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Trophywife007 said:
Maybe the sources I've seen over the years are incorrect. Here's a link to an example:

https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/british-versus-american-style.html

It's just something I found interesting.
Yes, interesting!

The quote within a quote thing is so complicated I've no idea how I would do it - single or double etc - but I normally would put a full stop at the end, rather than before a quote, single or double. I was taught to put a full stop after Mr. or Mrs. though I often don't and I think I'm just as likely to use a colon as a full stop for times. I had no idea that one was considered correct and the other not.

To be honest, I think that the world has changed a lot in recent years, particularly because of the internet with people from all parts of the world taking part in online conversations - just as we are - that all but the most pedantic of grammar fiends probably use a mixture of rules from all over. I tend to just use what looks right to me, mostly out of habit, regardless of whether it's technically correct in the UK or not.
 

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I think there's a lot of crossover nowadays between British and American punctuation standards. For me, the thing is to be consistent.

I've seen a lot of older books published in the UK where there is NEVER a period (full stop) after Mr or Mrs whereas it's pretty much always been the norm in the US. But maybe that's different now? I've not really noticed it in newer books, I admit.

As to quotation marks, the rule in US is ALWAYS put the punctuation (. , ; ?) inside the closing quotes. But, again, in British usage, I've often seen the quotation marks on the inside, depending on the circumstances. Not so much in dialog, but when using quotes for emphasis, or when using quotes to refer to the title of something.

So, when it's dialog, like

She said, "Go to the store."

it makes perfect sense to put the period inside because it's actually the ending of the quoted sentence. And, of course, a second period outside the " would be really silly. :D

But in a sentence like this:

The book was called "My Trip to the Store".

I think having the period on the outside makes more sense. The title isn't "My Trip to the Store." but, rather "My Trip to the Store" so the "." is not part of it.

US English teachers I've known would have one do it like this

The book was called "My Trip to the Store."

I've never thought this made sense in US usage.
 

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I think those two examples clear up the inconsistencies that Trophywife may have seen.

I would have to agree with Ann that in the second example the full stop should be on the outside of the quotes. I didn't realise that in the US you were taught differently. I would say that I think we might put the book title in single quotes. (But don't quote me on that!)

And to further add to that, the quote in a quote would be therefore be:-

She said, "I think the book is called 'My Trip To The Store'."

Anyhow, to get back on topic  :eek:  ;D I have now read St Cyr book 4 - the last of the cheap ones I was able to get of the early books in the series. I now have to pay full price until I get to about book 12 when I have another few books bought at bargain prices. Unless Amazon takes pity on me and reduces some of the others. Pretty please, oh mighty 'Zon. *bats eyelashes*.  ;D
 

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Ann explained it beautifully and, yes, that is what I was thinking.  Thank you.

Linjeakel, I wish I could sign you up at my overdrive library as all the St.Cyr books are available there.  With all the books we have available on OverDrive, it has cut way down on my Amazon bill.
 

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Well, I think we are all in agreement regarding " and ' and . ;D  (Except I desperately want to put another "." at the end of that last sentence, but it just seems wrong.) ???

As to libraries .... I am sorry, Linda, that yours doesn't carry the St. Cyr books. :( Like Tw007, I've borrowed all of them from my library.
 

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I show book 12 of the St Cyr mysteries (Where the Dead Lie) on sale for $1.99.
I wish they were lendable - I have all of them I think and I'd be willing to share...
 

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Andra said:
I show book 12 of the St Cyr mysteries (Where the Dead Lie) on sale for $1.99.
I wish they were lendable - I have all of them I think and I'd be willing to share...
Either she is putting that one on sale regularly or it is sort of permanently marked down to that price. I bought it for $1.99 in January of this year. I now have books 1, 2, 3, 10, and 12 in my Kindle library and hope to fill in some of the gaps between 3 and 10! I'm okay with paying $7.99 for those books when I get there, but for some reason that one dollar difference at $8.99 irritates me and so I haven't gone past reading Book 3. They are not available at my library.
 

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I got most of my St Cyr books for what I consider a "reasonable" price.  Looks like $7.99 for seven of them, $8.99 for one, $11.68 for the one released in April, and then $5 and under for the rest.
But I cherry-picked them for quite a while before filling in most of them last year.
 

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Crosspost (warning: Enabling in progress)

I found a new series that I think y'all will enjoy.

It's The Ravenwood Mysteries by Sabrina Flynn. I think it first came across my radar via a Facebook ad. I borrowed the first one through Prime reading back in May and read it yesterday. Definitely a find. As far as I can tell, they're all in KU.

The series is set in San Francisco around the turn of the 20th century; here's a link to my review on GoodReads:

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/3532857781

And a link to the book on Amazon:
 

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I went back quite a few pages in this thread trying to find a reference about Elizabeth Bailey's "Lady Fan" historical mysteries. I didn't find anything, but can't imagine how else I would have found them - maybe checking also-boughts for books we have talked about.

Anyway, I have been binge reading through this now 6-book series and thoroughly enjoying them. Inexpensive if purchasing, available in KU if you are a subscriber. This is Book 1:

 

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Thanks, Crebel.  I've been looking for something and this looks like it will fit the bill.

... I'm in chapter 3 and enjoying very much.  Thank you for this!

Thanks to Ann in Arlington, too; I picked that one up also but just was drawn to Crebel's rec. first.
 

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I think the Lady Fan books were mentioned somewhere in here because I started reading them a while back.  I really enjoyed them - especially the KU part :)
 

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Trophywife007 said:
Thanks, Crebel. I've been looking for something and this looks like it will fit the bill.

... I'm in chapter 3 and enjoying very much. Thank you for this!

Thanks to Ann in Arlington, too; I picked that one up also but just was drawn to Crebel's rec. first.
Andra said:
I think the Lady Fan books were mentioned somewhere in here because I started reading them a while back. I really enjoyed them - especially the KU part :)
Did the 2 of you keep reading these? I really have liked them, but have to say she continually, in every book, uses the phrase about someone getting "their just desserts" only it's always "just deserts". It throws me every time. Is there ever case where desert instead of dessert is correct??

I know we had a discussion one time about "to the manner/manor born" and both were correct, but I can't get past this one as anything but a consistently wrong spelling error. ::)
 

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Anyone here read the Inspector Sam Blackstone mysteries? They're set in the late Victorian era, mostly in London, but in other parts of the world too and pretty good.

It's a ten book series and I've read the first six and enjoyed them. Then I went to get #7. Up to now they've been available in KU, but I've just discovered that the final four in the series have been released by a different publisher and not only are they not in KU, but the purchase price is more than three times the price of the earlier books. :eek: :mad:

I'm really frustrated (actually more than frustrated but KB won't let me use that word!). I want to read the rest of the series but I somehow feel more cheated by this than if I'd had to buy them from the start. At least then I could have made the decision not to begin and not get invested. /rant
 

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Did the 2 of you keep reading these? I really have liked them, but have to say she continually, in every book, uses the phrase about someone getting "their just desserts" only it's always "just deserts". It throws me every time. Is there ever case where desert instead of dessert is correct??

I know we had a discussion one time about "to the manner/manor born" and both were correct, but I can't get past this one as anything but a consistently wrong spelling error. ::)
I've just started the 3rd one and am really enjoying the series. I've never thought of the deserts vs. desserts so I Googled it and you are correct, of course. How interesting that the phrase predates "desserts!" So, now I can be bothered by it as well. :eek:
 

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Linjeakel said:
Anyone here read the Inspector Sam Blackstone mysteries? They're set in the late Victorian era, mostly in London, but in other parts of the world too and pretty good.

It's a ten book series and I've read the first six and enjoyed them. Then I went to get #7. Up to now they've been available in KU, but I've just discovered that the final four in the series have been released by a different publisher and not only are they not in KU, but the purchase price is more than three times the price of the earlier books. :eek: :mad:

I'm really frustrated (actually more than frustrated but KB won't let me use that word!). I want to read the rest of the series but I somehow feel more cheated by this than if I'd had to buy them from the start. At least then I could have made the decision not to begin and not get invested. /rant
I'm so sorry to read about your situation; frustrating indeed! We can only hope that the change in publisher/rise in prices means that the author is getting paid more for her work. I looked Sally Spencer up on OverDrive and only the last installment in that series is available and of course that doesn't help you at all. Meanwhile I appreciate the recommendation and intend to check out your Inspector Blackstone. Thank you!
 

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Linjeakel said:
Anyone here read the Inspector Sam Blackstone mysteries? They're set in the late Victorian era, mostly in London, but in other parts of the world too and pretty good.
Apparently I purchased the first one almost 5 years ago .... still in the TBR queue. ::)
 

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And now for my 3rd post in a row, which is a record for me, I've just notice new installments for two series I am reading: Lady Sherlock #5, Murder on Cold Street by Sherry Thomas and Verity Kent #4, A Pretty Deceit by Anna Lee Huber. Apologies: linkmaker could not find them but they are available on my OverDrive and hopefully yours, as well, since they are quite pricey.
 
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