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KDP Print/New Paperback thing on KDP Dashboard (MERGED)
« on: July 28, 2016, 06:31:40 pm »
Is anyone else seeing this? It says it's in beta.

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    Re: kdp print
    « Reply #1 on: July 28, 2016, 09:14:59 pm »
    Isn't that what Create Space is?

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    Re: kdp print
    « Reply #2 on: July 28, 2016, 10:50:31 pm »
    Isn't that what Create Space is?

    I know, right? Unless they are trying to get the people that only do ebooks right now to try print as an option.

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    KDP Print/New Paperback thing on KDP Dashboard (MERGED)
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 12:10:13 pm »
    So, I'm guessing it's just a new interface for Createspace, so you can do both things in one place.  I'm suspecting it has exactly the same terms and will give exactly the same royalty: just the added convenience of being able to look in only one place for all of your sales on Amazon.  And (presumably) the slight added convenience of making it really easy for your e-books and paperbacks to link automatically.

    Anyone else dug into it farther and discovered any differences, however?  Anyone see any reason to do it, other than those possible tiny conveniences if you don't plan to sell your paperback anywhere but Amazon?

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 12:26:05 pm »
    Where on your dashboard is it?  I can't see anything on mine (except a link to CreateSpace in the footer).

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 12:32:51 pm »
    I can't see anything either.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 01:10:33 pm »
    yah neither am I...

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 01:49:17 pm »
    Any chance of a screenshot? We're not doubting you (I seem to recall someone else posting a thread about "KDP Print" recently), but would be cool to see what it looks like.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 01:50:50 pm »
    Any chance of a screenshot? We're not doubting you (I seem to recall someone else posting a thread about "KDP Print" recently), but would be cool to see what it looks like.
    For what it's worth here is the other thread (all 3 posts...)

    https://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,239548.msg3336418.html#msg3336418

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 02:39:45 pm »
    Yeah, I got nothin on mine, either. I wanna see.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 02:42:58 pm »
    Sure, I can screenshot it!







    (I edited out the sales numbers; it's not like they disappeared from the dashboard.  ;))

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 02:47:35 pm »
    If there's no real advantage over Createspace, I'm kind of wondering if they're doing this as a subtle way to:

    1) Poke people who only do e-books to start doing paperbacks, as well.
    2) Get author who might otherwise sign up for Createspace to do KDP Print instead, which presumably only distributes to Amazon, as a subtle market grab.

    I wonder?

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #12 on: August 03, 2016, 02:50:04 pm »
    Shiny!  I don't sell a lot of paperbacks, but I do love data and new ways to access it. 
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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #13 on: August 03, 2016, 02:53:21 pm »
    I don't have it yet, but I would think maybe it's a first step in integrating the two platforms?  Be nice to save a log-on to CS to see sales there.  Author Central already integrates them and the two platforms use the same log-on info so not too hard to link them, I'd think.  Be interesting to see where it goes.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 02:55:09 pm »
    Oy, here's another change, this one slightly annoying:



    The pull-down tab I'm used to saying "All Titles" is now "All formats" -- so it throws me off when I go to click to see which book just sold in the past hour.  ;)


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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #15 on: August 03, 2016, 02:58:42 pm »
    You know what I want?  I want the KDP chart to show me, when I hover over a day's sales (or free downloads), exactly which books sold and how many of that title sold that day.  That way I wouldn't have to go hunting through the pull-down folder to figure it out which books had sold that day.  (*Cough* No, I don't check my stats all day, what are you talking about?)

    That'd be awesome if Book Report could implement it.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 04:15:36 pm »
    You know what I want?  I want the KDP chart to show me, when I hover over a day's sales (or free downloads), exactly which books sold and how many of that title sold that day.  That way I wouldn't have to go hunting through the pull-down folder to figure it out which books had sold that day.  (*Cough* No, I don't check my stats all day, what are you talking about?)

    That'd be awesome if Book Report could implement it.

    Click on generate report on the bottom. When the spreadsheet comes up, click on the "orders" report. You'll see what books are selling that day. If you just go to the royalty report, the books sold won't show until the sale is complete.


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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 04:26:38 pm »
    It doesn't show on my dashboard yet - sounds like they're rolling it out slowly.

    I'm all for not having a separate login to get to CreateSpace sales reports, however, the KDP reports are already....how shall I say... user unfriendly? Cluttering the same interface with another batch of info seems less than ideal. I wish they would have first taken the time to create a reporting structure that doesn't require a dozen drop down clicks or excel downloads just to see basic sales data.

    Guess I'll keep hoping and dreaming (and using Book Report).  ::)

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 04:33:54 pm »
    You know what I want?  I want the KDP chart to show me, when I hover over a day's sales (or free downloads), exactly which books sold and how many of that title sold that day.  That way I wouldn't have to go hunting through the pull-down folder to figure it out which books had sold that day.  (*Cough* No, I don't check my stats all day, what are you talking about?)

    That'd be awesome if Book Report could implement it.


    Book Report shows all this at a glance anyway. I was going to suggest you get Book Report, and then I saw your last sentence. Now I'm puzzled.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 04:36:00 pm »
    If there's no real advantage over Createspace, I'm kind of wondering if they're doing this as a subtle way to:

    1) Poke people who only do e-books to start doing paperbacks, as well.
    2) Get author who might otherwise sign up for Createspace to do KDP Print instead, which presumably only distributes to Amazon, as a subtle market grab.

    I wonder?




    Wait, what's KDP Print?????????



    And ah, now I get it. You mean it would be nice if Book Report incorporated the paperback numbers. Gotcha.




    But what's KDP Print????  Link, please!

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 07:32:31 pm »
    As far as I can tell, it's just another interface for Createspace, interfaced with KDP.

    At least for me.  Apparently not everyone can see it.  I imagine we'll all see it eventually.

    I don't mind it per se -- I mean, it could conceivably be useful for people who use it -- but it feels like just so much extra clutter for me, because I don't think there's any reason for me to do KDP Print instead of using Createspace directly.

    It's kind of like the way the second chart with the KU pages read is sort of clutter to me, because my books are wide.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #21 on: August 04, 2016, 10:21:14 pm »





    But I want to see my paperback sales on my KDP graphs!

    And in Book Report. Someone email Book Report.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #22 on: August 04, 2016, 11:08:42 pm »
    I'm trying to work out the advantages/disadvantages of using KDP print vs Createspace.

    1) I'm assuming that both use the same Createspace back-end, so quality wise they should be the same.
    2) Createspace distribute to Japan, KDP print does not (no biggy)
    3) KDP print does not yet provide author copies (but says it will soon).
    4) Royalties? I haven't worked this out but I assume they would be much the same - this needs checking because this obviously is important
    5) Reporting - it would be nice to have reporting in one place, particularly if BookReport starts to include paperbacks.

    Anything else I'm missing?
    Anyone tried it yet?

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #23 on: August 05, 2016, 12:35:56 am »
    2) Createspace distribute to Japan, KDP print does not (no biggy)
    As far as I'm aware, select CS-printed paperbacks appear on Amazon Japan through the Expanded Distribution Channels. If the KDP Print interface with CS also includes EDC, then the distribution should be identical.

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    Re: What is with this new paperback thing on my KDP Dashboard?
    « Reply #24 on: August 05, 2016, 12:59:42 am »
    As far as I'm aware, select CS-printed paperbacks appear on Amazon Japan through the Expanded Distribution Channels. If the KDP Print interface with CS also includes EDC, then the distribution should be identical.

    Not according to the FAQ. They compare the two and specifically exclude Japan for some reason.

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