behavior when syncing
« on: May 22, 2020, 06:37:38 am »
The Oasis still has the 'old' way of showing syncing ... or did as of last night before bed.

Checked my Voyage this morning and it had 'update your kindle' available so I did that ... haven't checked further on it yet.

I have not even tried prime reading. Since I have kindles, prime account and KU, I should what, get 21 books total a month checked out at a time? But that wouldn't really be important to me since I can only read one. But I haven't tried getting to the prime reads yet. So if I have 8 KU titles checked out, then I could get one of the prime reads? Are some of those not part of KU? This is really confusing at this point with those 3 different reading programs.
Of course I just brewed my coffee and haven't sipped yet, so my brain is a wee bit foggy still.

I don't have KU. But I am a prime member and as a Kindle owner have access to KOLL. Here's what seems to be the case.

There's a big overlap in between the KU catalog and the KOLL catalog -- it may even be identical. I have a wish list of KOLL books and borrow one a month as I'm allowed. Generally, if they're in KU -- which the product page always clearly shows -- they're also in KOLL. But, of course, I have to actually borrow from the kindle vs on the computer and send to a device. No biggie. :) Once it's borrowed, I can go to the computer, to Content and Devices and send the KOLL borrowed book to my another device. All I have to remember is whether I borrowed one this month already, and to return it the next month to get another. ;D

Books in Prime Reading are often in KU, but not always. As noted above, there are certainly some 'big publisher' name books that are there. The catalog is not static -- titles wander in and out periodically. A Prime member can have 10 borrowed at a time. Also, if you borrow a book and it later goes out of the Prime catalog, it stays in your account/on your devices until you return it. I have some I borrowed a while ago and I'm sure not all are currently available as PR borrows. :o

Based on the brief time I had KU as well, books in PR that are not big publisher titles, tend to be better written, better edited, and just generally better books. They're clearly curated vs the author/publisher can just push a button to be in the program. Many are from Amazon imprints and/or translations done for Amazon. Translations can vary in quality, but most I've read are pretty good. A few have felt somewhat stilted and/or written to a somewhat low reading level; it's hard to know, in those cases, if it's the translator, or the original text.

As KU is the PAID subscription service, I guess it's not too surprising that any borrows are considered done under that program if you have it. As I say, KOLL is, functionally, using exactly the same catalog, and with PR there's a lot of overlap. The more we talk about this the more I think someone made the discovery about KU and KOLL early on -- namely that it's 10 borrows if you have both and not 10 for KU plus one a month for KOLL.

I don't know that we'd looked closely at PR before. I guess I thought it was pretty separate, but at least it's fair that you can still borrow non-KU books that are in the Prime program. You do pay for the Prime membership (as of course you do for KU) but what you get is so much more than just some free borrows each month. Probably for many the 10 borrows is incidental and probably most Prime subscribers don't use 'em. I'm sure most people use the video freebies more than the book freebies.

And, when you think about it, having 10 books borrowed at a time is probably enough for most people. Except, maybe, all of us here. :D

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New Behavior when syncing
« on: May 21, 2020, 12:28:11 pm »
Pretty sure the storage option has been there for some time, but yes, the Aa menu changes are new and they did make changes to the last read. I haven't tested it yet as I only read on my Oasis3 right now, but from what I read, it should let you pick per device on where you are synced. Or somesuch thing.

Hmmm.  I only regularly read on 2 different devices. Maybe I'll see if my spare Voyage is charged up and do some experiments. I'm sure none of my currently reading books are on it so I'd have to download some things to see. :)

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: New Behavior when syncing
« on: May 21, 2020, 05:06:49 am »
After a little more exploration.

The Aa menu also looks a bit different, but doesn't seem to have any new functions. (edit: actually it does, see below)

In settings, I went to Device Options and there are one or two new/changed things in Advanced Options.

One is 'storage management'. Now, possibly this has been there for a while, but I don't recall that we used to be able to remove things en masse. There's an option to manually remove all of any one type of thing and also to archive anything that's not been accessed within a period of time. There are 4 options from 1 month to a year. It also clearly says how much storage is being used vs how much is free.

The Popular Highlights, Book Mentions, and Word Wise are no longer in Reading Options. They're now part of the Aa menu while you have a book open.

FYI, the firmware is 5.12.5

So, I regularly read on a PW kindle but at night I use an Oasis. So I'm syncing to most recent page regularly.

This morning, when I picked up my PW to update it based on my reading before bed last night, instead of the small pop up in the middle, there was a popup at the bottom. I could tap the sentence to go to where I left off -- it gave the specific page -- or tap an X to close the dialog. Once I tapped it to go, it gave me the option to change my mind. There was also a line marking the two 'stops' -- where I left off on the two devices.

Off to play and see what else randomly changed over night. ;) AND to see if the Oasis is doing the same thing -- last night it was still doing it the old way.

Thanks for confirming I'm not going crazy!

I'm also having the same issue with Prime Reading titles.

I currently have borrowed 10 titles under my KU subscription. I have fewer than 10 titles borrowed under the Prime Reading program. However, while browsing the Prime Reading catalog and selecting a new title to borrow, I get the screen showing my KU library and am instructed to return a title in order to borrow what should be a Prime Reading title.

Something's screwy here.

Yeah .... I think Prime Reading and KU are supposed to be separate.

I had KU for a few months and the behavior Atunah describes concerning how it works with KOLL sounds familiar. BUT, I feel like I remember that Prime books were separate -- because it's a smaller curated catalog but not strictly a subset of KU. For example, there's usually one or more of the Harry Potter books available as well as titles by other authors that are "big name" published.

I could be misremembering, though -- as I say, I only had it a few months -- got some free months on a special deal with a new kindle at some point -- and didn't keep it when the subscription was up. Sorry to not be of more help. :(

I recently signed up for a 3-month subscription to Kindle Unlimited on a promotional price. Since signing up for Kindle Unlimited, when I go to my Kindle Owners Lending Library (KOLL) wish list to pick this month's book to borrow, I only get the option to read it for free with Kindle Unlimited. I don't see any way to borrow it for free with KOLL.

Does this mean that if I'm a Kindle Unlimited subscriber, Amazon doesn't allow me to get my monthly book through KOLL?

Or am I doing something wrong, and should access my KOLL book in some special way? I'm trying to do this on my Kindle Paperwhite, which has worked as expected for years. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Note that you will only be able to borrow a KOLL book by accessing from a kindle device. You won't see the option when browsing on a computer, non Amazon tablet, or phone.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Printable Owners Manual
« on: May 17, 2020, 06:09:56 am »
After using our Kindle Touch readers for the last 8 years, they have began to be somewhat flighty.  I ordered a Paperwhite to replace the most used one and received it this week.

I don't do well trying to read instructions on the Kindle and then leaving to see what works.  Is there a printable instruction manual for the PaperWhite?

Go to the product page of the kindle you ordered. Scroll down to the 'technical specifications' section. There is a section called 'documentation' and includes a link to a PDF version of both the Quick Start Guide and the User Guide. These are in English but there are other languages available.

Also, it should be available electronically in your kindle library, assuming you have it registered at Amazon. I get that it's hard to try things while you're reading about the device ON the device. But if you have a tablet you could download the kindle App and then download the manual to the tablet. Or, for that matter, put the PDF on the tablet.

Also, feel free to ask questions here. Many of us have been around since Kindle version 1 in 2008, but also have had many kindles over the years. A lot of us do use the current models and can probably answer any questions you may have.

Hi, I just purchased a brand new Paperwhite. It's my first e-reader and I'm noticing that the bottom third of the screen looks...not necessarily brighter but whiter in tone? I assume this is due to the backlight placement. It's not drastic but it's noticeable enough that halfway through each page I notice the change and it breaks my concentration/focus.

My question is, how common is this and is it something worth exchanging the Kindle for (To try another of the same model) or is it just something I need to get used to? Again, I've never had an e-reader, much less a Kindle, and so I'm not sure what I should be expecting.

Thanks in advance for your replies!

Screens are very subjective. What bothers one might not even be noticed by another. If the one you got doesn't work for you -- people have reported blotchiness, color too blue, color too yellow, color uneven -- contact Kindle Support and ask them to send you a replacement as you believe the one you have is defective.

But there are some things you can try.  Try turning the light off, then back on. Try restarting the device. If it's a temporary glitch, this might fix it. Also, try varying the light setting -- you might be able to find one where you don't really notice it.

Note it's not a 'back light' but lighting at the edges that flows across the screen. If you tilt the thing sideways, you should be able to see where the lights shine from. Check the specs and see how many you're supposed to have and make sure they're all lit.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: Does Kindle charge a conversion fee?
« on: May 15, 2020, 06:27:37 pm »
If my friend send a PDF book to my Kindle email address with the word CONVERT in the Subject line, will Kindle charge me a fee?  And, if so, how much?  THANKS !!!

Note that you have to have your friend's email address -- that they're sending from -- whitelisted in your account or it won't work.

Also not sure about a cost, but there may be a size limit if delivery is via the cell network vs wifi. Which might be something you can change in your account? Like Barry it's been ages since I did any such thing, so don't recall the particulars.

Let's Talk Kindle! / Re: VAT being removed from Ebooks in the UK!
« on: May 02, 2020, 11:07:51 am »
Excellent news for you all! It always did seem a bit weird. I mean ... there's not a whole lot of "value added" with electronic books between the author putting it for sale and it getting to the buyer. Hope you see some REAL price reductions!

The Book Corner / Re: Anyone a Historical Mystery fan?
« on: May 02, 2020, 04:30:51 am »
I finished the latest St. Cyr a week or so ago; still working on the Lady Darby series and not yet caught up ... so I guess that's good for me. Hmmm ... I don't even have it on my master list but I'm sure I've read some. Will have to update! :D

Just came available at the Library: Death in Kew Gardens which features the cook Kat Holloway. Author is Jennifer Ashley -- probably heard about it here. I think it's listed as the "Below Stairs" mysteries. Completely enjoyable.

The Book Corner / Re: Amazon First Reads -- May 2020
« on: May 01, 2020, 09:02:13 am »
A couple of different choices in the UK this month though I can't say any of them leap out at me - the Legal Thriller is a possibility so I'll wait on some reviews.

Yeah, historical mysteries don't seem to figure much - and what the heck is 'Book Club Fiction'? Also, for once I'd like to read the blurb for a book where the main character doesn't encounter a situation that reminds them of some traumatic event in their past that they now must face up to.

Exactly my position. Book Club Fiction? ??? And I've totally gone off the 'traumatic past' stuff.

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