I am not sure if/why this is significant, but I remember reading it on another site, so I thought I'd mention it here.VondaZ said:Are you saying that it was Alleras who said, "I'm Pate," the other said, "like the pig boy."? Because if so, I read that chapter completely differently. There were four people in the room in that chapter: Sam, Walgrave, Alleras, and a pasty-faced novice. I believe it was the pasty-faced novice who identified himself as Pate, not Alleras.
Martin describes "the other man in the room" as "a pale, fleshy, pasty-faced young fellow with round shoulders, soft hands, close-set eyes, and food stains on his robes." This is not Alleras, as he writes a short space later, "Sam hesitated a moment, then told his tale again as Marwyn, Alleras, and the other novice listened."
At the end, Sam is talking to this other novice, as he is frequently described as pasty or pale, whereas Alleras never was. Moreover, Sam doesn't like him - but he clearly seemed to trust Alleras.
So, I think that this other novice is the Faceless man masquerading as Pate. Whether or not Alleras and/or Marwyn are aware it is not Pate, I don't know.
Now I will have to do a search on the name Sarella because I don't remember her at all. It seems that every little tidbit has relevance somehow but there is just so much going on that I can't remember or keep track of it all.PinkKindle said:Several times throughout the Dorne chapters, and even going back to earlier books when the Sand Snakes (Oberyn's daughters) are mentioned, it talks about one sister who is not present in Dorne because she's gone off study in to Oldtown. Now, I'm pretty sure girls can't become Maesters, so if she was studying to be a Maester, she'd have to be in disguise. The sister's name is Sarella -- which spelled backwards is Alleras.
Well, the widow's peak feature is all we need to know! I just read a Martell chapter in ADWD and we are reminded several times that the Red Viper had a pronounced widow's peak and so do a few of the Snakes.jason10mm said:The physical description is certainly suggestive. From the last chapter..."the speaker [Alleras] was a slim, slight, comely youth...skin the color of a light brown ale and a cap of tight black curls that came to a widows peak above his big black eyes."
Once again the Martells show up in odd places, as if Doran Martell is playing his own game of thrones.
It also says in the index that her mother was a trader captain from the Summer Isles, which would account for the dark skin and tight curly hair.DYB said:Well, the widow's peak feature is all we need to know! I just read a Martell chapter in ADWD and we are reminded several times that the Red Viper had a pronounced widow's peak and so do a few of the Snakes.
So now the question is: why are the Martells infiltrating the Maesters?
You think she will end up on the wall? I was thinking that Aemon said Dany needs a maester to guide her and that she might end up with her. Especially since her family seems to have connections with Dany (through Ilyrio?). Also, with Alleras seeming to be sympathetic to dragons and magic whereas the rest of the citadel seems to be in opposition to it.jason10mm said:If nothing else, we now know Jon might be getting a widowed peaked Maester for the Watch and get seduced, Ygritte style