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Lara Blunte said:
I have a story much like everyone else's. After a year I understand trends, dips, etc -- but to get something to fall precipitously when I am advertising -- AND IN AMAZON (AMS) AS WELL -- is pretty amazing.

I now sometimes have days that start at 1.05$ (when before an incredibly bad day was 10$) and STAY at 1.05$ for 24 hours. That means that out of 6 books (now 4 because I am removing them) NOT ONE READER PASSED A SINGLE PAGE ALL DAY...

Amazon says they find nothing wrong with that. It keeps happening -- today is one of those days. I've had .50c days.

BUT the worst thing I've noticed is that before when I did a promo ALL the book page counts would rise: mostly the book that was advertised, but the others as well.

The last 85$ ad I did in November gave me a paltry amount of KENP for the book advertised and ALL THE OTHER ONES FROZE. If you look at a graph of that day in terms of ranking of the books (in author central) there is a HUGE DIP, like a big V on that day for ALL books -- except the one that I advertised which rose very moderately. Not anything like promos I did before.

That is not only bucking a trend, it is REVERSING it with a vengeance...Why did those books take a particular dip that day? On the following days they all went up in the ranking to a sort of normal/low place again though I wasn't advertising anymore or doing anything...

I think that when Amazon sees page counts rising (as during a promo) they may be interpreting it as suspicious behavior and freezing the count for that day or those days.

I have been doing ads in Bub these days and I can see that people are clicking through, but I am having 1$ and 2$ day (sales and KENP combined).

The problem with all this is that it cannot be proven -- I have shown them the pages that are frozen all day, taking screen prints -- how not ONE page moved in any book. I've shown them what used to happen in promo days (rise) and what happened now (big dip). I've shown them the graph diving in spite of advertising WITH THEM as well as Bub and others.

They send me back the response that they see nothing wrong with it.

I'm taking all my books out of Select. I would say it's wise of anyone who has felt the dip to do the same. Too bad, it was really great for almost a year but either 1/ there is something wrong with their software and they won't admit it or 2/ they have change the way to count the pages and the new system is crazy and obviously not worth us being exclusive or 3/ they are trying out some new crazy software on some guinea pigs and it's working VERY badly, everyone is losing pages, and they can't admit that either or everyone would be clamoring at their door.

They do admit that they make "trials" of new things (like the new dashboard) by segments of authors, which is fine -- except when it involves our money.

If there is never an admission from Amazon that something was off, but it has been fixed -- and we are paid the pages that were lost when the system wasn't working -- I think it's madness to stay.

Maybe they want a lot of us out. Who knows?

I have a Bub coming up and am sorry that all my books aren't out yet. I can just see the KENP pages dipping those days and them saying everything is fine when I did a Bub 3 months ago and KENP was amazing...

Also, doing free days is no longer working there. I had 5000 downloads in 2 days and when it reverted to paid I was at the same place or worse in the ranking.

And, also, I do a search for my books and there they are in a vertical row and beneath them as a SPONSORED product a cover with red satin and something like The Duke and the Maid, a naughty Victorian novel about how...the Duke likes to spank the maid...Don't all of you run to buy it...

It gave me a laugh, but darn, I did pay to promote my books for a year, they aren't salacious at all cause I'm too lazy to describe all that, and someone paid to encroach on the search of my name with the continuing saga of Kiki the spanked maid.

I wonder if Kiki and the Duke do well in KENP...
I hate when I see sponsored ads on my book page. You work hard to get readers to your book and then Amazon says, "Wait, before you buy that book, you might prefer this one instead. It drives me nuts.
 
RubyMadden said:
I agree with Kelli completely.

General Remarks: It's been deteriorating all year long. Whereas $100-500 in 3rd party ad promos would get a decent to good return once upon a time, now $1000 in ad promo *might* get a decent return. This is the first time I haven't seen an ROI. And this is despite my NL growing by thousands as well as follows & likes for all social media. As is, I have no plans to put any more $ into ad promos for 2017. And to be competitive on FACEBOOK ADS, you need literally $3-5K to make a dent to get into the upper Top 500 for the entire store. Only then, if you can sustain that type of ad budget, will you stay in the Top 1000.
I think these days you need the support of a good base of fellow authors, the reach they have is better than money any day. They help and support each other, with mail swaps, giveaways, list building, and help make you a success. Outside of that support system, things get tougher.
Something money spent on ads will never replace. Of course, box sets are also good for visibility, and for authors to again work together. Unfortunately, you might find getting in a box set difficult given the climate now, after certain organizers have spoiled things with their selfish behaviour.

For Facebook ads, you do need a good chunk of money to splash on them. But once the money is gone, and if your ROI isn't good, you are back to square one. It's very true, that money isn't everything. Which is where the author support group wins every time, because, on the whole, other authors are very generous, giving with their time, their trust and expertise. We work better as a group. Several other authors mailing lists at the beginning of a launch are golden, much better than risking money on untested new ads.

So my advice would be to never harm your reputation, and nurture your relationships with others in your genre. Those relationships are golden.
 
We are having a similar problem with the roll out of a new billing system for our electricity accounts. One pensioner who normally pays R1500 was charged R9000 - and the municipality claim "there is nothing wrong with the new system." Numerous irate letters to the newspaper all elicit the 'nothing wrong' response.
I've just had a bill for R0.00 for the current month's charges, which makes me nervous that next month there will be a double charge  ::). 
 
katrina46 said:
I hate when I see sponsored ads on my book page. You work hard to get readers to your book and then Amazon says, "Wait, before you buy that book, you might prefer this one instead. It drives me nuts.
I believe this is the future. They want to earn money from those ads, they've seen how FB ads have contributed to some author's careers and want a slice of it. Soon it will be who is the best marketer, not the best writer. Good books will always have a chance to shine.... If you can find them.
 
SpringFever said:
I believe this is the future. They want to earn money from those ads, they've seen how FB ads have contributed to some author's careers and want a slice of it. Soon it will be who is the best marketer, not the best writer. Good books will always have a chance to shine.... If you can find them.
I think it's always been the best marketed book rather than the best writer that gets into the bestseller list. Trad publishers like writers who are also entertaining speakers and will travel the country (or world) speaking at book launches. This is the way they sell books and generate interest. One publisher confessed that they had some writers who they wouldn't let near the book-buying public :p
 
SpringFever said:
RubyMadden said:
I agree with Kelli completely.

General Remarks: It's been deteriorating all year long. Whereas $100-500 in 3rd party ad promos would get a decent to good return once upon a time, now $1000 in ad promo *might* get a decent return. This is the first time I haven't seen an ROI. And this is despite my NL growing by thousands as well as follows & likes for all social media. As is, I have no plans to put any more $ into ad promos for 2017. And to be competitive on FACEBOOK ADS, you need literally $3-5K to make a dent to get into the upper Top 500 for the entire store. Only then, if you can sustain that type of ad budget, will you stay in the Top 1000.
I think these days you need the support of a good base of fellow authors, the reach they have is better than money any day. They help and support each other, with mail swaps, giveaways, list building, and help make you a success. Outside of that support system, things get tougher.
Something money spent on ads will never replace. Of course, box sets are also good for visibility, and for authors to again work together. Unfortunately, you might find getting in a box set difficult given the climate now, after certain organizers have spoiled things with their selfish behaviour.

For Facebook ads, you do need a good chunk of money to splash on them. But once the money is gone, and if your ROI isn't good, you are back to square one. It's very true, that money isn't everything. Which is where the author support group wins every time, because, on the whole, other authors are very generous, giving with their time, their trust and expertise. We work better as a group. Several other authors mailing lists at the beginning of a launch are golden, much better than risking money on untested new ads.

So my advice would be to never harm your reputation, and nurture your relationships with others in your genre. Those relationships are golden.
Very true. There are always blips in the industry, but professional connections are invaluable. So is trust. Not everyone has a Dory-like memory.

There's a thread about the recent boxed set scams here: http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,243297.25.html. It's good to stay educated. Unscrupulous people are everywhere.
 
I unchecked all the boxes. As soon as I get through this new release, will set up to go wide on Dec. 26. Most of my books were originally published through Smashwords as well as Amazon, so all I have to do is upload the current versions (front and back matter changes) and hit 'publish'. Six total page reads over seven books since Dec. 5. What ever the reason is for the drop off, I could have sold one 99 cent book at another retailer and equaled my KU earnings. I'll swallow exclusivity if it pays, but not when it doesn't.
 
brkingsolver said:
I unchecked all the boxes. As soon as I get through this new release, will set up to go wide on Dec. 26. Most of my books were originally published through Smashwords as well as Amazon, so all I have to do is upload the current versions (front and back matter changes) and hit 'publish'. Six total page reads over seven books since Dec. 5. What ever the reason is for the drop off, I could have sold one 99 cent book at another retailer and equaled my KU earnings. I'll swallow exclusivity if it pays, but not when it doesn't.
Yup. Doing a slow burn myself. I'm running a Bargain Booksy for a couple of days, and I've seen some sales and some rating bumps that can't be explained by sales (and are thus borrows). Number of pages read so far? ZERO. As stated before, I've unchecked all my titles from auto-renewal.

The big Q, as it has been, is why are some authors "golden" and not seeing this? I've postulated the A/B categorization of works, marking them to use either the old or new method of counting pages, as have others. But this stuff has been going on for SO LONG, testing time should be over and everyone in KU should by now be seeing the same activity.

KU seems to have become FU. :(

Edit: After much thought, about the only real-world explanations I can come up with for why Amazon hasn't just fallen back to the previous release of Kindle software are these:
1) They outsourced the Kindle development, to some independent company, maybe in India, and don't actually have the source code, and Amazon has failed to renew the maintenance contract ...
2) The last update was done in such a way that someone REALLY messed up and killed the ability to fall back. If so, that is a DP/IT error that not only demands a termination, but also a mob hit. Seriously.

Grrrrrr......
 
Joseph M. Erhardt said:
The big Q, as it has been, is why are some authors "golden" and not seeing this?
Yes, indeed. And another aspect that interests me: why are some authors affected across the board, whereas others are only hit with specific books?

Edit: After much thought, about the only real-world explanation I can come up with for why Amazon hasn't just fallen back to the previous release of Kindle software is this:
Your explanation assumes that this is a glitch/bug/programming error. There is also the possibility that the changes are working exactly as Amazon intended, or, more realistically, that it's 90% of the way there, but they're happy to accept some collateral damage to achieve... well, whatever it is they're trying to achieve.
 
PaulineMRoss said:
Yes, indeed. And another aspect that interests me: why are some authors affected across the board, whereas others are only hit with specific books?
Introducing Page Flip for Kindle
June 28, 2016 12:47 PM
We wanted you to know about a great new Kindle feature we think readers will love.

Page Flip is a re-imagined Kindle navigation experience that makes it easy to explore books while always saving your place. With Page Flip, readers can easily flip back and forth between pages to reference different parts of the book while they read.

Page Flip automatically saves the page you're reading in a book, pinning it to the side of your screen for easy navigation. Flip back and forth in a book with confidence, knowing you can instantly jump back to reading with a simple tap of your pinned page.

Zoom out to get a bird's eye view of the book and quickly find what you're looking for. At a glance, easily recognize specific pages as you jump around. Pictures, charts, your highlights, and the layout of each page are easy to see with Page Flip's pixel-accurate thumbnails that automatically adjust as you change your font and margin settings.

"As an author, I love knowing that my work is presented with fluid clarity, freeing my readers from the page shuffling that can cloud and spoil the narrative," said Laura Hillenbrand, best-selling author of Unbroken. "With Page Flip, books become vastly more accessible, navigable, interactive, and enthralling."

Page Flip works with Kindle books that have Enhanced Typesetting enabled. The feature will be delivered as part of a free, over-the-air update starting June 28 to Kindle E-readers and the free Kindle app for iOS, Android, and Fire OS.

Click here for additional details and to see Page Flip in action.

I wonder what her page reads are like ::)
 
Jan Hurst-Nicholson said:
Introducing Page Flip for Kindle

"As an author, I love knowing that my work is presented with fluid clarity, freeing my readers from the page shuffling that can cloud and spoil the narrative," said Laura Hillenbrand, best-selling author of Unbroken. "With Page Flip, books become vastly more accessible, navigable, interactive, and enthralling."

I wonder what her page reads are like ::)
As a best-selling author, I'm sure she got a separate deal and may even get the assumption of full reads for every copy of her books borrowed. Assuming she's in KU to begin with.
And, she's not, as far as I can tell. At least not with her two biggies.
 
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PaulineMRoss said:
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Your explanation assumes that this is a glitch/bug/programming error. There is also the possibility that the changes are working exactly as Amazon intended, or, more realistically, that it's 90% of the way there, but they're happy to accept some collateral damage to achieve... well, whatever it is they're trying to achieve.
This^^^
 
Joseph M. Erhardt said:
That would still mean that it's crappy systems analysis or crappy programming. :)

But I understand what you're trying to say.
Or a specific set of criteria established by management. Perhaps the IT team just built the system to specs. The problem might be with the specs and not with the code.

I personally believe this is the case. The KU software is performing exactly as Amazon wants it to.
 
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