"Karma is a Witch, but only if you are." (I clean app'd it for you). I much prefer, "Karma is a Smurf, but only if you are."Kenneth Rosenberg said:Here's hoping AS is shut down, or at least massively crippled by these lawsuits. They're taking the dreams of aspiring authors and using them to just squeeze as much money out of them as they can, crushing both the authors' dreams and their finances at the same time. Really wretched...
But if you make it you make it big. I know authors who earn $10 000 - $100 000 per month. No editor or designer can ever make that, simply because it takes hours of work to do these services, and we get paid a one-time payment. Plus the market is competitive...I think most cover designers consider it lucky if they make $500 - $1000 a month. So don't make it sound like they are "taking advantage of the gold rush." It is simply not true. I think most designers end up working for less than minimum wages - less than $10 per hour - if you calculate the time spent on one cover. Only a few very famous designer sites make more than that.drno said:But I think we have the same thing going on with indies and this whole industry of editors, covers and promo websites. How many indies have spent so much on these things that their books are under water and might be for years to come? It's the old gold rush axiom; no miner made money except the shopkeepers selling to them.
Yeah, but it is profit, while writers go into debt and have to try to dig themselves out of the hole. Most writers will never make their cover and edit money back.Melody Simmons said:I think most designers end up working for less than minimum wages - less than $10 per hour - if you calculate the time spent on one cover.
That is what I exactly do not. I don't want indies to begin a book's life in debt. You are talking about writers who know what they are doing and know they will make their money back. I'm talking about the newbies and those who think using expensive editing, 600 bucks covers (outrageous!!!!) and promo websites will magically make their books sell. Most books don't sell. The best thing I ever did and which made me most money was learning to make my own covers, editing my own books and stop wasting money on promo websites. If I had to share the money my books make individually with an editor, cover artist and a promo website, I'd be still in debt for each and every book. Now I pay my rent with the money that comes in.ireaderreview said:If you find someone good talk about them with others, actively.
Book cover designers offer a service. What happens after the cover becomes the property of the owner (author) is the owner'responsibility. Writing is a business and risk is an important element of any business venture.drno said:Yeah, but it is profit, while writers go into debt and have to try to dig themselves out of the hole. Most writers will never make their cover and edit money back.