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Approaches from publishers - how to tell the genuine ones

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I guess I'm showing my ignorance by asking this - but is there a good way of filtering out scammers from the approaches you get about publishing your books ?

I've had a few now and the latest just arrived via GoodReads. Without identifying the company involved (just in case I'm misjudging them) the message starts with:

"I am contacting you in response to seeing your latest book, Patrick's Journey, on Goodreads. In a nutshell, I work for a proper publisher - somebody who has sold over 1.5 million books in 30 countries and 16 languages over the past decade...."

The pitch goes on to claim that they would like to review my book (free of charge) and, if it fits their criteria, they would publish it.

I'm assuming the criteria would be that I pay whatever fees they want to charge for a "professionally designed paperback cover", etc.

Do genuine offers every involve payment of fees by the author, or is it safe to assume that as soon as an approach talks about the author paying then its time to hit the delete button ?
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I think you're looking at it the right way.

In the years I've been doing this, I've been approached countless times. I classify these folks into one of three categories:

1. Out and out rip off: These are the firms that want you to pay for formatting, a garage full of pre-printed books, and who knows what else. Many of these "companies" are from countries like China or India, and offer to translate and pay you a tiny percentage of sales in their native lands.
2. Legit, but not for me: Seem to be a real business, but operate on the margins of the book selling world. They can be wholesalers, tiny publishing houses, agents with more promise than delivery... the list could go on.
3. A fit partner: We have a few, mostly wholesalers, who we do business with on a regular basis and everybody wins.

When we are approached, I want to know two basic questions:

1. How do they make their money? If it's from me writing a check, then no thank you. If it's from them doing work to promote, sell, deliver, or add value to my product (books), they let's continue the conversation.

2. Can we both win with whatever model is being pitched?

In the example the OP cited, I would at least have a phone call with them. Talk is cheap. In the vast majority of cases, you'll know within 10 minutes if it's a business deal you're interested in.

I've never written anybody a check to do anything with a finished book. Zero. Zip. Nadda.
But that doesn't mean legit ideas, business models, and folks with energy to make a buck aren't out there. Listen with a skeptic's ear, but don't pass over a positive potential just because they don't have a NYC address.
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Bingo - from my brief dip into the publishing industry, the author should not be paying anything.

The details of the actual terms of the contract would be important too, ofc - who owns which rights, how much of a percentage do they take, how wide do they distribute etc.

Also, any thoughts on why they'd be getting in touch with you without even having read your book?  Seems a bit suspect too...

If in doubt, don't pay money, get a pro to look over any contracts before signing.

Good luck!
HobieYak said:
is it safe to assume that as soon as an approach talks about the author paying then its time to hit the delete button ?
Yes, that exactly.
A wise member here once said that if someone contacts you to sell you something, it's unlikely to be something you want.
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HobieYak said:

"I am contacting you in response to seeing your latest book, Patrick's Journey, on Goodreads. In a nutshell, I work for a proper publisher - somebody who has sold over 1.5 million books in 30 countries and 16 languages over the past decade...."


I generally twitch when I read phrases like "proper" or "traditional" or "royalty-paying" publisher as part of a sales pitch, because I don't know any small press publishers that uses these terms when referring to themselves. It would sort of be like a headhunter calling me out of the blue and saying "I represent a real employer who pays actual wages." You know, if someone feels it necessary to say that, something is just off. Because legitimate companies don't use that sort of phrasing. Because it is just assumed legitimate companies would actually pay wages.

REAL PUBLISHERS never ask for money from the author. Never. If they ask for money, it is a subsidy publisher and you should run. The true "traditional" publisher/author arrangement is publisher agrees to publish work. Publisher gives author an advance. Publisher pays 100% of all expenses for production of the book. Publisher handles all distribution for the book. Publisher handles all marketing for the book (though may ask author to help through being available for interviews, book signings, etc). Publisher sells books and then pays author royalty. THAT is what "traditional" publishing is. Anything else is a non-starter.
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If it starts out, for the low price of $365 we will review edit and publish your "already published" book, delete immediately.
Thanks everyone for your responses - I was pretty sure that this was not a genuine offer, but its really good to be able to come on here and get confirmation ;D

The whole sales pitch didn't ring right - e.g. "For the price of a professionally designed paperback cover (yes, there is a once only fee, because publishing is a business like any other), his Australian authors have turned their backs on what other indie authors, vanity publishers and Amazon gurus have told them, and they have listened to somebody with publishing experience and proven success. Their books are now being sold internationally, and the days of being a slave to social media, reviewers and individual sales are over for them."

I'm almost tempted to reply ;) just to see what they come up with next - but I'm probably better off spending time on my next book.
Thanks again :)
I wouldn't even bother paying attention unless I recognized the publishing company's name.
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HobieYak said:
Thanks everyone for your responses - I was pretty sure that this was not a genuine offer, but its really good to be able to come on here and get confirmation ;D

The whole sales pitch didn't ring right - e.g. "For the price of a professionally designed paperback cover (yes, there is a once only fee, because publishing is a business like any other), his Australian authors have turned their backs on what other indie authors, vanity publishers and Amazon gurus have told them, and they have listened to somebody with publishing experience and proven success. Their books are now being sold internationally, and the days of being a slave to social media, reviewers and individual sales are over for them."

I'm almost tempted to reply ;) just to see what they come up with next - but I'm probably better off spending time on my next book.
Thanks again :)
Just email them a link to this thread...
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