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Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
« on: March 07, 2011, 02:11:11 pm »
I just got a Google Alert that my novel was being offered for download in a bulletin board called, "Bolt"  I went to the site are found the offer of free downloads of my novel and responded with a request to the Administrators to remove the post and also left a note.  see below:

http://bolt.cd/board/showthread.php?p=2713332#post2713332

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 02:13:43 pm »
    Phil, my book was also featured there. That's what the site is for, illegal downloads, and the administrators are the ones who are running it.

    Your/everyone's best bet is to follow the link to rapidshare and send an email about the copyright abuse to them.

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    « Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 02:18:41 pm »
    Phil, my book was also featured there. That's what the site is for, illegal downloads, and the administrators are the ones who are running it.

    Your/everyone's best bet is to follow the link to rapidshare and send an email about the copyright abuse to them.

    Thanks,  Good advice.  Bolt's Forum Rules specifically prohibit copyright infringement, so I reported the post.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 07, 2011, 02:23:39 pm »
    Thanks,  Good advice.  Bolt's Forum Rules specifically prohibit copyright infringement, so I reported the post.

    I'm sure those forum rules were just a form of lip service. When I found them, they'd just moved onto the new .cd domain, which was done on purpose because it locates them in a country where they can't be prosecuted for infringements.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 02:39:50 pm »
    I'm sure those forum rules were just a form of lip service. When I found them, they'd just moved onto the new .cd domain, which was done on purpose because it locates them in a country where they can't be prosecuted for infringements.

    I followed your advice and sent an email to Rapidshare's Legal Counsel, requesting that they remove the download.

    Thank you for the heads up.

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 02:59:15 pm »
    My books started showing up on pirated lists about four months ago.

    According to Stephen King, I've now arrived and should seek an agent.

    I downloaded a couple of them and the formatting stinks. It was free and worth what I paid for it.

    I'm pretty sure nobody who steals a copy was going to actually buy it to begin with but maybe if they get frustrated with the formatting and like the book they'll buy one to read.

    Of course, anybody can download the audio version for free from iTunes already, so that's kinda lame.

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #6 on: March 07, 2011, 03:00:27 pm »
    I don't know if there is a cause and effect, but after posting the following response to the offer to download pirated copies of my book, I have been getting a sale about every five minutes or so on Amazon.

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    I am the author of Falling Star and depend on it for my livelihood. The above download, while flattering, is not authorized for distribution and your downloading it dilutes the value of twenty years of work. I request that you not download it.

    If you are interested in this thriller that has received 35 very nice reviews and the recommendation of a well-respected book critic is it currently available on Amazon Kindle for only 99 cents USD.

    You can obtain a copy at: http://www.amazon.com/Falling-Star-T.../dp/B003YCPK4C

    I am sure you understand why I needed to let you know.

    Thank you,

    Phil Chen

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 03:41:44 pm »
    I followed your advice and sent an email to Rapidshare's Legal Counsel, requesting that they remove the download.

    Thank you for the heads up.

    LOL man I wish I was a lawyer and things were that simple  :D
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    « Reply #8 on: March 07, 2011, 03:46:03 pm »
    I doubt those people have Kindles.

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    « Reply #9 on: March 07, 2011, 03:57:34 pm »
    LOL man I wish I was a lawyer and things were that simple  :D

    For something like this, I'm sure Rapidshare will dump the upload post haste, if they are legitimate.  I toyed with telling the Legal Counsel that I am an attorney, but decided against it at this time.

    My email to the Counsel:

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    Andras Bedoe
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    Dear Mr. Bedoe:

    I am the copyright owner of a novel entitled, Falling Star.  It has come to my attention that copies of Falling Star are being offered for download on your file sharing website at http://rapidshare.com/#!download|700tl3|451208818|Falling_Star.rar|1488.

    These copies have not been authorized for distribution in this manner by me or any other person affiliated with me.  Please remove Falling Star from availability for downloading on your site.

    Thank you for your consideration.

    Very truly yours,

    Philip Chen, Author

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #10 on: March 07, 2011, 03:59:48 pm »
    But how did you find out who their legal counsel was?
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    « Reply #11 on: March 07, 2011, 04:05:31 pm »
    I doubt those people have Kindles.

    The download offered it in a variety of formats, so I suspect it is a Smashwords copy.

    Incidentally, I just want everyone to know that the strategy of posting a reply to the offending post is one that I got from KindleBoards.  One of our lady authors used this same strategy and reported on it.  I apologize for not remembering her name.  I can only feign early onset of dementia. So, whoever you are, thank you!

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    « Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 04:08:21 pm »
    But how did you find out who their legal counsel was?

    I went on the Rapidshare site as suggested by ForeverJuly http://www.rapidshare.com/#!rapidshare-ag/rapidshare-ag_contact

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    « Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 04:10:02 pm »
    I went on the Rapidshare site as suggested by ForeverJuly http://www.rapidshare.com/#!rapidshare-ag/rapidshare-ag_contact

    Ah, and here I was thinking you did all this special legal stuff to find it.   :D
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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #14 on: March 07, 2011, 04:12:33 pm »
    I would assume that rapidshare/mediafire/etc all get a lot of copyright infringement emails, so I'm not surprised they list their legal council right there on the contact info. I'm a little surprised he's not available for video conferencing 24/7, though.


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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 04:15:41 pm »
    Hopefully that gets taken down and resolved quickly, Philip. Sounds like you've got it under control! :)


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    « Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 04:35:27 pm »
    Well, the upshot of all this is that the possible "guilt" buying has resulted in

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    # Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #3,724 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)

        * #78 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Mystery & Thrillers > Thrillers > Spy Stories & Tales of Intrigue
        * #85 in Books > Mystery & Thrillers > Thrillers > Spy Stories & Tales of Intrigue

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 05:55:26 pm »
    I went to the Bolt site to check whether they had taken any action on my complaint. They had.  They permanently banned me (no reason given).
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    « Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 06:02:09 pm »
    I went to the Bolt site to check whether they had taken any action on my complaint. They had.  They permanently banned me (no reason given).

    lol I'm not shocked. That's what that site's about. Facilitating an illegal download of your book wasn't the problem to them, you were.

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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 06:38:26 pm »
    I got so excited for a minute, reading the title of the thread.  "Pirates!  Yay!"  And then I realised it's the other kind.
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    « Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 07:29:57 pm »
    You should have let it ride Phillip and observed the results.

    Will sales go up? Will they go down? Will nothing happen?

    My advice to anyone who find their work on a torrent site: celebrate! Distribution, more readers!

    I put one of my titles up on a torrent site two days ago and it's already been downloaded 194 times. It has also generated 1950 links and places to find my work. My other pieces up on torrents sites have been downloaded 100,000+ times.

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    « Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 07:33:04 pm »
    I put one of my titles up on a torrent site two days ago and it's already been downloaded 194 times. It has also generated 1950 links and places to find my work. My other pieces up on torrents sites have been downloaded 100,000+ times.

    Which torrent sites are you using?
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    Re: Possible Pirate Site: Bolt.cd
    « Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 07:33:26 pm »
    I looked for mine--it wasn't there.

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    « Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 07:47:41 pm »
    Which torrent sites are you using?

    I put my work up on mininova.org

    From there it is scraped by other torrent sites within a few hours to a few days and so it spreads out to a variety of places. All downloads run off the same tracker so even if someone gets it from a different site, it still records the download.

    One title I put up has about 57,000 individual links spread around the web thanks mostly to torrents.

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    « Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 10:38:27 pm »
    I put my work up on mininova.org

    From there it is scraped by other torrent sites within a few hours to a few days and so it spreads out to a variety of places. All downloads run off the same tracker so even if someone gets it from a different site, it still records the download.

    One title I put up has about 57,000 individual links spread around the web thanks mostly to torrents.

    Cheers, I hadn't heard of mininova; looks good!
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